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The result of the move request was: no consensus to retain the new title, and no consensus for any particular title proposed here; thus, reverting to the old title ( Danish Protest Pig), which was the last stable title. If a different title is still desired, please reinitiate discussion. The other articles mentioned here were not part of this move request, so no action taken there. Dekimasu よ! 02:02, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Danish Protest pig → Danish Protest Pig – The article was moved without discussion to its present title. On Talk:Teeswater sheep#Requested move 25 August 2014 it was requested to examine some on a case by case basis. The Danish Protest Pig is one of them. Within the article there is no Engish source for "Danish Potest pig". "Danish Protest Pig" is a literal translation of a nickname ("Protestschwein") of the breed Rotbuntes Husumer (ref.: FAO). PigeonIP ( talk) 12:38, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
-- PigeonIP ( talk) 12:38, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Oppose the others, which were not properly included in the RM anyway: Philippine Native Chicken, Swabian-Hall Swine, Arapawa pig, Forest Mountain pig. At least one of these (the last) could be affected by another RM, Talk:Asturian Mountain#Requested move. The species in these should not, per MOS:CAPS & WP:NCCAPS, be capitalized unless reliable sources demonstrate that the species is universally included as part of the formal breed name. Half the disputation going on in these RMs is apoplexy about the very idea of including the species name even uncapitalized with the breed name at all, much less capitalizing it as such; doing so is, ergo, highly controversial and requires unusually reliable sources, e.g. a preponderance of breed registries and the like (not just people's blogs) all capitalizing them this way, in running prose (many of the searches above are netting capitalized examples from headings, where most sources use title case and would capitalize it no matter what in that special context, and they don't seem to reflect cases of usage without the species name included). These others needs to be individually discussed and sourced in their own RMs. It's fairly likely that Forest Mountain Pig and Swabian-Hall Swine are correct, Philippine Native Chicken seems less likely. Arapawa pig isn't a breed at all, it's a landrace, and can't be Arapawa Pig, per MOS:LIFE. (While four piglets have been bred in captivity, there's no source for recognition as an established, standardized breed anywhere.) — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 13:36, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
I applaud the efforts of PigeonIP to sort out the confusion here; actually I applaud any similar efforts by SMcCandlish if he'd only stop pushing a particular pre-determined point of view (as I think he has for a moment actually done here). Some points:
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The result of the move request was: no consensus to retain the new title, and no consensus for any particular title proposed here; thus, reverting to the old title ( Danish Protest Pig), which was the last stable title. If a different title is still desired, please reinitiate discussion. The other articles mentioned here were not part of this move request, so no action taken there. Dekimasu よ! 02:02, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Danish Protest pig → Danish Protest Pig – The article was moved without discussion to its present title. On Talk:Teeswater sheep#Requested move 25 August 2014 it was requested to examine some on a case by case basis. The Danish Protest Pig is one of them. Within the article there is no Engish source for "Danish Potest pig". "Danish Protest Pig" is a literal translation of a nickname ("Protestschwein") of the breed Rotbuntes Husumer (ref.: FAO). PigeonIP ( talk) 12:38, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
-- PigeonIP ( talk) 12:38, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Oppose the others, which were not properly included in the RM anyway: Philippine Native Chicken, Swabian-Hall Swine, Arapawa pig, Forest Mountain pig. At least one of these (the last) could be affected by another RM, Talk:Asturian Mountain#Requested move. The species in these should not, per MOS:CAPS & WP:NCCAPS, be capitalized unless reliable sources demonstrate that the species is universally included as part of the formal breed name. Half the disputation going on in these RMs is apoplexy about the very idea of including the species name even uncapitalized with the breed name at all, much less capitalizing it as such; doing so is, ergo, highly controversial and requires unusually reliable sources, e.g. a preponderance of breed registries and the like (not just people's blogs) all capitalizing them this way, in running prose (many of the searches above are netting capitalized examples from headings, where most sources use title case and would capitalize it no matter what in that special context, and they don't seem to reflect cases of usage without the species name included). These others needs to be individually discussed and sourced in their own RMs. It's fairly likely that Forest Mountain Pig and Swabian-Hall Swine are correct, Philippine Native Chicken seems less likely. Arapawa pig isn't a breed at all, it's a landrace, and can't be Arapawa Pig, per MOS:LIFE. (While four piglets have been bred in captivity, there's no source for recognition as an established, standardized breed anywhere.) — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 13:36, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
I applaud the efforts of PigeonIP to sort out the confusion here; actually I applaud any similar efforts by SMcCandlish if he'd only stop pushing a particular pre-determined point of view (as I think he has for a moment actually done here). Some points:
The WikiProject classification for
Danish Protest Pig was Start-class
. It has been reclassified as Stub-class
per request. ~
Tom.Reding (
talk ⋅
dgaf) 16:10, 13 July 2016 (UTC)