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typing from an iPhone sorry if this comes out messy, however the Houston Chronicle just released an article about preparations. I can't provide the link because my phone is lame but it talks about Tex. Gov Perry declaring states of emergency for 19 counties and other very wiki information. Keep up the good work ... Altarboy420 ( talk) 02:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC) ... http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/7085151.html Altarboy420 ( talk) 03:08, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
A Mexican Weather Station picked up a pressure reading of ~992mb while Alex made landfall, see this link, should this be mentioned in the article? - Marcusmax( speak) 01:59, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
According to the current track data Alex made a direct hit on the island chain of Cayos Arcas today, it appears the Center of Circulation passed within about two miles of the island chain located at 20.21'N 91.98'W per this. I naddition per the 4:00 CDT advisory (Advisory 13) a Mexican Naval station on the island reported a pressure of 992mb. Should this data be added to the article, or the tohe table on the season page? - Marcusmax( speak) 21:52, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Currently, this is mentioned in both the Preparations and Impact sections. The mentions should be consolidated, into either section. Or, would having a section dedicated to potential impact on the oil spill be necessary? Nickm93 ( talk) 22:36, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Being the first TS of the season, it does alert people to the potential threat that could face the oil spill and operations there. However, the storm itself has stayed well away from the site. For that reason, I agree it should only have minimal mention here. Nickm93 ( talk) 22:44, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Should we take note of the size of the storm in the article, or should we wait until after the season ends to do so? The storm is, I would estimate, about 25 degrees wide in latitude and longitude including its outer bands. It already fills up almost the entire Gulf of Mexico. This is likely the result of Alex being the merger of an ICTZ wave and another wave, developing into a storm similar in style to a West Pacific typhoon. Also, Hurricane Darby started weakening when Alex developed into a depression, when it was already large enough to have an effect on the much stronger hurricane. Alex eventually reduced Darby to a depression and absorbed it. Should we mention this as well, and the fact that some spiral bands extend to the East Pacific? Thanks. ~ A H 1( T C U) 23:20, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
The lead mentions Alex becoming a hurricane early on June 30. While this is true for UTC, shouldn't we use the date for CDT (where the hurricane is)? Nickm93 ( talk) 03:00, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
The Houston Chronicle seems to be doing the best job on covering the current conditions of Hurricane Alex. They have been rather detailed about sandbag issuance and some mandatory evacuations on South Padre Island that are not mentioned in the article. Just thought it might be helpful. Also the 1995 season saw 19 named storms and 11 hurricanes, an incredibly active season. Should that be mentioned in the article? Altarboy420 ( talk) 04:35, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Alex is the first June hurricane since Allison in 1995, but it is also the strongest one since Audrey, the strongest ever, formed in 1957. Should this also be mentioned in the main article? 98.206.70.2 ( talk) 19:50, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Also, on Alex's peak, it became the strongest non-major hurricane in the Atlantic, 105 mph and 947 mbars. I think this should be mentioned too. 98.206.70.2 ( talk) 02:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
It looks like it'll make a landfall in June CDT, but in Greenwich time (UTC), it will be the morning of July 1st. How do you determine dates for landfall? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.234.100.114 ( talk)
So, if we were to say that this was the strongest June hurricane to make landfall since so and so, we'd be wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.234.100.114 ( talk) 21:45, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Officially, Alex made landfall at around 0200 UTC on July 1, so I suggest we avoid any June-landfall records. Juliancolton ( talk) 03:18, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
There is a well defined eye as of now, and I believe that it should be shown, as the picture now is messy and Tropical Storm-ish. Old Al ( Talk) 00:58, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
I have a 3D image that I composed myself, where should I put it in the article? Syntheticalconnections ( talk)( my contribs) 04:24, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
[ [1]] is the image that I was talking about, but should it be for a landfall image in the page, the main image now, or the main image later? Old Al ( Talk) 04:27, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
The Beeb says 12 deaths; has anyone found what the breakdown was? Titoxd( ?!? - cool stuff) 09:10, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Can someone provide an inline citation for the death toll so this can get onto ITN? Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:16, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Hurricane Alex underwent an eyewall replacement cycle, normally occurring only in major hurricanes, while it was a category one and had the pressure of a category three. However, after completing this cycle, Alex began to go through a reverse eyewall replacement cycle by building new inner eyewalls that replaced its outer eyewall. I have a source, but it's Jeff Masters' blog so I'm not sure if it's reliable enough for this info. Thanks. ~ A H 1( T C U) 22:15, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm grabbing the rainfall data from southern Mexico (in the last few days I can) from the SMN/CONAGUA website, and I'm finding some monumental totals in an area between 16 and 18.5 north latitude, and 98 and 100 degrees longitude, in the range of 40 and 110 inches (1-2.7 meters). Can someone with better knowledge of Spanish check out if there were numerous landslides in that state, or if these kinds of totals are substantiated elsewhere within their website? If this is true, the rains that fell in this state from Alex are nearly equal (in a 24 hour period) to the Wilma rainfall amounts in the Yucatan, and that Alex would have produced more rain than any other known tropical cyclone in Mexico. Thanks for whatever additional info you all can find. Thegreatdr ( talk) 19:28, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
“ | También en los estados sureños de Oaxaca y Guerrero se evacuó a cientos de personas por las inundaciones, pero el especialista en huracanes Eric Blake dijo que esas lluvias estaban indirectamente relacionadas con Alex y que posiblemente eran efectos residuales del huracán Darby, el cual se disipó en el Pacífico. | ” |
“ | Also, in the southern states of Oaxaca and Guerrero, hundreds of people were evacuated due to the floods, but Hurricane Specialist Eric Blake said that these rains were indirectly associated with Alex, and that possibly they were residual effects of Hurricane Darby, which dissipated in the Pacific Ocean. | ” |
There is a plethora of information available for Preps/Impact/Aftermath on the Texas Department of Public Safety website. They have 36 situation reports on the storm and the following floods along the Rio Grande. Although these reports are numerous, they don't last forever since the site does not keep an archive of these (AFAIK). The site it located at this link. Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 02:33, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Why isn't the other image of Alex put in the infobox? Someone changed it, but the other one looks better. Is this vandalism? Or does anyone else think it shouldn't be there? I like the other one because it looks better, even though Alex wasn't at it's peak when that image was taken. Does anyone else think it should be changed? I personally don't like it the way it is. Celia's image was when it was a 4, and the seperate peak intensity image is in the main article on that storm. Rye998 ( talk) 19:50, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
I am AGF, but every other storm in 2010 went by the picture like Alex when it was a category one, so it shouldn't be different with this storm. We go by what the quality of the picture is, not by whether or not it was stronger with a different picture, or we go by what we can find. Rye998 ( talk) 23:39, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
That's it up through the MH. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:34, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
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typing from an iPhone sorry if this comes out messy, however the Houston Chronicle just released an article about preparations. I can't provide the link because my phone is lame but it talks about Tex. Gov Perry declaring states of emergency for 19 counties and other very wiki information. Keep up the good work ... Altarboy420 ( talk) 02:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC) ... http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/7085151.html Altarboy420 ( talk) 03:08, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
A Mexican Weather Station picked up a pressure reading of ~992mb while Alex made landfall, see this link, should this be mentioned in the article? - Marcusmax( speak) 01:59, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
According to the current track data Alex made a direct hit on the island chain of Cayos Arcas today, it appears the Center of Circulation passed within about two miles of the island chain located at 20.21'N 91.98'W per this. I naddition per the 4:00 CDT advisory (Advisory 13) a Mexican Naval station on the island reported a pressure of 992mb. Should this data be added to the article, or the tohe table on the season page? - Marcusmax( speak) 21:52, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Currently, this is mentioned in both the Preparations and Impact sections. The mentions should be consolidated, into either section. Or, would having a section dedicated to potential impact on the oil spill be necessary? Nickm93 ( talk) 22:36, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Being the first TS of the season, it does alert people to the potential threat that could face the oil spill and operations there. However, the storm itself has stayed well away from the site. For that reason, I agree it should only have minimal mention here. Nickm93 ( talk) 22:44, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Should we take note of the size of the storm in the article, or should we wait until after the season ends to do so? The storm is, I would estimate, about 25 degrees wide in latitude and longitude including its outer bands. It already fills up almost the entire Gulf of Mexico. This is likely the result of Alex being the merger of an ICTZ wave and another wave, developing into a storm similar in style to a West Pacific typhoon. Also, Hurricane Darby started weakening when Alex developed into a depression, when it was already large enough to have an effect on the much stronger hurricane. Alex eventually reduced Darby to a depression and absorbed it. Should we mention this as well, and the fact that some spiral bands extend to the East Pacific? Thanks. ~ A H 1( T C U) 23:20, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
The lead mentions Alex becoming a hurricane early on June 30. While this is true for UTC, shouldn't we use the date for CDT (where the hurricane is)? Nickm93 ( talk) 03:00, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
The Houston Chronicle seems to be doing the best job on covering the current conditions of Hurricane Alex. They have been rather detailed about sandbag issuance and some mandatory evacuations on South Padre Island that are not mentioned in the article. Just thought it might be helpful. Also the 1995 season saw 19 named storms and 11 hurricanes, an incredibly active season. Should that be mentioned in the article? Altarboy420 ( talk) 04:35, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Alex is the first June hurricane since Allison in 1995, but it is also the strongest one since Audrey, the strongest ever, formed in 1957. Should this also be mentioned in the main article? 98.206.70.2 ( talk) 19:50, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Also, on Alex's peak, it became the strongest non-major hurricane in the Atlantic, 105 mph and 947 mbars. I think this should be mentioned too. 98.206.70.2 ( talk) 02:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
It looks like it'll make a landfall in June CDT, but in Greenwich time (UTC), it will be the morning of July 1st. How do you determine dates for landfall? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.234.100.114 ( talk)
So, if we were to say that this was the strongest June hurricane to make landfall since so and so, we'd be wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.234.100.114 ( talk) 21:45, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Officially, Alex made landfall at around 0200 UTC on July 1, so I suggest we avoid any June-landfall records. Juliancolton ( talk) 03:18, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
There is a well defined eye as of now, and I believe that it should be shown, as the picture now is messy and Tropical Storm-ish. Old Al ( Talk) 00:58, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
I have a 3D image that I composed myself, where should I put it in the article? Syntheticalconnections ( talk)( my contribs) 04:24, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
[ [1]] is the image that I was talking about, but should it be for a landfall image in the page, the main image now, or the main image later? Old Al ( Talk) 04:27, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
The Beeb says 12 deaths; has anyone found what the breakdown was? Titoxd( ?!? - cool stuff) 09:10, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Can someone provide an inline citation for the death toll so this can get onto ITN? Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:16, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Hurricane Alex underwent an eyewall replacement cycle, normally occurring only in major hurricanes, while it was a category one and had the pressure of a category three. However, after completing this cycle, Alex began to go through a reverse eyewall replacement cycle by building new inner eyewalls that replaced its outer eyewall. I have a source, but it's Jeff Masters' blog so I'm not sure if it's reliable enough for this info. Thanks. ~ A H 1( T C U) 22:15, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm grabbing the rainfall data from southern Mexico (in the last few days I can) from the SMN/CONAGUA website, and I'm finding some monumental totals in an area between 16 and 18.5 north latitude, and 98 and 100 degrees longitude, in the range of 40 and 110 inches (1-2.7 meters). Can someone with better knowledge of Spanish check out if there were numerous landslides in that state, or if these kinds of totals are substantiated elsewhere within their website? If this is true, the rains that fell in this state from Alex are nearly equal (in a 24 hour period) to the Wilma rainfall amounts in the Yucatan, and that Alex would have produced more rain than any other known tropical cyclone in Mexico. Thanks for whatever additional info you all can find. Thegreatdr ( talk) 19:28, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
“ | También en los estados sureños de Oaxaca y Guerrero se evacuó a cientos de personas por las inundaciones, pero el especialista en huracanes Eric Blake dijo que esas lluvias estaban indirectamente relacionadas con Alex y que posiblemente eran efectos residuales del huracán Darby, el cual se disipó en el Pacífico. | ” |
“ | Also, in the southern states of Oaxaca and Guerrero, hundreds of people were evacuated due to the floods, but Hurricane Specialist Eric Blake said that these rains were indirectly associated with Alex, and that possibly they were residual effects of Hurricane Darby, which dissipated in the Pacific Ocean. | ” |
There is a plethora of information available for Preps/Impact/Aftermath on the Texas Department of Public Safety website. They have 36 situation reports on the storm and the following floods along the Rio Grande. Although these reports are numerous, they don't last forever since the site does not keep an archive of these (AFAIK). The site it located at this link. Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 02:33, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Why isn't the other image of Alex put in the infobox? Someone changed it, but the other one looks better. Is this vandalism? Or does anyone else think it shouldn't be there? I like the other one because it looks better, even though Alex wasn't at it's peak when that image was taken. Does anyone else think it should be changed? I personally don't like it the way it is. Celia's image was when it was a 4, and the seperate peak intensity image is in the main article on that storm. Rye998 ( talk) 19:50, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
I am AGF, but every other storm in 2010 went by the picture like Alex when it was a category one, so it shouldn't be different with this storm. We go by what the quality of the picture is, not by whether or not it was stronger with a different picture, or we go by what we can find. Rye998 ( talk) 23:39, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
That's it up through the MH. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:34, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
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