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Is that speed skater really related to the Hunyadi family we're speaking about here? Alensha 23:41, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Let me point to contradiction between the article 'Hunyadi' - which says "The Hunyadi family is sometimes referred to as Corvin in Romanian" - and article 'Matthias Corvinus of Hungary', which says: "The later epithet Corvinus was coined by Matthias' biographer Antonio Bonfini, who claimed that the Hunyadi family (whose coat of arms depicts a raven—corvus in Latin) descended from the ancient Roman gens of the Corvini." The Corvin name is widely used in Hungarian (just think of Matthias' famous library Corvina). Some more research into the question is recommended, but the Romanian etymology certainly needs to be corrected to Latin in the 'Hunyadi' article. (By user Korovioff, Jan 28, 2006)

I'm deleting the "Hunyadi family" section, due to irrelevant information. If there's a coherent previous version that's better than the current one, please revert to that. -SCarter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.198.15 ( talk) 05:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC) reply

Just because someone has the Hunyadi surname it doesn't mean that he or she is descended from or related to the historic Hunyadi family. Many Hungarian serfs/peasants adopted the names of their feudal landlords over the centuries and this explains why there are people with the family name of Hunyadi. This practice of adopting the names of noble families by their serf tennants is somewhat similar to African-American slaves being given the family names of their owners, thus many African-Americans today have the surname of a family that had owned one or more of their slave ancestors.

I agree with the above contributer who feels like I do that the Hunyadi family section of the article has irrelevant information. The Hunyadi family from Tennessee are not the only Hunyadis in the United States or Hungary for that matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gyula ( talkcontribs) 02:39, 24 March 2008 (UTC) reply

The phrase "with Vlach (Serbian) and Magyar ancestry" is a curious one; the term "Vlach" mean Rumanian, not Serb. It also refers to many other Rumanian-related or Roman-descended Balkan ethnic groups, and to the historical region of Wallachia (Vlahia) - but not to the Serbs, or any other Slavic-speaking people. Whether it should read "with Vlach, Serb and Magyar ancestry" or "with Vlach (Rumanian) and Magyar ancestry" or "with Serb and Magyar ancestry" I don't know, but the existing formula is rather confusing.

Corvin comes from Király

I believe that. 199.117.69.8 ( talk) 21:04, 23 February 2009 (UTC) reply

Heated debate?

The article states: Their Vlach ancestry is the subject of much heated debate but two contemporary authors have made this claim

As far as I know debates of the origin of the family ended more than a hundred years ago. According to the mainstream, accepted view the Hunyadi family had vlach origin.

So where is this heated debate?

Bye, unregisted user —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.98.78.131 ( talk) 17:31, 11 October 2009 (UTC) reply

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Is that speed skater really related to the Hunyadi family we're speaking about here? Alensha 23:41, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Let me point to contradiction between the article 'Hunyadi' - which says "The Hunyadi family is sometimes referred to as Corvin in Romanian" - and article 'Matthias Corvinus of Hungary', which says: "The later epithet Corvinus was coined by Matthias' biographer Antonio Bonfini, who claimed that the Hunyadi family (whose coat of arms depicts a raven—corvus in Latin) descended from the ancient Roman gens of the Corvini." The Corvin name is widely used in Hungarian (just think of Matthias' famous library Corvina). Some more research into the question is recommended, but the Romanian etymology certainly needs to be corrected to Latin in the 'Hunyadi' article. (By user Korovioff, Jan 28, 2006)

I'm deleting the "Hunyadi family" section, due to irrelevant information. If there's a coherent previous version that's better than the current one, please revert to that. -SCarter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.198.15 ( talk) 05:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC) reply

Just because someone has the Hunyadi surname it doesn't mean that he or she is descended from or related to the historic Hunyadi family. Many Hungarian serfs/peasants adopted the names of their feudal landlords over the centuries and this explains why there are people with the family name of Hunyadi. This practice of adopting the names of noble families by their serf tennants is somewhat similar to African-American slaves being given the family names of their owners, thus many African-Americans today have the surname of a family that had owned one or more of their slave ancestors.

I agree with the above contributer who feels like I do that the Hunyadi family section of the article has irrelevant information. The Hunyadi family from Tennessee are not the only Hunyadis in the United States or Hungary for that matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gyula ( talkcontribs) 02:39, 24 March 2008 (UTC) reply

The phrase "with Vlach (Serbian) and Magyar ancestry" is a curious one; the term "Vlach" mean Rumanian, not Serb. It also refers to many other Rumanian-related or Roman-descended Balkan ethnic groups, and to the historical region of Wallachia (Vlahia) - but not to the Serbs, or any other Slavic-speaking people. Whether it should read "with Vlach, Serb and Magyar ancestry" or "with Vlach (Rumanian) and Magyar ancestry" or "with Serb and Magyar ancestry" I don't know, but the existing formula is rather confusing.

Corvin comes from Király

I believe that. 199.117.69.8 ( talk) 21:04, 23 February 2009 (UTC) reply

Heated debate?

The article states: Their Vlach ancestry is the subject of much heated debate but two contemporary authors have made this claim

As far as I know debates of the origin of the family ended more than a hundred years ago. According to the mainstream, accepted view the Hunyadi family had vlach origin.

So where is this heated debate?

Bye, unregisted user —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.98.78.131 ( talk) 17:31, 11 October 2009 (UTC) reply


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