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Who on earth thinks a radio station playing it in one country for a couple weeks equates to this being an official single? It has no add date, no single art, no individual purchase and none of her fans or crew have ever called this a single. BlaccCrab ( talk) 11:23, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
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In my research, I have not found any reliable sources indicating this song was ever released as a single. "Wide Awake" was also officially declared as the end of the "Teenage Dream" era. Her songs "Pearl" and "Who Am I Living For?" have articles, but were never singles. If anything, this song may have been more like a promotional single, though. Thesomeone987 ( talk) 21:27, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Whatever Status, the problems remain of the article starting with "Humbingbird Heartbeat is a song...." but the Infobox stating "Single by Katy Perry"'. For the people who don't follow fanzine articles that's pretty ambiguous. So I changed the intro to help make it a little clearer, but you reverted me without saying why. Please explain. Moriori ( talk) 03:50, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Rather than have an image of her ex-husband in the article, it would be more suitable to have a cover as the profile picture and perhaps a photo or two of Katy performing the song itself. XXSNUGGUMSXX ( talk) 19:34, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
An image is appropriate where it can be justified to expand upon or clarify the topic of an article. Perry talking about the song being inspired by her husband is sufficient justification for the inclusion of the image of Brand. → Lil – ℧niquԐ 1 -{ Talk }- 19:08, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
This has gone on long enough. For the sake of resolving this, can we come to a consensus on the Russell Brand image, PopCrush and Tricky Stewart, please? Starting a discussion because me protecting the page would be a blatant abuse of the admin tools, given my participation in the dispute. Pinging @ Status:, @ Tbhotch:, @ Tomica: and @ XXSNUGGUMSXX:. Acalamari 21:28, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
You must stop calling PopCrush unreliable with zero sources to back up your claims. And if you truly believed it was unreliable (and not just unreliable because it posted articles about things you dispute), you would make a move to get the site blacklisted from use on Wikipedia. The album booklet credits him as C. "Tricky" Stewart; you can't just pick whatever the hell you want to name him. The image has been discussed in an earlier thread. I get it, she isn't with him anymore, but the song was about him. The picture stays. It's a relevant image. — Status ( talk · contribs) 01:21, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
XXSNUGGUMSXX ( talk) 01:54, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm not too sure how this song is notable enough to have its own article. While it may have charted, the song didn't exactly have an impact (unlike the previous Teenage Dream singles) and is widely unheard of outside of Katy Perry's fanbase and music critics. I suggest we reassess the decision to keep this article. If not delete, it's best to redirect this article to the Teenage Dream album page. The "Who Am I Living For?" and "Pearl" articles are even less notable and really shouldn't have their own articles. For now, I am placing a tag indicating this article's notability is questioned. 174.236.1.106 ( talk) 23:23, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Since for some reason the AfD tag links to the previous debate, a reassessment will be held here. The song fails notability per WP:NSONGS as it never exactly made headlines or achieved any popularity whatsoever. Regarding release and charting, the chart positions it reached were rather low, and never really made highlights in the music industry. Also, not every single released becomes notable. The song also had no impact whatsoever on Katy Perry's career. If the singles from Katy Hudson aren't notable enough to have their own articles (which actually were significant to her career unloke this song), than this definitely isn't either. If not delete, I strongly suggest merge. 198.168.38.129 ( talk) 19:01, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
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Who on earth thinks a radio station playing it in one country for a couple weeks equates to this being an official single? It has no add date, no single art, no individual purchase and none of her fans or crew have ever called this a single. BlaccCrab ( talk) 11:23, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
In my research, I have not found any reliable sources indicating this song was ever released as a single. "Wide Awake" was also officially declared as the end of the "Teenage Dream" era. Her songs "Pearl" and "Who Am I Living For?" have articles, but were never singles. If anything, this song may have been more like a promotional single, though. Thesomeone987 ( talk) 21:27, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Whatever Status, the problems remain of the article starting with "Humbingbird Heartbeat is a song...." but the Infobox stating "Single by Katy Perry"'. For the people who don't follow fanzine articles that's pretty ambiguous. So I changed the intro to help make it a little clearer, but you reverted me without saying why. Please explain. Moriori ( talk) 03:50, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Rather than have an image of her ex-husband in the article, it would be more suitable to have a cover as the profile picture and perhaps a photo or two of Katy performing the song itself. XXSNUGGUMSXX ( talk) 19:34, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
An image is appropriate where it can be justified to expand upon or clarify the topic of an article. Perry talking about the song being inspired by her husband is sufficient justification for the inclusion of the image of Brand. → Lil – ℧niquԐ 1 -{ Talk }- 19:08, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
This has gone on long enough. For the sake of resolving this, can we come to a consensus on the Russell Brand image, PopCrush and Tricky Stewart, please? Starting a discussion because me protecting the page would be a blatant abuse of the admin tools, given my participation in the dispute. Pinging @ Status:, @ Tbhotch:, @ Tomica: and @ XXSNUGGUMSXX:. Acalamari 21:28, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
You must stop calling PopCrush unreliable with zero sources to back up your claims. And if you truly believed it was unreliable (and not just unreliable because it posted articles about things you dispute), you would make a move to get the site blacklisted from use on Wikipedia. The album booklet credits him as C. "Tricky" Stewart; you can't just pick whatever the hell you want to name him. The image has been discussed in an earlier thread. I get it, she isn't with him anymore, but the song was about him. The picture stays. It's a relevant image. — Status ( talk · contribs) 01:21, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
XXSNUGGUMSXX ( talk) 01:54, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm not too sure how this song is notable enough to have its own article. While it may have charted, the song didn't exactly have an impact (unlike the previous Teenage Dream singles) and is widely unheard of outside of Katy Perry's fanbase and music critics. I suggest we reassess the decision to keep this article. If not delete, it's best to redirect this article to the Teenage Dream album page. The "Who Am I Living For?" and "Pearl" articles are even less notable and really shouldn't have their own articles. For now, I am placing a tag indicating this article's notability is questioned. 174.236.1.106 ( talk) 23:23, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Since for some reason the AfD tag links to the previous debate, a reassessment will be held here. The song fails notability per WP:NSONGS as it never exactly made headlines or achieved any popularity whatsoever. Regarding release and charting, the chart positions it reached were rather low, and never really made highlights in the music industry. Also, not every single released becomes notable. The song also had no impact whatsoever on Katy Perry's career. If the singles from Katy Hudson aren't notable enough to have their own articles (which actually were significant to her career unloke this song), than this definitely isn't either. If not delete, I strongly suggest merge. 198.168.38.129 ( talk) 19:01, 16 February 2014 (UTC)