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You People Didn't Help Us — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.255.86 ( talk) 07:02, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
what is "trans-jacking" ?
Should Love Rocks and related CDs not be moved out to their own article, in accordance with Wikiproject: Albums? The Hooded Man 02:21, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Ameltzer 22:40, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
If the question is one of who has criticized HRC, one could include Andrew Sullivan, who has recently published a number of critical items of The Daily Dish. OPen2737 03:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
There is no backing to this section and just talks of a certain group of people who are not named. If citations were given, it would be ok, but it probably needs to be removed until then. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.185.174.165 ( talk • contribs) 22:51, 4 September 2006 (UTC).
If there is something notable about HRC's purchase and renovation of its headquarters, that is not apparent from this article. If there is something notable, that should be indicated. If not, it may not belong here. -- Dfeuer 01:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
This organisation's name is a cynical attempt to mislead people that it is a generalist human rights organisation, when it is actually a narrowly focused interest group. Surely this has been commented on before, and there could be something about it in the article. Greg Grahame ( talk) 01:29, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
And please Greg, stay on topic. This is not a discussion to state your opinons about the organization. Before making accusations, do research to futher your belief. Azcolvin429 ( talk) 08:31, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
While Greg's statements are too far-going and speculative, he does make one good point: A name like "Human Rights Campaign" is misleading (whether deliberately or accidentally) for a gay-rights movement, and depending on the exact circumstances it may well be worth commenting on.
(Consider instead, for instance, "Human Rights for Gays Campaign" and note the different associations.) 88.77.152.227 ( talk) 18:21, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't have anything to offer, but leaving aside the tone of this topic's initiator, I have had similar concerns about the title. In this present moment, attempting to find answers to the origin of the name is what has brought me to this today. I may be a small sample size, but consider me as submitting my own case as testament to the notability of the question of HRC's name. 152.23.53.187 ( talk) 20:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Blogs are not verifiable references. You have to use the data and cite that source that the blogger got it from and present it without drawing a conclusion.
If Andrew Sullivan's column is an acceptable source, then I will use it for articles regarding National Organization for Marriage.
obviously the article states more criticism than content and is POV, so it shouldn't come as a surprise when it is edited.-- DCX ( talk) 04:15, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Agreed with the propagandistic nature of the name of the Human Rights Campaign. Would be interested to know the roots of the name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.62.88.217 ( talk) 06:28, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
The paragraph in the criticism section says that HRC did not support the 2007 ENDA bill. However:
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/3543/
HRC has said it doesn't support the bill, but they have also said they support the bill. There wasn't a mountain of controversy over HRC's seemingly balanced "don't support - don't oppose" stance. People were criticizing their support of the bill. The article doesn't reflect that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volfy ( talk • contribs) 17:40, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
I just reverted this back multiple weeks to undo an anonymous user's elimination of all suggestions that HRC cares about people who are transgender. I didn't love doing that, rather than going piecemeal, but it seemed appropriate. This seems to emphasize the need for more work beefing up the language on HRC's position vis-a-vis issues of transgenderism. I lack the expertise and time to put that in; I hope others do not. Czrisher ( talk) 14:38, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Before this organization gets people in trouble by accepting contributions that are SUPER pac size please consider and/or post in article something to effect..How the HRC makes sure a big donor doesn't get in trouble when HRC funds are spent in accordance with campaign specific specialty interest election laws for individual states.
Talk to GLAD for clarifications they were involved in winning this ruling.
As demonstrated in the US First Circuit Court of Appeals January 31, 2012 ruling against the National Organization for Marriage, issue specific PACs are subject to the reasonable person test. . [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
References
NYyankees51 ( talk) 16:01, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
It seems I didn't finish that list, so again, point by point:
If you want to revert one or more, please respond below and justify your reverts point by point by using the numbers I have used. NYyankees51 ( talk) 18:57, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I've recently seen the logo showing up as a pink equal sign on a red background, rather than the longstanding yellow on blue. (Screenshot of their web site, taken just a moment ago: [1])Have they changed their logo color? cmadler ( talk) 09:40, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone want to take a shot at expanding the lead? It strikes me as too short for an article of this length and an organization of this scope. Happy to help if anyone wants to take the lead (excuse the pun :) Thanks. Safehaven86 ( talk) 19:35, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
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I placed a failed verification tag in the history section where it states that the HRC was founded in 1980. The source, Endean's obituary, actually states that he founded the HRC in 1982. The HRC website also gives 1980. Interesting discrepancy. ThirdDolphin ( talk) 06:40, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
his article says he's co-founder of HRC. why is he not mentioned anywhere?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.36.82 ( talk) 08:10, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
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You People Didn't Help Us — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.255.86 ( talk) 07:02, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
what is "trans-jacking" ?
Should Love Rocks and related CDs not be moved out to their own article, in accordance with Wikiproject: Albums? The Hooded Man 02:21, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Ameltzer 22:40, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
If the question is one of who has criticized HRC, one could include Andrew Sullivan, who has recently published a number of critical items of The Daily Dish. OPen2737 03:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
There is no backing to this section and just talks of a certain group of people who are not named. If citations were given, it would be ok, but it probably needs to be removed until then. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.185.174.165 ( talk • contribs) 22:51, 4 September 2006 (UTC).
If there is something notable about HRC's purchase and renovation of its headquarters, that is not apparent from this article. If there is something notable, that should be indicated. If not, it may not belong here. -- Dfeuer 01:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
This organisation's name is a cynical attempt to mislead people that it is a generalist human rights organisation, when it is actually a narrowly focused interest group. Surely this has been commented on before, and there could be something about it in the article. Greg Grahame ( talk) 01:29, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
And please Greg, stay on topic. This is not a discussion to state your opinons about the organization. Before making accusations, do research to futher your belief. Azcolvin429 ( talk) 08:31, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
While Greg's statements are too far-going and speculative, he does make one good point: A name like "Human Rights Campaign" is misleading (whether deliberately or accidentally) for a gay-rights movement, and depending on the exact circumstances it may well be worth commenting on.
(Consider instead, for instance, "Human Rights for Gays Campaign" and note the different associations.) 88.77.152.227 ( talk) 18:21, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't have anything to offer, but leaving aside the tone of this topic's initiator, I have had similar concerns about the title. In this present moment, attempting to find answers to the origin of the name is what has brought me to this today. I may be a small sample size, but consider me as submitting my own case as testament to the notability of the question of HRC's name. 152.23.53.187 ( talk) 20:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Blogs are not verifiable references. You have to use the data and cite that source that the blogger got it from and present it without drawing a conclusion.
If Andrew Sullivan's column is an acceptable source, then I will use it for articles regarding National Organization for Marriage.
obviously the article states more criticism than content and is POV, so it shouldn't come as a surprise when it is edited.-- DCX ( talk) 04:15, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Agreed with the propagandistic nature of the name of the Human Rights Campaign. Would be interested to know the roots of the name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.62.88.217 ( talk) 06:28, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
The paragraph in the criticism section says that HRC did not support the 2007 ENDA bill. However:
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/3543/
HRC has said it doesn't support the bill, but they have also said they support the bill. There wasn't a mountain of controversy over HRC's seemingly balanced "don't support - don't oppose" stance. People were criticizing their support of the bill. The article doesn't reflect that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volfy ( talk • contribs) 17:40, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
I just reverted this back multiple weeks to undo an anonymous user's elimination of all suggestions that HRC cares about people who are transgender. I didn't love doing that, rather than going piecemeal, but it seemed appropriate. This seems to emphasize the need for more work beefing up the language on HRC's position vis-a-vis issues of transgenderism. I lack the expertise and time to put that in; I hope others do not. Czrisher ( talk) 14:38, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Before this organization gets people in trouble by accepting contributions that are SUPER pac size please consider and/or post in article something to effect..How the HRC makes sure a big donor doesn't get in trouble when HRC funds are spent in accordance with campaign specific specialty interest election laws for individual states.
Talk to GLAD for clarifications they were involved in winning this ruling.
As demonstrated in the US First Circuit Court of Appeals January 31, 2012 ruling against the National Organization for Marriage, issue specific PACs are subject to the reasonable person test. . [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
References
NYyankees51 ( talk) 16:01, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
It seems I didn't finish that list, so again, point by point:
If you want to revert one or more, please respond below and justify your reverts point by point by using the numbers I have used. NYyankees51 ( talk) 18:57, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I've recently seen the logo showing up as a pink equal sign on a red background, rather than the longstanding yellow on blue. (Screenshot of their web site, taken just a moment ago: [1])Have they changed their logo color? cmadler ( talk) 09:40, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone want to take a shot at expanding the lead? It strikes me as too short for an article of this length and an organization of this scope. Happy to help if anyone wants to take the lead (excuse the pun :) Thanks. Safehaven86 ( talk) 19:35, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
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I placed a failed verification tag in the history section where it states that the HRC was founded in 1980. The source, Endean's obituary, actually states that he founded the HRC in 1982. The HRC website also gives 1980. Interesting discrepancy. ThirdDolphin ( talk) 06:40, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
his article says he's co-founder of HRC. why is he not mentioned anywhere?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.36.82 ( talk) 08:10, 3 February 2022 (UTC)