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A quote from one of Dean's speeches (the one with the "scream") seems to be addressed to Tom Harkin. Is there a reason why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.214.169.224 ( talk) 20:54, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Image:AlGoreHowardDean.jpg is clearly identified as the property of the Reuters wire service on its page. Wire photos are against Wikipedia policy, so I removed it from the page. -- 12.217.121.245 04:30, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
This paragraph is very POV:
Anyone who's seen the video should be able to realize that Dean's style of speaking cannot be explained as his attempt to be heard over the crowd. He's not just speaking loudly. His body language is also very intense and forceful. And the scream at then was clearly not an attempt to just be heard. Dean was obviously trying to pump of the crowd with a very emotionally charged performance, and while there's nothing wrong with this in the end he just looked silly.-- 198.93.113.49 15:02, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
"However, those who were in the actual audience that day insist that they were not aware of the infamous scream until they returned to their hotel rooms and saw it on TV. There were many thousands of people in the room that day, all screaming for all they were worth, making it hard to hear Dean, even with a microphone - this is very different from the media image of Dean screaming to an empty room."
Is there anyone who is aware of a media image where Dean was screaming to an empty room? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.74.80.240 ( talk) 22:16, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Atlant and I talked over why he reverted the phrase he did, and here's what I think works. My original phrase was imperfect because it implied that all or most of Dean's supporters were radical. His correction was imperfect because it implied that Dean was branded as a radical due to the actions/rhetoric of his moderately left-wing supporters. So I corrected the language to be more precise: his most radicalized supporters, by association and their visibility, branded Dean as being a radical. The lorax reverted that as well, apparantly on POV grounds, but I've re-reverted because I think that this is the least POV and most descriptive wording. Dean was branded as an extremist by both the media and his opponents. This was facilitated by his most radicalized supporters' rhetoric. These supporters were not "left-leaning", but similarly they weren't necessarily his core or mainstream supporters.
I'm trying to avoid implying that it was his "left-leaning" (ie more moderate) supporters who contributed to his characterization as a radical. What POV was being detected?
Wellspring 12:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Since I do not have or could possibly be NPOV, concerncing Dr. Dean, should his recent remarks concerning Jewish Republicans be relevant, especially as a quote? His remarks given on the heels by a simmilar speech by Republican National Convention chair Ken Mehlman, given to the American Jewish Commitee, "took a swipe at Republicans saying..." I was recently asked about the difference between the Democratic and Republican parties... when it comes down to it, the difference is that the Democrats fundamentally believe that it is important to make sure that American Jews feel comfortable being American Jews."" [ http://seattlepi.com/national/1110AP_Dean.html?s=dean. This was in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. is there any chance someone wants to add this into his quotes section, if not, I will do it myself in a couple of days, and y'all can edit me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valentinejoesmith ( talk • contribs) 23:57, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
8bitjake- feel free to rephrase the sentences, but factual, documented examples of criticism of Dean's DNC leadership belong in the paragraph about taking fire from his own side. If you would like to rephrase the sentences (although I largely echoed the Bismarck Tribune's wording, so it's hard for me to think it's too biased), I'm sure we can work something out.
Additionally, media outlets have reported on Dean's repeated refusal to debate the RNC chairman after former DNC chairman McAuliffe regularly made appearances with his Republican counterpart. Again, if you would like to rephrase the sentence, please help yourself.
Continuing to delete relevant information is not appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nhertel ( talk • contribs) 05:16, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't the Confederate flag remark be included? -- Silver2195 18:18, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
As far as the white, Christian remark goes, along with Senator Obama's remark, a nice addition would be RNC Chairman, Ken Mehlman's, response to the effect of, "I'm sure those who attended my bar mitzvah will be surprised to hear that I am now the head of a white, Christian party". Lmeister 21:53, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
On the Kelo case, I changed the dissenting justices. O'Connor wrote the opinion that others joined, not Thomas. Thomas both joined her opinion, and wrote a separate dissent to which no one joined. -- Redheaded dude ( talk) 15:43, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I know he said he did, but i don't quite trust it, doesn't fit well with such a left wing carreer politician-- John Herbert Walker Bush Smith 00:36, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Well he was not a NRA member but he did not pass any new gun laws in Vermont when he was Governor. So he got a good rating from the NRA. This came up in the 2004 primary debate. I don't think American poltics is as simple as right and left-- 8bitJake 03:03, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Actually gay americans can't get married in Vermont. They can get "Civil Unions" but not married. -- 8bitJake 19:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
give me a break, this is not a word, he said the word yes or yeah, even including 'Yeaaaaagggggh' in an encyclopedia article is beyond silly, if someone can find the actual transcript, sure, but including Yeaaaaagggggh!!! as part of a quote...-- 64.12.116.12 20:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Neither title is POV free - anybody got a better suggestion? Clearly the scream is a big part of of mythology around the end of the campaign and may or may not be why it effectivly collapsed when real voting started. Trapper 18:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Dean is one of most controversial people in American politics yet his article barely stratches the surface. Many of his controversial quotes are left out yet if you look at any Republican's bio, there is a special section for controversies. -- Rambone (Talk) 20:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
POV disputes can go on forever, because they are just that. POV. Whether an article is POV or not depends on one's own POV. But something that is more objective is whether Howard Dean was the longest-serving Governor of Vermont or the second-longest serving Governor of Vermont. The article's current contention is that he was both. The confusion here is from the fact that for some of the time that Thomas Chittenden was governor, Vermont was not admitted as a U.S. state and was really still its own country. Dean is the longest-serving governor of the U.S. state of Vermont; adding his post- statehood time as governor to his time as the head of the goverment when Vermont was independent, Chittenden is the longest serving Governor of Vermont. So either one can be right. Should the article go with the "longest-serving governor of the State of Vermont" answer? Rlquall 21:03, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Should this section be moved to Wikiquote? I dont know and havent been able to surmise the admin policy on this. Other political pages have their own wikiquote pages and not a quote section. However, is there anykind of stated policy on this matter? I wont move anything until people weigh in on the situation but will put a nominating tag on the quote section just so people are aware of the discussion. Jasper23 18:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, after no response I moved the quotations. What do people think? Jasper23 22:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
The addition of possible skull and bones affliation while attending Yale, or the fact he did not deny the claims, should be added to the article. I think it would give a better insight into the Dean character, why he supported Kerry, and information about his activities at Yale. Can someone find some sources and post it up? Thanx. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.225.35.36 ( talk • contribs) {{{2}}}.
It says at the bottom that Dean supports same-sex marriage. That's the first time I've ever heard that - when did he change his position on that issue?-- Mr Beale 19:03, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Is a horrible POV + OR mess. It's not even mostly about his statements. Needs fundamental reworking. Derex 22:35, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
This is the speach leading up to the scream. The speach is clearly intelligable, but the scream gets lost in the crowd chant. It think it is a worthwhile addtion to this article. The actual scream could be added as a separate OGG file. -- 68.207.206.69 18:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Link To Video and a Link To Article -- 68.207.206.69 19:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Dean Denies the scream http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA426285.html?display=Breaking+News&promocode=SUPP&nid=2228-- 68.207.206.69 19:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
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In the part about the Dean scream there is a sentence that reads, "The incessant replaying of the "Dean Scream" by the press became a debate on the topic of whether Dean was the victim of media bias. Such reports certainly fit with reports of "unelectability," as shown by Green's Atlantic Monthly piece." Who is this Green person? Nowhere else in the article is there a reference to Green who apparently writes for the Atlantic Monthly. -- Tocino 06:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
The picture of Dean filled my webbrowser and pushes out all content from the article. I am using FireFox3 and maybe that is the problem, but every other article on Wikipedia displays correctly. -- John Bahrain ( talk) 15:22, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
The article has a long section on the 50 state strategy, and nowhere in the section does is mention that Dean came under serious crticism from establishment democrats for this change in strategy. An editor immediately removed by sourced insertion of a mention of this, claiming it was irrelevant. It seems very relevant to me--What do others think? Gilbertine goldmark ( talk) 20:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be a long section about the Dean Scream. Is this to suggest that the scream is more notable than his career as governor? Should there be an effort to count sentences and allot a quota to early life, governor, chairman, scream? Yes? No? Does length (either too long or too short) create a biased situation?
There was a citation needed tag-has become known in American political jargon as the "Dean Scream".[citation needed]
I have found two citations to prove that the term is used.
FridayCell7 (
talk)
21:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
he is far more known for the scream than for anything he did as governor Really?!
FridayCell7 (
talk)
19:04, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
There is a sentence that keeps reappearing stating that in Vermont Dean is considered a moderate not a liberal. I have not marked this as "reference needed." Instead I have removed this statement (twice). Having lived in Vermont for Dean's entire political carrier, I have never seen him regarded as a moderate here. If somebody wants to reverse my edit please state why here first. The Goat ( talk) 00:52, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
The article doesn't have any mention of his next gig, after relinquishing the DNC chairmanship. Is there speculation worth covering out there? MrZaius talk 07:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/11/01/elec04.prez.dean.confederate.flag/
This was a key element in opposition to Dean as a candidate by other Democrats. As such, it should be included in the article. I placed it in the timeline until the regular editors of this page find a more relevant place for it. 71.102.30.217 ( talk) 07:38, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
How much of this page is written by Randall Monroe?
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Regarding public-relations campaign on behalf of the Mujahedin-e Khalq (MEK), lobbying Obama to remove it from the official list of terrorist organizations.
His current activities now need further updating regarding pharmacy industry work.....
As I'd like to get resolution before bothering overworked staff at Wikki, is there just going to be a constant removal of relevent stuff here? This is easily verifiable stuff.
Thanks Kraig Richard ( talk) 13:24, 8 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kraig Richard ( talk • contribs) 13:22, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
The page says this: He is a noted staunch supporter of universal health care.[3]
When I go to source number 3 and read the whole thing, it never once says that he supports universal healthcare. How can someone use this article claim he is a "staunch" supporter of it if he never comes out saying he supports it?
Is there another source for him supporting universal healthcare? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.222.56.199 ( talk) 18:48, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
"The uninsured rate in Vermont dropped from 12.7% to 9.6% under his watch."
This statistic is in the page, yet there is no citation for it. Doing a google search does not provide a source for this statistic, hence I am skeptical. A claim using specific numbers such as these should have a citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.222.56.199 ( talk) 16:22, 18 November 2014
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/DeanScream.ogg
it should ideally be in the intro paragraphs.
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Howard Dean has a troubling record of posting extremely anti-Semitic remarks on Twitter, and I am frankly surprised this is not mentioned in the article. Whenever a right-wing politician says something someone deems offensive, Wikipedia makes sure to include at least a paragraph about it. Source: [1]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clerkaggi ( talk • contribs) 03:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
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A quote from one of Dean's speeches (the one with the "scream") seems to be addressed to Tom Harkin. Is there a reason why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.214.169.224 ( talk) 20:54, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Image:AlGoreHowardDean.jpg is clearly identified as the property of the Reuters wire service on its page. Wire photos are against Wikipedia policy, so I removed it from the page. -- 12.217.121.245 04:30, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
This paragraph is very POV:
Anyone who's seen the video should be able to realize that Dean's style of speaking cannot be explained as his attempt to be heard over the crowd. He's not just speaking loudly. His body language is also very intense and forceful. And the scream at then was clearly not an attempt to just be heard. Dean was obviously trying to pump of the crowd with a very emotionally charged performance, and while there's nothing wrong with this in the end he just looked silly.-- 198.93.113.49 15:02, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
"However, those who were in the actual audience that day insist that they were not aware of the infamous scream until they returned to their hotel rooms and saw it on TV. There were many thousands of people in the room that day, all screaming for all they were worth, making it hard to hear Dean, even with a microphone - this is very different from the media image of Dean screaming to an empty room."
Is there anyone who is aware of a media image where Dean was screaming to an empty room? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.74.80.240 ( talk) 22:16, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Atlant and I talked over why he reverted the phrase he did, and here's what I think works. My original phrase was imperfect because it implied that all or most of Dean's supporters were radical. His correction was imperfect because it implied that Dean was branded as a radical due to the actions/rhetoric of his moderately left-wing supporters. So I corrected the language to be more precise: his most radicalized supporters, by association and their visibility, branded Dean as being a radical. The lorax reverted that as well, apparantly on POV grounds, but I've re-reverted because I think that this is the least POV and most descriptive wording. Dean was branded as an extremist by both the media and his opponents. This was facilitated by his most radicalized supporters' rhetoric. These supporters were not "left-leaning", but similarly they weren't necessarily his core or mainstream supporters.
I'm trying to avoid implying that it was his "left-leaning" (ie more moderate) supporters who contributed to his characterization as a radical. What POV was being detected?
Wellspring 12:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Since I do not have or could possibly be NPOV, concerncing Dr. Dean, should his recent remarks concerning Jewish Republicans be relevant, especially as a quote? His remarks given on the heels by a simmilar speech by Republican National Convention chair Ken Mehlman, given to the American Jewish Commitee, "took a swipe at Republicans saying..." I was recently asked about the difference between the Democratic and Republican parties... when it comes down to it, the difference is that the Democrats fundamentally believe that it is important to make sure that American Jews feel comfortable being American Jews."" [ http://seattlepi.com/national/1110AP_Dean.html?s=dean. This was in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. is there any chance someone wants to add this into his quotes section, if not, I will do it myself in a couple of days, and y'all can edit me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valentinejoesmith ( talk • contribs) 23:57, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
8bitjake- feel free to rephrase the sentences, but factual, documented examples of criticism of Dean's DNC leadership belong in the paragraph about taking fire from his own side. If you would like to rephrase the sentences (although I largely echoed the Bismarck Tribune's wording, so it's hard for me to think it's too biased), I'm sure we can work something out.
Additionally, media outlets have reported on Dean's repeated refusal to debate the RNC chairman after former DNC chairman McAuliffe regularly made appearances with his Republican counterpart. Again, if you would like to rephrase the sentence, please help yourself.
Continuing to delete relevant information is not appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nhertel ( talk • contribs) 05:16, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't the Confederate flag remark be included? -- Silver2195 18:18, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
As far as the white, Christian remark goes, along with Senator Obama's remark, a nice addition would be RNC Chairman, Ken Mehlman's, response to the effect of, "I'm sure those who attended my bar mitzvah will be surprised to hear that I am now the head of a white, Christian party". Lmeister 21:53, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
On the Kelo case, I changed the dissenting justices. O'Connor wrote the opinion that others joined, not Thomas. Thomas both joined her opinion, and wrote a separate dissent to which no one joined. -- Redheaded dude ( talk) 15:43, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I know he said he did, but i don't quite trust it, doesn't fit well with such a left wing carreer politician-- John Herbert Walker Bush Smith 00:36, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Well he was not a NRA member but he did not pass any new gun laws in Vermont when he was Governor. So he got a good rating from the NRA. This came up in the 2004 primary debate. I don't think American poltics is as simple as right and left-- 8bitJake 03:03, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Actually gay americans can't get married in Vermont. They can get "Civil Unions" but not married. -- 8bitJake 19:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
give me a break, this is not a word, he said the word yes or yeah, even including 'Yeaaaaagggggh' in an encyclopedia article is beyond silly, if someone can find the actual transcript, sure, but including Yeaaaaagggggh!!! as part of a quote...-- 64.12.116.12 20:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Neither title is POV free - anybody got a better suggestion? Clearly the scream is a big part of of mythology around the end of the campaign and may or may not be why it effectivly collapsed when real voting started. Trapper 18:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Dean is one of most controversial people in American politics yet his article barely stratches the surface. Many of his controversial quotes are left out yet if you look at any Republican's bio, there is a special section for controversies. -- Rambone (Talk) 20:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
POV disputes can go on forever, because they are just that. POV. Whether an article is POV or not depends on one's own POV. But something that is more objective is whether Howard Dean was the longest-serving Governor of Vermont or the second-longest serving Governor of Vermont. The article's current contention is that he was both. The confusion here is from the fact that for some of the time that Thomas Chittenden was governor, Vermont was not admitted as a U.S. state and was really still its own country. Dean is the longest-serving governor of the U.S. state of Vermont; adding his post- statehood time as governor to his time as the head of the goverment when Vermont was independent, Chittenden is the longest serving Governor of Vermont. So either one can be right. Should the article go with the "longest-serving governor of the State of Vermont" answer? Rlquall 21:03, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Should this section be moved to Wikiquote? I dont know and havent been able to surmise the admin policy on this. Other political pages have their own wikiquote pages and not a quote section. However, is there anykind of stated policy on this matter? I wont move anything until people weigh in on the situation but will put a nominating tag on the quote section just so people are aware of the discussion. Jasper23 18:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, after no response I moved the quotations. What do people think? Jasper23 22:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
The addition of possible skull and bones affliation while attending Yale, or the fact he did not deny the claims, should be added to the article. I think it would give a better insight into the Dean character, why he supported Kerry, and information about his activities at Yale. Can someone find some sources and post it up? Thanx. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.225.35.36 ( talk • contribs) {{{2}}}.
It says at the bottom that Dean supports same-sex marriage. That's the first time I've ever heard that - when did he change his position on that issue?-- Mr Beale 19:03, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Is a horrible POV + OR mess. It's not even mostly about his statements. Needs fundamental reworking. Derex 22:35, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
This is the speach leading up to the scream. The speach is clearly intelligable, but the scream gets lost in the crowd chant. It think it is a worthwhile addtion to this article. The actual scream could be added as a separate OGG file. -- 68.207.206.69 18:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Link To Video and a Link To Article -- 68.207.206.69 19:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Dean Denies the scream http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA426285.html?display=Breaking+News&promocode=SUPP&nid=2228-- 68.207.206.69 19:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Members of the wiki Vermont Project are attempting to place the official Vermont State House portrait in the info boxes of past Vermont governors. As the infobox is about the state's governorship, not earlier, or later careers, please make room for this and locate other images in the article where appropriate. Thanks. CApitol3 13:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
In the part about the Dean scream there is a sentence that reads, "The incessant replaying of the "Dean Scream" by the press became a debate on the topic of whether Dean was the victim of media bias. Such reports certainly fit with reports of "unelectability," as shown by Green's Atlantic Monthly piece." Who is this Green person? Nowhere else in the article is there a reference to Green who apparently writes for the Atlantic Monthly. -- Tocino 06:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
The picture of Dean filled my webbrowser and pushes out all content from the article. I am using FireFox3 and maybe that is the problem, but every other article on Wikipedia displays correctly. -- John Bahrain ( talk) 15:22, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
The article has a long section on the 50 state strategy, and nowhere in the section does is mention that Dean came under serious crticism from establishment democrats for this change in strategy. An editor immediately removed by sourced insertion of a mention of this, claiming it was irrelevant. It seems very relevant to me--What do others think? Gilbertine goldmark ( talk) 20:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be a long section about the Dean Scream. Is this to suggest that the scream is more notable than his career as governor? Should there be an effort to count sentences and allot a quota to early life, governor, chairman, scream? Yes? No? Does length (either too long or too short) create a biased situation?
There was a citation needed tag-has become known in American political jargon as the "Dean Scream".[citation needed]
I have found two citations to prove that the term is used.
FridayCell7 (
talk)
21:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
he is far more known for the scream than for anything he did as governor Really?!
FridayCell7 (
talk)
19:04, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
There is a sentence that keeps reappearing stating that in Vermont Dean is considered a moderate not a liberal. I have not marked this as "reference needed." Instead I have removed this statement (twice). Having lived in Vermont for Dean's entire political carrier, I have never seen him regarded as a moderate here. If somebody wants to reverse my edit please state why here first. The Goat ( talk) 00:52, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
The article doesn't have any mention of his next gig, after relinquishing the DNC chairmanship. Is there speculation worth covering out there? MrZaius talk 07:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/11/01/elec04.prez.dean.confederate.flag/
This was a key element in opposition to Dean as a candidate by other Democrats. As such, it should be included in the article. I placed it in the timeline until the regular editors of this page find a more relevant place for it. 71.102.30.217 ( talk) 07:38, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
How much of this page is written by Randall Monroe?
Trustworthiness:Vendor reliability:Privacy:Child safety: —Preceding
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06:35, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Regarding public-relations campaign on behalf of the Mujahedin-e Khalq (MEK), lobbying Obama to remove it from the official list of terrorist organizations.
His current activities now need further updating regarding pharmacy industry work.....
As I'd like to get resolution before bothering overworked staff at Wikki, is there just going to be a constant removal of relevent stuff here? This is easily verifiable stuff.
Thanks Kraig Richard ( talk) 13:24, 8 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kraig Richard ( talk • contribs) 13:22, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
The page says this: He is a noted staunch supporter of universal health care.[3]
When I go to source number 3 and read the whole thing, it never once says that he supports universal healthcare. How can someone use this article claim he is a "staunch" supporter of it if he never comes out saying he supports it?
Is there another source for him supporting universal healthcare? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.222.56.199 ( talk) 18:48, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
"The uninsured rate in Vermont dropped from 12.7% to 9.6% under his watch."
This statistic is in the page, yet there is no citation for it. Doing a google search does not provide a source for this statistic, hence I am skeptical. A claim using specific numbers such as these should have a citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.222.56.199 ( talk) 16:22, 18 November 2014
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An IP editor asserts that, when Dean headed the party, he was Chairman, not Chair. This is plausible, but I have been unable to find references that support when the changeover in terminology took place, apart from resume-type material. The DNC bylaws of 2005 make reference to a "chairperson". The party website uses the term, "chair". User:HopsonRoad 13:22, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/DeanScream.ogg
it should ideally be in the intro paragraphs.
AllThatJazz2012 ( talk) 17:16, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Howard Dean has a troubling record of posting extremely anti-Semitic remarks on Twitter, and I am frankly surprised this is not mentioned in the article. Whenever a right-wing politician says something someone deems offensive, Wikipedia makes sure to include at least a paragraph about it. Source: [1]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clerkaggi ( talk • contribs) 03:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)