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This article is far too long, over twice the recommended length. Even the New York City article is 8kb shorter than this. This negatively affects readability and really needs to be trimmed. If there are long sections that should be kept, they get their own articles. A few suggestions on reducing length:
-- Loodog 03:05, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I created the Tallest buildings in Texas article quite a while ago hoping someone from Houston would find it and fill in the blank spots. I'm assuming the blank spots belong to Houston.. some might be San Antonio's, or at least, farther down the list. Any help would be appreciated.
Also, if anyone is interested, I've started WikiProject Dallas to organize work on City of Dallas articles. drumguy8800 C T 14:27, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know where to find a source to back up the claim that Kerry won the city of Houston? I've posted on this talk page as well, with no response so far. The claim sounds reasonable, but it still needs a source. Otherwise, I'm afraid it will have to be deleted from this article. Thanks. Ufwuct 16:01, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was No consensus. While, personally, I favor the proposal, this really comes close to WP:POINT. If LA didn't pass, Houston et al. certainly won't . This becomes a waste of time for all of us, and I urge the discussion to be continued at WP:NC or wherever, to reach a global consensus. Future polls of this nature might be closed per WP:SNOW. Duja 07:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Like Chicago, New York City, and Philadelphia, the three largest and most famous cities in Texas certainly don't need to be disambiguated by state, and using the city name only (without , Texas) in each is consistent with WP:NC(CN), and consistent with the Wikipedia convention used for almost all other large cities in the world. In each case, the name alone page redirects to the city article, so there are no ambiguity issues. Serge 18:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Please vote on whether to support or oppose all three moves. Add * '''Support''' or * '''Oppose''' on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.
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Will, whether every city is to be changed is a separate issue. The issue here is whether these three city articles are to be changed. All Wikipedia naming conventions are established, changed and evolved at the individual article level. They are documented as guidelines -- that allow for exceptions -- that reflect the conventions, not the other way around. The only way to change a naming convention is to, well, change names contrary to the convention! Conventions aren't determined by voting - they are determined by consensus in behavior, particularly by decisions made at the individual article level. -- Serge 21:12, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
To all interested parties, I have made a proposal that we change the guidelines so that 27 of the 30 cities that the AP Style Book says to use without the state in datelines should do so in their wikipedia article title as well, over at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements). I hope anyone interested in this issue will head over there and express their opinion. john k 03:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
(Cut off while doing my edit summary): I removed a paragraph from the Economy section because it was duplicated elsewhere (in History section and Demographics section). Ufwuct 16:56, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I removed the image of the Astrodome ([[Image:Picture_of_Reliant_Astrodome.JPG|250px|left|thumb|[[Reliant Astrodome|The Astrodome]]]]) for space and formatting reasons. We do have enough images in this article. As we cut down on article size (but reducing unnecessary text), we may need to remove 1 or 2 more. Perhaps this image would fit well under History of Houston, Culture of Houston, or Architecture of Houston. Ufwuct 17:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
There is a survey in progress at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements) to determine if there is consensus on a proposed change to the U.S. city naming conventions to be consistent with other countries, in particular Canada. -- Serge 05:44, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I can't figure out how to correct the density numbers in the right sidebar, which are clearly wrong by about half. Divide the population number by land area in the same sidebar and get about 3,480/sq.mile or 1,343/sq.km. Can somebody please fix this? Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.25.2.144 ( talk • contribs) 23:29, 27 November 2006.
The text read:
At the this database (also used as a ref in the article), there are the following homicide numbers collected by the HPD:
To average 600 murders for the decade of the 1980s, you need a total of 6000. 6000-702-457-408-323-440-459 = 3211. The remaining 4 years (1980, 1981, 1983, and 1984) must average 802.75 per year. However, this does not follow the trend. Plus, the population of Houston was smaller in the 1980s, so this is even less likely. Plus, we already know that the peak year was 1991, with 608 (and it was pretty much the peak nationwide. Deleting both dubious claims. Ufwuct 21:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
This and this source are not the easiest-to-verify sources, but they back up the claim (see Houston, Texas#Crime). On the list, the 17 cities with populations above 250,000 that had a higher murder rate than Houston in 2005 were:
Found source for claim of Murder Capital (though comparisons to other cities are not given) [1]. 701 in 1981. Still, this is 25 years ago. I don't think this is particularly relevant now, given the ups and downs since then. Ufwuct 22:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
This image review is part of WikiProject Houston, an attempt to better organize information in articles related to the city of Houston. The following images may have problems with tagging, licensing, or adherence to WP:FUC.
cohesion 21:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
The skyscrapers found in Houston are not so defining to the city so as to necessitate three paragraphs in the main article.
For analogous reasons no other major city has an architecture section in the article (least of all a lengthy one like this has), though many have links to their own "architecture of {city}" articles. I tried to do that here, but was reverted because the section and the split off article weren't the same. I propose to put all of the information in the split off article and remove it completely from this one. I really don't think there's any space for a dicussion of something that already should have been subsumed into the "Cityscape" section as with every other city.-- Loodog 19:55, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
I have created User Boxes (all though there are other) that you can use.
Here is the link: Here I am always working on more.
also the link is on my sig under "UBX"
--' •Tbon e 55• (Talk) (Contribs) (UBX) 16:43, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Please see proposal December 27, 2006/Featured article nomination at Wikipedia:WikiProject Houston/Administration. Thank you, Postoak 20:34, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
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This article is far too long, over twice the recommended length. Even the New York City article is 8kb shorter than this. This negatively affects readability and really needs to be trimmed. If there are long sections that should be kept, they get their own articles. A few suggestions on reducing length:
-- Loodog 03:05, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I created the Tallest buildings in Texas article quite a while ago hoping someone from Houston would find it and fill in the blank spots. I'm assuming the blank spots belong to Houston.. some might be San Antonio's, or at least, farther down the list. Any help would be appreciated.
Also, if anyone is interested, I've started WikiProject Dallas to organize work on City of Dallas articles. drumguy8800 C T 14:27, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know where to find a source to back up the claim that Kerry won the city of Houston? I've posted on this talk page as well, with no response so far. The claim sounds reasonable, but it still needs a source. Otherwise, I'm afraid it will have to be deleted from this article. Thanks. Ufwuct 16:01, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was No consensus. While, personally, I favor the proposal, this really comes close to WP:POINT. If LA didn't pass, Houston et al. certainly won't . This becomes a waste of time for all of us, and I urge the discussion to be continued at WP:NC or wherever, to reach a global consensus. Future polls of this nature might be closed per WP:SNOW. Duja 07:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Like Chicago, New York City, and Philadelphia, the three largest and most famous cities in Texas certainly don't need to be disambiguated by state, and using the city name only (without , Texas) in each is consistent with WP:NC(CN), and consistent with the Wikipedia convention used for almost all other large cities in the world. In each case, the name alone page redirects to the city article, so there are no ambiguity issues. Serge 18:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Please vote on whether to support or oppose all three moves. Add * '''Support''' or * '''Oppose''' on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.
Add any additional comments:
Will, whether every city is to be changed is a separate issue. The issue here is whether these three city articles are to be changed. All Wikipedia naming conventions are established, changed and evolved at the individual article level. They are documented as guidelines -- that allow for exceptions -- that reflect the conventions, not the other way around. The only way to change a naming convention is to, well, change names contrary to the convention! Conventions aren't determined by voting - they are determined by consensus in behavior, particularly by decisions made at the individual article level. -- Serge 21:12, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
To all interested parties, I have made a proposal that we change the guidelines so that 27 of the 30 cities that the AP Style Book says to use without the state in datelines should do so in their wikipedia article title as well, over at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements). I hope anyone interested in this issue will head over there and express their opinion. john k 03:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
(Cut off while doing my edit summary): I removed a paragraph from the Economy section because it was duplicated elsewhere (in History section and Demographics section). Ufwuct 16:56, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I removed the image of the Astrodome ([[Image:Picture_of_Reliant_Astrodome.JPG|250px|left|thumb|[[Reliant Astrodome|The Astrodome]]]]) for space and formatting reasons. We do have enough images in this article. As we cut down on article size (but reducing unnecessary text), we may need to remove 1 or 2 more. Perhaps this image would fit well under History of Houston, Culture of Houston, or Architecture of Houston. Ufwuct 17:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
There is a survey in progress at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements) to determine if there is consensus on a proposed change to the U.S. city naming conventions to be consistent with other countries, in particular Canada. -- Serge 05:44, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I can't figure out how to correct the density numbers in the right sidebar, which are clearly wrong by about half. Divide the population number by land area in the same sidebar and get about 3,480/sq.mile or 1,343/sq.km. Can somebody please fix this? Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.25.2.144 ( talk • contribs) 23:29, 27 November 2006.
The text read:
At the this database (also used as a ref in the article), there are the following homicide numbers collected by the HPD:
To average 600 murders for the decade of the 1980s, you need a total of 6000. 6000-702-457-408-323-440-459 = 3211. The remaining 4 years (1980, 1981, 1983, and 1984) must average 802.75 per year. However, this does not follow the trend. Plus, the population of Houston was smaller in the 1980s, so this is even less likely. Plus, we already know that the peak year was 1991, with 608 (and it was pretty much the peak nationwide. Deleting both dubious claims. Ufwuct 21:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
This and this source are not the easiest-to-verify sources, but they back up the claim (see Houston, Texas#Crime). On the list, the 17 cities with populations above 250,000 that had a higher murder rate than Houston in 2005 were:
Found source for claim of Murder Capital (though comparisons to other cities are not given) [1]. 701 in 1981. Still, this is 25 years ago. I don't think this is particularly relevant now, given the ups and downs since then. Ufwuct 22:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
This image review is part of WikiProject Houston, an attempt to better organize information in articles related to the city of Houston. The following images may have problems with tagging, licensing, or adherence to WP:FUC.
cohesion 21:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
The skyscrapers found in Houston are not so defining to the city so as to necessitate three paragraphs in the main article.
For analogous reasons no other major city has an architecture section in the article (least of all a lengthy one like this has), though many have links to their own "architecture of {city}" articles. I tried to do that here, but was reverted because the section and the split off article weren't the same. I propose to put all of the information in the split off article and remove it completely from this one. I really don't think there's any space for a dicussion of something that already should have been subsumed into the "Cityscape" section as with every other city.-- Loodog 19:55, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
I have created User Boxes (all though there are other) that you can use.
Here is the link: Here I am always working on more.
also the link is on my sig under "UBX"
--' •Tbon e 55• (Talk) (Contribs) (UBX) 16:43, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Please see proposal December 27, 2006/Featured article nomination at Wikipedia:WikiProject Houston/Administration. Thank you, Postoak 20:34, 27 December 2006 (UTC)