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I removed the following sentence:
Though maybe amusing, noble families in that period all had invented phantasy origins, primarily Trojan or sth like that. This is nothing notable or important. Skäpperöd ( talk) 15:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Your personal dislike or amusement regarding the information is not an argument for deleting sourced information. The article should present a balanced view, and shouldn't be based on soley German sources.-- Molobo ( talk) 15:34, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I added passage about "Polish histography" since I know books in Polish so it seemed fair to me to put it in this way. If Skäpperöd know German books on this subject and they say the same thing than deletion of "Polish histography" is fully understandable. Wroman ( talk) 10:20, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Dear Skäpperöd, many thanks for your work and commitment and analytical view. I know that it is not easy on the historical Wiki. You are absolutely right. Kind regards, S v Pomm
I see no good arguments for this move. / Pieter Kuiper ( talk) 18:25, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
The lead tries to contain more information than it should and is poorly written. Take this sentence for example:
"After vassalage to Bolesław III Wrymouth of Poland from 1121 to 1135, the dynasty entered Henry the Lion's Duchy of Saxony in 1164, and passed to the Holy Roman Emperor in 1181; they remained vassals of the Emperor thereafter, except for a Danish period from the late 1180s to 1227."
Now this makes it seem as if the family moved to Saxony in 1164, and were personal vassals and not lord of a feudal state. Anyway, I moved most of it to the body. Tinynanorobots ( talk) 17:30, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
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Rather than asking for help to move this to House of Griffins, a page which already is occupied by a redirect, an editor invented this name, including a "the", which is to be found nowhere else in English literature as the name of this dynasty. Lead text and bolding now make no sense. I'm usually willing to update such text when somebody does a move and doesn't bother with follow-up, but find it useless to do so now. Should be moved to the redirect page, and this page can be deleted. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 04:34, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
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I removed the following sentence:
Though maybe amusing, noble families in that period all had invented phantasy origins, primarily Trojan or sth like that. This is nothing notable or important. Skäpperöd ( talk) 15:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Your personal dislike or amusement regarding the information is not an argument for deleting sourced information. The article should present a balanced view, and shouldn't be based on soley German sources.-- Molobo ( talk) 15:34, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I added passage about "Polish histography" since I know books in Polish so it seemed fair to me to put it in this way. If Skäpperöd know German books on this subject and they say the same thing than deletion of "Polish histography" is fully understandable. Wroman ( talk) 10:20, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Dear Skäpperöd, many thanks for your work and commitment and analytical view. I know that it is not easy on the historical Wiki. You are absolutely right. Kind regards, S v Pomm
I see no good arguments for this move. / Pieter Kuiper ( talk) 18:25, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
The lead tries to contain more information than it should and is poorly written. Take this sentence for example:
"After vassalage to Bolesław III Wrymouth of Poland from 1121 to 1135, the dynasty entered Henry the Lion's Duchy of Saxony in 1164, and passed to the Holy Roman Emperor in 1181; they remained vassals of the Emperor thereafter, except for a Danish period from the late 1180s to 1227."
Now this makes it seem as if the family moved to Saxony in 1164, and were personal vassals and not lord of a feudal state. Anyway, I moved most of it to the body. Tinynanorobots ( talk) 17:30, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
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Administrator, please help!
Rather than asking for help to move this to House of Griffins, a page which already is occupied by a redirect, an editor invented this name, including a "the", which is to be found nowhere else in English literature as the name of this dynasty. Lead text and bolding now make no sense. I'm usually willing to update such text when somebody does a move and doesn't bother with follow-up, but find it useless to do so now. Should be moved to the redirect page, and this page can be deleted. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 04:34, 13 January 2016 (UTC)