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Linux supports CPU hot plugging, but the article claims that CPUs are only cold swappable. See https://events.static.linuxfound.org/sites/events/files/lcjpcojp13_fenghua.pdf for explanation of CPU hot plugging. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.41.22.94 ( talk) 15:25, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
The Blade server article says Blade servers are ideal for specific purposes such as web hosting and cluster computing. Individual blades are typically hot-swappable, which doesn't appear to fit with the hot swap versus plug distinction (interaction with software) in this article. Also, the article is talking about components of a computer whereas a blade server is a computer component of a cluster of computers. 78.146.78.223 ( talk) 12:51, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Somehow a names needs to be chosen and hot swap and hot swapping need to be combined. Kail Ceannai 21:52, 2005 May 12 (UTC)
It says PS/2 is not hot-swappable, but this is not true. I can hot-swap my keyboard and mouse on my Linux box. 70.52.147.11 00:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
In the section where true hotswappable and hotswappable where the OS must be notified by the user are compared, FireWire is used as an example of both types. Does anyone know which side is the correct one to place FireWire? I guess it should be on the "hot" side, as USB, but I'm not sure.
I was looking for information on how these work: are they reliable, do they slow down the drive? It would be great if someone who knows about this filled in some info on these devices. I know pretty much nothing about it, so I won't even try to mention them.
There are two aspects here: one is whether the device(s) break, and the other is whether they work. Devices that are not designed to hot swap may permanently break if plugged or unplugged while powered (example: PS/2). Devices that are designed to hot swap generally have hardware and software aspects. The user can assume that plugging and unplugged while powered will not break them. (Example: USB) But whether they will instantly, automatically "just work" all depends on many factors -- YMMV. - 69.87.204.161 01:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
The sentence: "More complex implementations may recommend that the component be shut down, but there is sufficient redundancy in the system such that if a component is removed without being shut down, operation continues."
This seems a bit confusing to me however I want to avoid altering the meaning by changing the sentence structure. Does the following sound OK?
"Whilst more complex implementations may recommend that the component be shut down, there is usually sufficient redundancy to allow operation to continue uninterrupted while the component is taken offline." Sardaukar86 22:38, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I changed some minor parts of the article, I think it no longer deserves the cleanup tag. However, as there are hardly any refs (I added the only one), i included the refimprove tag. Anyone who has some good sources on this field should look into this, the article seems solid otherwise Meertn ( talk) 11:16, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Its not fully answered in the article introduction although hot plugging is redirected to this article -- demus wiesbaden ( talk) 00:11, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
I posted a question on hot swapping at Talk:Serial ATA:
Something that's not obvious from this article or the article on
hot swapping... maybe someone can comment here, find cites, or update the articles with useful information.
SATA itself by design is hot swappable, and yet there is minimal to no clear answer in these articles as to when and under what conditions a user can actually use that capability. For example:
A comprehensive answer (either here or added to the article) would be useful, thanks. |
FT2 (
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How to make XP recognise a hotplugged PS/2 mouse ? It does not detect it. I also tried the "Scan for new Hardware" option in Device Manager, but no results.
Xerces8 ( talk) 09:55, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Maybe this should be merged into hot swapping? I've only been able to find three usable references. I also removed part of the lead that was copied from page 20 of LPI Linux Certification in a Nutshell. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 09:55, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Done. The coldplug article has now been merged into the hot swapping article. Still needs some post-merge cleanup ... -- DavidCary ( talk) 00:57, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Questions about the changes you made removing my additions. I would like to correct whatever they are so we improve this page. Perhaps you can help. I have access to source material on this topic from and including some of the people who worked creating the technology.The content was factual and key to the subject. Not having it is one of the reasons Wikipedia receives much criticism. Please help. Deansmith750 ( talk) 16:45, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
Just a detail: The use of the Sun SPARCstation 4/5/20 cradle (picture) may not be correct. To my knowledge from e.g. Solaris 9, hot-plugging of a drive requires (in addition to SCA-2) the SCSI bus to be "quiescent", but this is not possible if the root filesystem uses that bus. So, with only one SCSI bus, hot-plugging is not possible. A HDD with a SPUD bracket makes more sense. -- Mopskatze ( talk) 00:24, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
A notice should be made that, with USB, while USB drives can be plugged and unplugged without physical problems, it can corrupt the file system. USB mass storage has to be ejected or dismounted before unplugging it. USB Media Transfer Protocol devices however don't become corrupt if unplugging during writes. Please write up properly and include this information in the article. -- Error ( talk) 21:54, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
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Linux supports CPU hot plugging, but the article claims that CPUs are only cold swappable. See https://events.static.linuxfound.org/sites/events/files/lcjpcojp13_fenghua.pdf for explanation of CPU hot plugging. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.41.22.94 ( talk) 15:25, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
The Blade server article says Blade servers are ideal for specific purposes such as web hosting and cluster computing. Individual blades are typically hot-swappable, which doesn't appear to fit with the hot swap versus plug distinction (interaction with software) in this article. Also, the article is talking about components of a computer whereas a blade server is a computer component of a cluster of computers. 78.146.78.223 ( talk) 12:51, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Somehow a names needs to be chosen and hot swap and hot swapping need to be combined. Kail Ceannai 21:52, 2005 May 12 (UTC)
It says PS/2 is not hot-swappable, but this is not true. I can hot-swap my keyboard and mouse on my Linux box. 70.52.147.11 00:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
In the section where true hotswappable and hotswappable where the OS must be notified by the user are compared, FireWire is used as an example of both types. Does anyone know which side is the correct one to place FireWire? I guess it should be on the "hot" side, as USB, but I'm not sure.
I was looking for information on how these work: are they reliable, do they slow down the drive? It would be great if someone who knows about this filled in some info on these devices. I know pretty much nothing about it, so I won't even try to mention them.
There are two aspects here: one is whether the device(s) break, and the other is whether they work. Devices that are not designed to hot swap may permanently break if plugged or unplugged while powered (example: PS/2). Devices that are designed to hot swap generally have hardware and software aspects. The user can assume that plugging and unplugged while powered will not break them. (Example: USB) But whether they will instantly, automatically "just work" all depends on many factors -- YMMV. - 69.87.204.161 01:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
The sentence: "More complex implementations may recommend that the component be shut down, but there is sufficient redundancy in the system such that if a component is removed without being shut down, operation continues."
This seems a bit confusing to me however I want to avoid altering the meaning by changing the sentence structure. Does the following sound OK?
"Whilst more complex implementations may recommend that the component be shut down, there is usually sufficient redundancy to allow operation to continue uninterrupted while the component is taken offline." Sardaukar86 22:38, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I changed some minor parts of the article, I think it no longer deserves the cleanup tag. However, as there are hardly any refs (I added the only one), i included the refimprove tag. Anyone who has some good sources on this field should look into this, the article seems solid otherwise Meertn ( talk) 11:16, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Its not fully answered in the article introduction although hot plugging is redirected to this article -- demus wiesbaden ( talk) 00:11, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
I posted a question on hot swapping at Talk:Serial ATA:
Something that's not obvious from this article or the article on
hot swapping... maybe someone can comment here, find cites, or update the articles with useful information.
SATA itself by design is hot swappable, and yet there is minimal to no clear answer in these articles as to when and under what conditions a user can actually use that capability. For example:
A comprehensive answer (either here or added to the article) would be useful, thanks. |
FT2 (
Talk |
email) 10:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
How to make XP recognise a hotplugged PS/2 mouse ? It does not detect it. I also tried the "Scan for new Hardware" option in Device Manager, but no results.
Xerces8 ( talk) 09:55, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Maybe this should be merged into hot swapping? I've only been able to find three usable references. I also removed part of the lead that was copied from page 20 of LPI Linux Certification in a Nutshell. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 09:55, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Done. The coldplug article has now been merged into the hot swapping article. Still needs some post-merge cleanup ... -- DavidCary ( talk) 00:57, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Questions about the changes you made removing my additions. I would like to correct whatever they are so we improve this page. Perhaps you can help. I have access to source material on this topic from and including some of the people who worked creating the technology.The content was factual and key to the subject. Not having it is one of the reasons Wikipedia receives much criticism. Please help. Deansmith750 ( talk) 16:45, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
Just a detail: The use of the Sun SPARCstation 4/5/20 cradle (picture) may not be correct. To my knowledge from e.g. Solaris 9, hot-plugging of a drive requires (in addition to SCA-2) the SCSI bus to be "quiescent", but this is not possible if the root filesystem uses that bus. So, with only one SCSI bus, hot-plugging is not possible. A HDD with a SPUD bracket makes more sense. -- Mopskatze ( talk) 00:24, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
A notice should be made that, with USB, while USB drives can be plugged and unplugged without physical problems, it can corrupt the file system. USB mass storage has to be ejected or dismounted before unplugging it. USB Media Transfer Protocol devices however don't become corrupt if unplugging during writes. Please write up properly and include this information in the article. -- Error ( talk) 21:54, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 22 August 2022 and 16 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): BenCaseyKSU ( article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by BenCaseyKSU ( talk) 22:54, 1 December 2022 (UTC)