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The result of the move request was: consensus to move the page back to
Honeyst, per the discussion below. Please note that this could also have been accomplished through a request to revert an undiscussed move at
WP:RMTR.
Dekimasuよ! 23:52, 4 March 2018 (UTC)reply
HONEYST →
Honeyst – Unless this is an acronym/initialism,
WP:MOSTM clearly states that articles should conform to standard English formatting and capitalization, despite the trademark owner's usage. I can find no evidence that this is an acronym. This should be moved back.
Evaders99 (
talk) 03:13, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Question: Are there any independent reliable sources that discuss the topic (preferably in English, preferably in detail)? Note that
MOS:TM says "Do not invent new styles that are not used by independent sources." On the other hand, perhaps "
Honeyst" should be considered the default here, since this is a request to revert a recent undiscussed move. —
BarrelProof (
talk) 05:17, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
That is the request, yes. As to your question on sources... no, they are either primary sources of the company or unreliable news sites (Allkpop) per
WP:KO/RS. This is pretty standard for Kpop groups sadly - they ignore most English conventions like
BIGBANG,
INFINITE, or
SHINee.
Evaders99 (
talk) 05:25, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Yeah but it's ONE OF THOSE crazy websites that just LOVES CAPS
In ictu oculi (
talk) 18:06, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Support – not an acronym, and the proposed alternative is found in the kpop press as noted above.
Dicklyon (
talk) 06:49, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Agree: Should be moved to
Honeyst as the name is not an acronym and the Hangul (허니스트) directly translates as heoniseuteu showing zero initialisms.
Abdotorg (
talk) 12:45, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Support Honeyst, not an acronym
In ictu oculi (
talk) 18:06, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Support: This is the same case with English spelling of
Twice (band). Thanks. --
Garam (
talk) 20:33, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: consensus to move the page back to
Honeyst, per the discussion below. Please note that this could also have been accomplished through a request to revert an undiscussed move at
WP:RMTR.
Dekimasuよ! 23:52, 4 March 2018 (UTC)reply
HONEYST →
Honeyst – Unless this is an acronym/initialism,
WP:MOSTM clearly states that articles should conform to standard English formatting and capitalization, despite the trademark owner's usage. I can find no evidence that this is an acronym. This should be moved back.
Evaders99 (
talk) 03:13, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Question: Are there any independent reliable sources that discuss the topic (preferably in English, preferably in detail)? Note that
MOS:TM says "Do not invent new styles that are not used by independent sources." On the other hand, perhaps "
Honeyst" should be considered the default here, since this is a request to revert a recent undiscussed move. —
BarrelProof (
talk) 05:17, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
That is the request, yes. As to your question on sources... no, they are either primary sources of the company or unreliable news sites (Allkpop) per
WP:KO/RS. This is pretty standard for Kpop groups sadly - they ignore most English conventions like
BIGBANG,
INFINITE, or
SHINee.
Evaders99 (
talk) 05:25, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Yeah but it's ONE OF THOSE crazy websites that just LOVES CAPS
In ictu oculi (
talk) 18:06, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Support – not an acronym, and the proposed alternative is found in the kpop press as noted above.
Dicklyon (
talk) 06:49, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Agree: Should be moved to
Honeyst as the name is not an acronym and the Hangul (허니스트) directly translates as heoniseuteu showing zero initialisms.
Abdotorg (
talk) 12:45, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Support Honeyst, not an acronym
In ictu oculi (
talk) 18:06, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Support: This is the same case with English spelling of
Twice (band). Thanks. --
Garam (
talk) 20:33, 27 February 2018 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.