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The only source aboutHMI is a book published by HMI! IMO this doesn't demonstrate notability. The remainder of the sources have been added to verify information about holistic management, or the numbers of farms run by women in the USA. Sionk ( talk) 14:24, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
In researching the organisation I've come across a number of different entities: [1], [2]
Anyone know how all these groups interrelate.-- Salix ( talk): 21:50, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Redddbaron ( talk) 09:37, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
At least for now. HMI does work in cooperation with the USDA, that establishes a certain level of notability. I will try to sort the confusion starting tomorrow, and will also see if more international notability can be established or not. I will also work on the reference issues if possible. Maybe even see if I can bring this article up to WIKI standards. We will see. Give me a couple days to see what I can drag up please. I may change my vote if no one can find anything more. Redddbaron ( talk) 05:08, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
I removed these from the external links section, because they are not HMI and are probably inappropriate.
I added this to the about section.
It should show a non primary POV (although not necessarily neutral) and also help establish some notability. Redddbaron ( talk) 17:31, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
I added this to the grants section with book reference (Africa: Continent of Economic Opportunities page 165)
References
Am undertaking a bit of a clean-up while this is at AFD. I've removed a couple of fairly valueless references and am moving some here. These are references which might be of some value in either making a case for notability or as citations for various things. Some were included in the article but referenced unrelated things or were duplicates:
I'll add notes as I go to track what I've done. Stalwart 111 03:21, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
How do we incorporate this fact sheet? Redddbaron ( talk • contribs) 06:44, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
"This is now a regional office of HMI" was added with a 2009 reference. (before the split) It should probably be removed unless a reference AFTER the split can be found. ie 2010 or later Redddbaron ( talk) 17:31, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
I guess the thing is to ask if it has reached a level of quality that it no longer needs deleted? Redddbaron ( talk) 21:34, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
While Allan Savory and Jody Butterfield were original founders, they left in 2009. Key people now include Peter Holter, Ann Adams, Frank Aragona, Matt Parrack, Sandy Langelier — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.247.65.70 ( talk) 16:10, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
This suggestion was made by me and inadvertently unsigned
69.247.65.70 ( talk) 18:41, 2 July 2013 (UTC) Peter Holter, CEO - HMI Holistic Management International
HMI Awarded $537,101 grant to train Beginning Women Farmers in the Northeast and Texas August 31, 2012
Based upon the success of our Beginning Farmers & Ranchers: Women in the Northeast program, the USDA NIFA Beginning Farmer & Rancher Development Program (BFRDP) is awarding us a grant to continue our work in the Northeast and expand the program to Texas.
This 3-year grant, “Growing Successful Transitions with Beginning Women Farmer Programs in the Northeast and Texas, #2012-49400-19673,” will result in 360 beginning women farmers trained in whole farm planning and drafting a whole farm plan. The grant will continue to build further capacity in the Northeast and pilot a project in Austin, Texas where there is demand among beginning women farmers. HMI’s Holistic Management® whole farm/ranch planning curriculum focuses on business planning skills, time management, soil fertility management, and profitable sustainable livestock and crop farming practices.
HMI's non-profit mission is to educate people to manage land for a sustainable future. The organization believes people count, healthy land is essential, and money matters.
Thank you 69.247.65.70 ( talk) 23:22, 1 July 2013 (UTC) Peter Holter, CEO HMI - Holistic Management International
http://www.bizjournals.com/albuquerque/news/2012/07/13/holistic-management-to-train-360-women.html
NIFA Press Release… http://www.csrees.usda.gov/newsroom/newsletters/pdfs/07_09_12_nifa_news.pdf 5.70|talk]]) 18:38, 2 July 2013 (UTC)Peter 69.247.65.70 ( talk) 17:45, 8 July 2013 (UTC)Peter Holter
Thank you - yes we continue to work internationally primarily through our network of 50 Certified Educators worldwide, appreciate your interest and will continue to provide sourced material to you. Peter 69.247.65.70 ( talk) 22:37, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
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The only source aboutHMI is a book published by HMI! IMO this doesn't demonstrate notability. The remainder of the sources have been added to verify information about holistic management, or the numbers of farms run by women in the USA. Sionk ( talk) 14:24, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
In researching the organisation I've come across a number of different entities: [1], [2]
Anyone know how all these groups interrelate.-- Salix ( talk): 21:50, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Redddbaron ( talk) 09:37, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
At least for now. HMI does work in cooperation with the USDA, that establishes a certain level of notability. I will try to sort the confusion starting tomorrow, and will also see if more international notability can be established or not. I will also work on the reference issues if possible. Maybe even see if I can bring this article up to WIKI standards. We will see. Give me a couple days to see what I can drag up please. I may change my vote if no one can find anything more. Redddbaron ( talk) 05:08, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
I removed these from the external links section, because they are not HMI and are probably inappropriate.
I added this to the about section.
It should show a non primary POV (although not necessarily neutral) and also help establish some notability. Redddbaron ( talk) 17:31, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
I added this to the grants section with book reference (Africa: Continent of Economic Opportunities page 165)
References
Am undertaking a bit of a clean-up while this is at AFD. I've removed a couple of fairly valueless references and am moving some here. These are references which might be of some value in either making a case for notability or as citations for various things. Some were included in the article but referenced unrelated things or were duplicates:
I'll add notes as I go to track what I've done. Stalwart 111 03:21, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
How do we incorporate this fact sheet? Redddbaron ( talk • contribs) 06:44, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
"This is now a regional office of HMI" was added with a 2009 reference. (before the split) It should probably be removed unless a reference AFTER the split can be found. ie 2010 or later Redddbaron ( talk) 17:31, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
I guess the thing is to ask if it has reached a level of quality that it no longer needs deleted? Redddbaron ( talk) 21:34, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
While Allan Savory and Jody Butterfield were original founders, they left in 2009. Key people now include Peter Holter, Ann Adams, Frank Aragona, Matt Parrack, Sandy Langelier — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.247.65.70 ( talk) 16:10, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
This suggestion was made by me and inadvertently unsigned
69.247.65.70 ( talk) 18:41, 2 July 2013 (UTC) Peter Holter, CEO - HMI Holistic Management International
HMI Awarded $537,101 grant to train Beginning Women Farmers in the Northeast and Texas August 31, 2012
Based upon the success of our Beginning Farmers & Ranchers: Women in the Northeast program, the USDA NIFA Beginning Farmer & Rancher Development Program (BFRDP) is awarding us a grant to continue our work in the Northeast and expand the program to Texas.
This 3-year grant, “Growing Successful Transitions with Beginning Women Farmer Programs in the Northeast and Texas, #2012-49400-19673,” will result in 360 beginning women farmers trained in whole farm planning and drafting a whole farm plan. The grant will continue to build further capacity in the Northeast and pilot a project in Austin, Texas where there is demand among beginning women farmers. HMI’s Holistic Management® whole farm/ranch planning curriculum focuses on business planning skills, time management, soil fertility management, and profitable sustainable livestock and crop farming practices.
HMI's non-profit mission is to educate people to manage land for a sustainable future. The organization believes people count, healthy land is essential, and money matters.
Thank you 69.247.65.70 ( talk) 23:22, 1 July 2013 (UTC) Peter Holter, CEO HMI - Holistic Management International
http://www.bizjournals.com/albuquerque/news/2012/07/13/holistic-management-to-train-360-women.html
NIFA Press Release… http://www.csrees.usda.gov/newsroom/newsletters/pdfs/07_09_12_nifa_news.pdf 5.70|talk]]) 18:38, 2 July 2013 (UTC)Peter 69.247.65.70 ( talk) 17:45, 8 July 2013 (UTC)Peter Holter
Thank you - yes we continue to work internationally primarily through our network of 50 Certified Educators worldwide, appreciate your interest and will continue to provide sourced material to you. Peter 69.247.65.70 ( talk) 22:37, 12 July 2013 (UTC)