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The result of the move request was not moving. No consensus to move, this discussion has gone nowhere. I'd advise Sonetnoir to refrain from personal attacks. GrooveDog FOREVER 01:35, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Hitar Petar →
Sly Peter — The name of this folk character should be presented in English. The title suggests that his ethnicity is Bulgarian (even though the article is neutral to his ethnicity) due to the fact that the name "Hitar Petar" is the Bulgarian version of this famous folk character. If we rename/translate the page into Sly Peter, the ethnicity of this character is back to being neutral, as it should be.--
Sonetnoir (
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As per the the two important points made by TodorBozhinov...
...I am moving this article to Itar Pejo. -- ДушкоДолгоушко ( talk) 05:32, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Please both User:Anti political shills and User:Gaylordbush69 stop this game. If you simply disagree with someone's actions in an article, discuss it on the article talk page or related pages. If mere discussion fails to resolve a problem, look into dispute resolution. Thankyou. Jingiby ( talk) 19:09, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
why is a character based off macedonia and actively gained fame thanks to macedonians but you people use bulgarian sources? im not even trying to argue that hitar petar is bulgarian or macedonian because at the end of the day its literally a 16 century ottoman troll, but a character from macedonian origins should at least use macedonian sources to maybe help expand this article into a better representation, one thing ive noticed that the country of origins always write more in detail about their heroes, like with germans they document the germans way more better, but instead of looking at more macedonian sources which might help expand his backstory, and even linking some of the books and maybe even letters, its thrown out, it makes this wiki look more Bulgarian POV, doesn't help with the fact that the spelling of the article is in bulgarian, despite the character being set in modern day macedonia
Plus i think at least some of his well known stories should be added, such as the teddy bear bomb he made in the middle of the village, the time he pushed turks in the water behind their backs, or how he danced with someones boots, these are instant classics and are both referenced in macedonian and bulgarian folk culture, if an average english man comes to this wiki all they see is some macedo-bulgar who did some funny tricks, but the reason he became famous was because of his creative tricks which completely flies over the average english readers head
Before Jingsby or some pro-bulgarian comes to argue about the first topic i wanna just clear up and share my definition of macedonian in this case :
Macedonian - a person born in ottoman macedonia who used macedonian dialects to communicate
i am in no way trying to suggest that hitar petar is macedonian because keep in mind, this is literally a meme character in macedonian folk culture. not an actual important historical figure Gurther ( talk) 01:19, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was not moving. No consensus to move, this discussion has gone nowhere. I'd advise Sonetnoir to refrain from personal attacks. GrooveDog FOREVER 01:35, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Hitar Petar →
Sly Peter — The name of this folk character should be presented in English. The title suggests that his ethnicity is Bulgarian (even though the article is neutral to his ethnicity) due to the fact that the name "Hitar Petar" is the Bulgarian version of this famous folk character. If we rename/translate the page into Sly Peter, the ethnicity of this character is back to being neutral, as it should be.--
Sonetnoir (
talk) 05:10, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
As per the the two important points made by TodorBozhinov...
...I am moving this article to Itar Pejo. -- ДушкоДолгоушко ( talk) 05:32, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Please both User:Anti political shills and User:Gaylordbush69 stop this game. If you simply disagree with someone's actions in an article, discuss it on the article talk page or related pages. If mere discussion fails to resolve a problem, look into dispute resolution. Thankyou. Jingiby ( talk) 19:09, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
why is a character based off macedonia and actively gained fame thanks to macedonians but you people use bulgarian sources? im not even trying to argue that hitar petar is bulgarian or macedonian because at the end of the day its literally a 16 century ottoman troll, but a character from macedonian origins should at least use macedonian sources to maybe help expand this article into a better representation, one thing ive noticed that the country of origins always write more in detail about their heroes, like with germans they document the germans way more better, but instead of looking at more macedonian sources which might help expand his backstory, and even linking some of the books and maybe even letters, its thrown out, it makes this wiki look more Bulgarian POV, doesn't help with the fact that the spelling of the article is in bulgarian, despite the character being set in modern day macedonia
Plus i think at least some of his well known stories should be added, such as the teddy bear bomb he made in the middle of the village, the time he pushed turks in the water behind their backs, or how he danced with someones boots, these are instant classics and are both referenced in macedonian and bulgarian folk culture, if an average english man comes to this wiki all they see is some macedo-bulgar who did some funny tricks, but the reason he became famous was because of his creative tricks which completely flies over the average english readers head
Before Jingsby or some pro-bulgarian comes to argue about the first topic i wanna just clear up and share my definition of macedonian in this case :
Macedonian - a person born in ottoman macedonia who used macedonian dialects to communicate
i am in no way trying to suggest that hitar petar is macedonian because keep in mind, this is literally a meme character in macedonian folk culture. not an actual important historical figure Gurther ( talk) 01:19, 16 January 2023 (UTC)