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I'm no expert in this area but this looks like an inconsistency:
This looks like an error. How many delegates were there - 13 or 53? Kidburla ( talk) 13:57, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
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Shouldn't the section "Feminist Views" rather belong to the article Feminism in China? It seems randomly put on this page. Ideology of the Communist Party of China might also be a better fit (it is views, after all). In addition, the section has quite a few language and content issues. I tried taking a stab at fixing them, but I didn't know where to begin. For example, it starts by calling Xiang Jingyu the most prominent female leader in the party, even though there are other candidates for that title. Moreover, it speculates that Xiang's influence in the party was the result of her relationships with male leaders, which would seem to marginalize her own efforts. I've inserted tags to highlight these problems. 92.34.154.78 ( talk) 15:40, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
One person, anonymous, said it should go. Unacceptable. -- GwydionM ( talk) 07:40, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Feminism in China has a lot less. And some people hate to admit that the Chinese Communists did the main work, even though it is a solid fact. -- GwydionM ( talk) 07:47, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
It does need a rewrite. Inaccurate on several points - it tended to be male leaders marrying women who were already prominent in their own right. I will do this over the next few days.-- GwydionM ( talk) 07:48, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The Feminist Views section has now been successfully incorporated into the article on the party's ideology: Ideology of the Communist Party of China. There, editors have started to address the problems with language and content, making it conform to encyclopedic standards. Thus, it would be natural to at this point remove the section from the present article, since it has now obviously found a better home. Again, it's a section on feminist views, which by definition has more to do with the ideology of the party rather than its history. Thoughts? I don't think the section can exist in two different articles simultaneously. 92.34.150.1 ( talk) 18:43, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
I have now moved all the material to a new article, referenced here. Hope this pleases everyone. I also covered the matter of what the CPC did once in power, not well covered as things were. -- GwydionM ( talk) 09:05, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
The consensus is against having a "Feminist views" section in this article because editors find the section to be out of place in this article. Editors suggested incorporating the content into other sections of History of the Communist Party of China or moving the content to Feminism in China or Ideology of the Communist Party of China. None of these suggested moves achieved a consensus. There is no prejudice against boldly moving the material and further discussion if any of the moves are disputed.
Should the section "Feminist Views" belong to the article on the party's history, the one about the party's ideology, or both? 92.34.140.29 ( talk) 11:09, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
The result of the RfC was that the section was developed into a new article: Feminism in Chinese Communism. 92.34.150.47 ( talk) 00:11, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Dozens of books agree that Comintern agents inspired it, but Chen Duxiu and Li Dazhao recruited most of the membership. That they were the founders.
Someone just tried to change it, in favour of what is probably some crackpot anti-Communist book. Not clear if it even merits a mention. At best, it is an eccentric claim.
-- GwydionM ( talk) 07:12, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
I have now added a reputable and neutral source. Tidied the existing details.-- GwydionM ( talk) 09:48, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
I was also surprised at the obsession with Grigori Voitinsky. Is it relevant that he was Jewish, whereas most of the foreign advisers of Chinese Communism were not?-- GwydionM ( talk) 09:59, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
The most recent change is acceptable, since it does not try to wipe out the main history. -- GwydionM ( talk) 08:25, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
There was interest in Marxism in China from 1900: see Chinese Marxist philosophy
When it was learned that the Russian Revolution had succeeded and was Marxist, there was an interest in copying it. But the idea of an actual Leninist party was introduced by foreigners. And then there was a process of assembling various regional groups that were interested. Only from 1921 did they actually form a Communist Party.
An alternative would have been a Marxist faction within the Kuomintang, which the Kuomintang wanted. CPC members joining the Kuomintang but keeping their own party was agreed with difficulty, and broke down in 1927.
-- GwydionM ( talk) 10:17, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
an introduction to the article and a summary of its most important contents( MOS:LEAD), which the current lead (
This article details the history of the Chinese Communist Party) is completely insufficient.
I replaced a reference to overthrowing the Beiyang government. The warlords who dominated around Beijing were not tackled until 1928, after the Kuomintang broke with the Communists. It was aided by the Kuomintang no longer seeming so radical to the Western powers and to right-wing Chinese.
What had happened in 1927 was clearing a path from Guangzhou (Canton) to Nanking and Shanghai. This meant defeating warlords who nominally recognised the Beijing government, but were independent powers. GwydionM ( talk) 07:57, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
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I'm no expert in this area but this looks like an inconsistency:
This looks like an error. How many delegates were there - 13 or 53? Kidburla ( talk) 13:57, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
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Shouldn't the section "Feminist Views" rather belong to the article Feminism in China? It seems randomly put on this page. Ideology of the Communist Party of China might also be a better fit (it is views, after all). In addition, the section has quite a few language and content issues. I tried taking a stab at fixing them, but I didn't know where to begin. For example, it starts by calling Xiang Jingyu the most prominent female leader in the party, even though there are other candidates for that title. Moreover, it speculates that Xiang's influence in the party was the result of her relationships with male leaders, which would seem to marginalize her own efforts. I've inserted tags to highlight these problems. 92.34.154.78 ( talk) 15:40, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
One person, anonymous, said it should go. Unacceptable. -- GwydionM ( talk) 07:40, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Feminism in China has a lot less. And some people hate to admit that the Chinese Communists did the main work, even though it is a solid fact. -- GwydionM ( talk) 07:47, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
It does need a rewrite. Inaccurate on several points - it tended to be male leaders marrying women who were already prominent in their own right. I will do this over the next few days.-- GwydionM ( talk) 07:48, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The Feminist Views section has now been successfully incorporated into the article on the party's ideology: Ideology of the Communist Party of China. There, editors have started to address the problems with language and content, making it conform to encyclopedic standards. Thus, it would be natural to at this point remove the section from the present article, since it has now obviously found a better home. Again, it's a section on feminist views, which by definition has more to do with the ideology of the party rather than its history. Thoughts? I don't think the section can exist in two different articles simultaneously. 92.34.150.1 ( talk) 18:43, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
I have now moved all the material to a new article, referenced here. Hope this pleases everyone. I also covered the matter of what the CPC did once in power, not well covered as things were. -- GwydionM ( talk) 09:05, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
The consensus is against having a "Feminist views" section in this article because editors find the section to be out of place in this article. Editors suggested incorporating the content into other sections of History of the Communist Party of China or moving the content to Feminism in China or Ideology of the Communist Party of China. None of these suggested moves achieved a consensus. There is no prejudice against boldly moving the material and further discussion if any of the moves are disputed.
Should the section "Feminist Views" belong to the article on the party's history, the one about the party's ideology, or both? 92.34.140.29 ( talk) 11:09, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
The result of the RfC was that the section was developed into a new article: Feminism in Chinese Communism. 92.34.150.47 ( talk) 00:11, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Dozens of books agree that Comintern agents inspired it, but Chen Duxiu and Li Dazhao recruited most of the membership. That they were the founders.
Someone just tried to change it, in favour of what is probably some crackpot anti-Communist book. Not clear if it even merits a mention. At best, it is an eccentric claim.
-- GwydionM ( talk) 07:12, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
I have now added a reputable and neutral source. Tidied the existing details.-- GwydionM ( talk) 09:48, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
I was also surprised at the obsession with Grigori Voitinsky. Is it relevant that he was Jewish, whereas most of the foreign advisers of Chinese Communism were not?-- GwydionM ( talk) 09:59, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
The most recent change is acceptable, since it does not try to wipe out the main history. -- GwydionM ( talk) 08:25, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
There was interest in Marxism in China from 1900: see Chinese Marxist philosophy
When it was learned that the Russian Revolution had succeeded and was Marxist, there was an interest in copying it. But the idea of an actual Leninist party was introduced by foreigners. And then there was a process of assembling various regional groups that were interested. Only from 1921 did they actually form a Communist Party.
An alternative would have been a Marxist faction within the Kuomintang, which the Kuomintang wanted. CPC members joining the Kuomintang but keeping their own party was agreed with difficulty, and broke down in 1927.
-- GwydionM ( talk) 10:17, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
an introduction to the article and a summary of its most important contents( MOS:LEAD), which the current lead (
This article details the history of the Chinese Communist Party) is completely insufficient.
I replaced a reference to overthrowing the Beiyang government. The warlords who dominated around Beijing were not tackled until 1928, after the Kuomintang broke with the Communists. It was aided by the Kuomintang no longer seeming so radical to the Western powers and to right-wing Chinese.
What had happened in 1927 was clearing a path from Guangzhou (Canton) to Nanking and Shanghai. This meant defeating warlords who nominally recognised the Beijing government, but were independent powers. GwydionM ( talk) 07:57, 6 October 2023 (UTC)