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As of October 2014, this article seriously gives undue weight to "positive" aspects. According to the head of a Libertarian think tank, the situation has improves, because according to a set of criteria designed by a Libertarian think tank and their assessment of it, Somalia now scores higher than before. The article goes on to discuss those in detail. As discussed earlier on the talk page, the article talks by comparison very little about all the problems Somalia is facing. The fact that a very large part of Somalis still live abroad, that most of the country is unsafe, and that, at the latest measurement, it had the 4th lowest HDI in the world, are not or not much discussed. This article needs serious improvement and is certainly not a "Good article". -- Gerrit C U T E D H 18:51, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
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I'll take the liberty of impersonating Captain Obvious and point out that the article's title is "History of Somalia (1991–2006)". While there's some decent content concerning various aspects of society & the situation in Somalia, there is one glaringly obvious omission: any chronology of events during this time!! To understand what is missing from this article, see Somali Civil War#Timeline and read until the section "USC/SSA (1995–2000)" (the following section jumps forward to 2006-2009). Again this article is about the history of Somalia between 1991-2006.
There's no mention of the UN mission along with related humanitarian and military missions in Somalia during this time period. This is a significant aspect of the country's history during the period (Fails WP:GAC 3a). A sizeable chronology of events during this time period must be included in this article for it to be at GA status.
I see that this article was previously "Anarchy in Somalia", but the scope of most articles is defined by the title. Per WP:PRECISION: "titles should be precise enough to unambiguously define the topical scope of the article". The title clearly indicates this article is about the history of Somalia during that period. Furthermore, it is clear that the prose of this article reflects the former title/scope. However, for many sections that means that the content is not written in a neutral point-of-view. Specifically, it gives undue weight to minority viewpoints: several sections focus on positive aspects of the lack of a central government rather than providing a balanced evaluation of the situation, for example:
Regarding balance, the article quotes articles (just to pick a couple examples) from the reliable New York Times and Economist that paint a positive picture of the economic situation, but those articles are balanced when noting the risks involved.
I don't have the time to examine every source, but I feel certain many other quotes have been used to include statements into this article that may match the source, but have been taken out of context to present a positive picture.
There is a fair amount of unsourced content. There are also sources that come from biased sources; while such sources can be used on WP, it is important to consider what they are supporting. Given all the other significant issues with this article, I don't feel like taking time to examine sources to check this.
The lead does not follow the guidelines in WP:Lead. It has content that does not appear elsewhere in the article and does not adequately summarize the article's content. There is one instance of "Powell et al. (2006)" (in the "Rule of Law" section); the citation style must be consistent in the article.
Additionally, one of the GA criteria is that "Well written: the prose is clear and concise". This article uses an excessive amount of quotes and names the source in the prose. A limited amount of this is ok, when necessary. However, in many places a source named in the prose combined with a quote is not appropriate (that's what the citation footnote is for!). Examples:
Overquoting is covered by WP:QUOTEFARM, specifically:
Other notes (which don't fit into the GA criteria as a reason to demote the article, they're just comments about issues that need to be fixed):
The former article name may explain why the article is written like it is, but is not an excuse for the article to be in an NPOV manner or not focused on the article's topic. This article clearly does not meet the Good Article criteria. I will give it the usual 7 days for comments before closing. AHeneen ( talk) 07:41, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
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As of October 2014, this article seriously gives undue weight to "positive" aspects. According to the head of a Libertarian think tank, the situation has improves, because according to a set of criteria designed by a Libertarian think tank and their assessment of it, Somalia now scores higher than before. The article goes on to discuss those in detail. As discussed earlier on the talk page, the article talks by comparison very little about all the problems Somalia is facing. The fact that a very large part of Somalis still live abroad, that most of the country is unsafe, and that, at the latest measurement, it had the 4th lowest HDI in the world, are not or not much discussed. This article needs serious improvement and is certainly not a "Good article". -- Gerrit C U T E D H 18:51, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
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I'll take the liberty of impersonating Captain Obvious and point out that the article's title is "History of Somalia (1991–2006)". While there's some decent content concerning various aspects of society & the situation in Somalia, there is one glaringly obvious omission: any chronology of events during this time!! To understand what is missing from this article, see Somali Civil War#Timeline and read until the section "USC/SSA (1995–2000)" (the following section jumps forward to 2006-2009). Again this article is about the history of Somalia between 1991-2006.
There's no mention of the UN mission along with related humanitarian and military missions in Somalia during this time period. This is a significant aspect of the country's history during the period (Fails WP:GAC 3a). A sizeable chronology of events during this time period must be included in this article for it to be at GA status.
I see that this article was previously "Anarchy in Somalia", but the scope of most articles is defined by the title. Per WP:PRECISION: "titles should be precise enough to unambiguously define the topical scope of the article". The title clearly indicates this article is about the history of Somalia during that period. Furthermore, it is clear that the prose of this article reflects the former title/scope. However, for many sections that means that the content is not written in a neutral point-of-view. Specifically, it gives undue weight to minority viewpoints: several sections focus on positive aspects of the lack of a central government rather than providing a balanced evaluation of the situation, for example:
Regarding balance, the article quotes articles (just to pick a couple examples) from the reliable New York Times and Economist that paint a positive picture of the economic situation, but those articles are balanced when noting the risks involved.
I don't have the time to examine every source, but I feel certain many other quotes have been used to include statements into this article that may match the source, but have been taken out of context to present a positive picture.
There is a fair amount of unsourced content. There are also sources that come from biased sources; while such sources can be used on WP, it is important to consider what they are supporting. Given all the other significant issues with this article, I don't feel like taking time to examine sources to check this.
The lead does not follow the guidelines in WP:Lead. It has content that does not appear elsewhere in the article and does not adequately summarize the article's content. There is one instance of "Powell et al. (2006)" (in the "Rule of Law" section); the citation style must be consistent in the article.
Additionally, one of the GA criteria is that "Well written: the prose is clear and concise". This article uses an excessive amount of quotes and names the source in the prose. A limited amount of this is ok, when necessary. However, in many places a source named in the prose combined with a quote is not appropriate (that's what the citation footnote is for!). Examples:
Overquoting is covered by WP:QUOTEFARM, specifically:
Other notes (which don't fit into the GA criteria as a reason to demote the article, they're just comments about issues that need to be fixed):
The former article name may explain why the article is written like it is, but is not an excuse for the article to be in an NPOV manner or not focused on the article's topic. This article clearly does not meet the Good Article criteria. I will give it the usual 7 days for comments before closing. AHeneen ( talk) 07:41, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
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