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Initial commentsThis article appears to be well-referenced, well-illustrated, and fairly comprehensive in scope. I took an instant dislike to the prose in the WP:lead and there are some one-sentence and two-sentence paragraphs; but article as a whole is probably GA-material. I will continue the review, section by section, but leaving the WP:lead (with its instantly dislikeable prose) until last. Pyrotec ( talk) 21:29, 12 September 2009 (UTC) At present I'm only concentrating on "problems"; so if I don't mention a section that probably means that I regard it as compliant with WP:WIAGA. I'm sorry if this comes across as "negative"; but the good points only do get mentioned at the end of this review.
Overall summaryGA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria Quite a comprehensive summary of the History of Hertfordshire & well referenced.
This is a good article and I'm awarding GA-status. It has taken some time to review it and I've made a few critical comments above, however considering the length of the article these were not all the significant. Congratulations on the quality of the article. Pyrotec ( talk) 20:39, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
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I'm part of WP:HERTS and have no experience of this sort of article at FA, so I don't think I'm the best person to give the prose itself a balanced, objective look. For that reason I don't want to be the first person to post on the peer review, for fear that someone better suited will see these comments and decide not to review. Nonetheless, here are a few things I've picked up on my wikitravels that should help:
I think the content needed for an FA is probably all there. The weight given to the various parts of its history is excellent, and the referencing is also very good. The main things that should be scrutinised are the MoS, and the grammar and tense of the prose.—Preceding unsigned comment added by WFCforLife ( talk • contribs)
I liked it. Rare is an article which is not only well documented but also interesting.
I'm a stickler for comma use, so I went ahead and fixed three small errant commas in the article.
As to content, I would raise only two points. At note 64, you say something like this: "There was an attempt to assassinate the king." Rather than saying "There was . . .," I think a better phrasing would be to use the actor as the subject and an action verb. That is, "A group of landowners attempted to kill the king." Is it known who was behind the attempt?
Second, I see that some other people have commented about one-sentence paragraphs. I wonder if a correction of that did not produce the paragraph at note 71. that paragraph begins with the topic sentence saying that brewing was becoming popular in the area. Then, the whole rest of the paragraph has to do with witch trials. Were those things linked in some way? Perhaps cut the first sentence free again and add a follow up line about the volumes of beer that were being brewed or something.
I hope these comments are not too pedantic. I'm new to peer reviewing anything. Also, I am totally in the dark about formatting for notes, so I've not even attempted to weigh in on those. ProfReader ( talk) 16:35, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Personally I prefer shorter paragraphs, with one topic per paragraph, and I would much prefer to de-merge several of the paragraphs in the article. So many editors think otherwise, though, that I see little alternative but to tolerate the several mixed and run-on paragraphs. :\— S Marshall Talk/ Cont 16:42, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Okie dokie. But, the errant commas weren't Oxford (serial) commas. A serial comma (which is optional) precedes a conjunction linking items in a series of three or more. For example, I bought eggs, bacon(,) and cheese. The problems that I changed were not that. They were examples of simple sentences with dual verbs. For example: John ran and played. There is no comma before the word "and" in that sentence. You only use a comma there if it is a compound sentence; that is, you use a comma only if you have two independent clauses joined by a coordinating conjunction. For example: John ran, and he played.
The "and about ten percent of the aircraft workers in England worked in Hertfordshire in the 1960s" fact for the post-war section seems unremarkable. How about replacing this with mention of the de Havilland Comet, the world's first commercial jet airliner and a proud part of Hatfield's history. Colin° Talk 20:04, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Per WP:LEAD (see "Links" section):
Ground Zero | t 01:32, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Just had a look at this article. The image of Kings Weir is wrong. It is in fact is located in Essex close to the county boundary with Hertfordshire at Wormley, Herts on the The River Lee Navigation. I intend to remove the image from the article. If that is OK. ( Northmetpit ( talk) 09:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC)).
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Initial commentsThis article appears to be well-referenced, well-illustrated, and fairly comprehensive in scope. I took an instant dislike to the prose in the WP:lead and there are some one-sentence and two-sentence paragraphs; but article as a whole is probably GA-material. I will continue the review, section by section, but leaving the WP:lead (with its instantly dislikeable prose) until last. Pyrotec ( talk) 21:29, 12 September 2009 (UTC) At present I'm only concentrating on "problems"; so if I don't mention a section that probably means that I regard it as compliant with WP:WIAGA. I'm sorry if this comes across as "negative"; but the good points only do get mentioned at the end of this review.
Overall summaryGA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria Quite a comprehensive summary of the History of Hertfordshire & well referenced.
This is a good article and I'm awarding GA-status. It has taken some time to review it and I've made a few critical comments above, however considering the length of the article these were not all the significant. Congratulations on the quality of the article. Pyrotec ( talk) 20:39, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
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I'm part of WP:HERTS and have no experience of this sort of article at FA, so I don't think I'm the best person to give the prose itself a balanced, objective look. For that reason I don't want to be the first person to post on the peer review, for fear that someone better suited will see these comments and decide not to review. Nonetheless, here are a few things I've picked up on my wikitravels that should help:
I think the content needed for an FA is probably all there. The weight given to the various parts of its history is excellent, and the referencing is also very good. The main things that should be scrutinised are the MoS, and the grammar and tense of the prose.—Preceding unsigned comment added by WFCforLife ( talk • contribs)
I liked it. Rare is an article which is not only well documented but also interesting.
I'm a stickler for comma use, so I went ahead and fixed three small errant commas in the article.
As to content, I would raise only two points. At note 64, you say something like this: "There was an attempt to assassinate the king." Rather than saying "There was . . .," I think a better phrasing would be to use the actor as the subject and an action verb. That is, "A group of landowners attempted to kill the king." Is it known who was behind the attempt?
Second, I see that some other people have commented about one-sentence paragraphs. I wonder if a correction of that did not produce the paragraph at note 71. that paragraph begins with the topic sentence saying that brewing was becoming popular in the area. Then, the whole rest of the paragraph has to do with witch trials. Were those things linked in some way? Perhaps cut the first sentence free again and add a follow up line about the volumes of beer that were being brewed or something.
I hope these comments are not too pedantic. I'm new to peer reviewing anything. Also, I am totally in the dark about formatting for notes, so I've not even attempted to weigh in on those. ProfReader ( talk) 16:35, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Personally I prefer shorter paragraphs, with one topic per paragraph, and I would much prefer to de-merge several of the paragraphs in the article. So many editors think otherwise, though, that I see little alternative but to tolerate the several mixed and run-on paragraphs. :\— S Marshall Talk/ Cont 16:42, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Okie dokie. But, the errant commas weren't Oxford (serial) commas. A serial comma (which is optional) precedes a conjunction linking items in a series of three or more. For example, I bought eggs, bacon(,) and cheese. The problems that I changed were not that. They were examples of simple sentences with dual verbs. For example: John ran and played. There is no comma before the word "and" in that sentence. You only use a comma there if it is a compound sentence; that is, you use a comma only if you have two independent clauses joined by a coordinating conjunction. For example: John ran, and he played.
The "and about ten percent of the aircraft workers in England worked in Hertfordshire in the 1960s" fact for the post-war section seems unremarkable. How about replacing this with mention of the de Havilland Comet, the world's first commercial jet airliner and a proud part of Hatfield's history. Colin° Talk 20:04, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Per WP:LEAD (see "Links" section):
Ground Zero | t 01:32, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Just had a look at this article. The image of Kings Weir is wrong. It is in fact is located in Essex close to the county boundary with Hertfordshire at Wormley, Herts on the The River Lee Navigation. I intend to remove the image from the article. If that is OK. ( Northmetpit ( talk) 09:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC)).
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