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What about the C1 scooter thing? I think it's deleted now, but should it not be mentioned (even if it makes "real" BMW riders go puce with rage!)? :) See http://www.bmw.co.uk/features/C1/index.html if they haven't removed it yet ... 138.37.199.199 12:07, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
This article needs tense cleanup. In places it's discussing events in the distant past using present tense. Quicksilver 12:58, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
I have cleaned up the tense, revised some of the grammar and added the C1 info. The 80's Kid 16:18, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Categories: should this really be in the BMW Vehicles category? Shouldn't it go in the Motorcycles category, and perhaps BMW Motorcycles sub-category? -- Pi3832 14:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Discussion of the difference between the airhead and oilhead would be useful -- as well as the other modifications, which I recall were rather substantial, made at the same time. At a minimum, the year the air-to-oil shift in R-bikes should be noted. MrRedwood 03:40, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
After discussion of the Paralever and Telelever suspensions, shouldn't there be an item for the Duolever (recently developed front-end suspension for K-series bikes)? -- Davecampbell 02:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC) (2002 R1150RTP)
I agree that the title should be BMW motorcycles or Motorcycles. Not many people on in he US know what motorrad means. Also, I agree with the Duolever suggestion. -- Rodendahl 16:09, 15 July 2006 (CDT)
Cleaned up a tad of vandalism. Jdos2 23:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I just removed some blank lines that had been added to get text to flow around some images. Using blank lines is futile because what you are doing is fixing the problem for your browser, with your thumbnail size settings, with your screen resolution. Anyone else with different settings will see a completely different result. Summary: It is highly unlikely that anyone will see the article in exactly the same way that you do.
If it is really important that text and image are separated from each other then you can use one of a number of templates or break commands:
However, I have never been able to get {{Clearleft}} to work so I tend to use the following HTML code:
I have added this on the page after the K-series engine section and just before the Model Designation section. This is where I removed the series of blank lines and I assume it is what the orginal editor was trying to achieve.
IMHO these breaks/clears should only be used when absolutely necessary, but they are a useful tool when used sparsely and appropriately. -- Cheesy Mike 08:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
This article states, that BMW's "... logo, a roundel representing an aeroplane propeller in the blue sky ..." Alas, this is not quite true.
In Mobil Tradition Live, published by BMW Motorrad, Issue 01.2005, in an article written by Dr. Florian Triebel, and entitled "The origin of the BMW logo — fact and fiction,"[spam://jeff.dean.home.att.net/roundel-myth.pdf] the myth of the spinning propeller as the origin of the BMW logo was put to bed as the myth it is. Here is the summary of a long article:
Accordingly, I corrected this information. Jeff dean 23:17, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to take out "after World War I, the Treaty of Versailles banned any German air force, so the company turned to motorcycle engine design and manufacturing" since it's highly misleading (not to say needlessly insulting). Almost every manufacturer in every country stopped war production once the war was over, both in WWI and WWII. There is no shame (or relevance) in BMW having done so and becoming strikingly successful in two new fields. TomRawlinson 18:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
M-72 makes many valuable and interesting claims in numerous motorcycle-related articles about arcane matters and then issues them as facts without citations. In spite of this, it appears that we all accept whatever he submits to be accurate. Because of the importance of the claims, I would like to see citations for these items when inserted — either in the article or related discussion pages — so I and others can consult those sources and inform ourselves better. Jeff dean 14:12, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Ever been to Chin or India? Or any other part of Asia? BMWs are NOT the common police motorcycle. The sheer volume of indigenous police motorcycles in China alone makes BMWs's claim farcical. The claim may be "well-known", but that does not make it a fact. M-72 23:41, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
The article uses both K-Series and K Series, I think it should be one or the other. This is IMHO a language thing however, so I leave it to the native speakers (I don't care either way). -- 87.189.116.19
The article repeats information a lot, once organized in the timeline, once in the series description, it should be one or the other. ("These new F 800 Series motorcycles are powered by [...] a belt drive system that is very similar to the belt drive found on the now defunct F 650 CS." vs. "[F 800 S and F 800 ST] also feature a belt drive system similar to what was in use on the F 650 CS.")
I think I prefer the series, as this can also pull in some techincal stuff like Duolever. -- 87.189.116.19
Your change on BMW motorcycles might not be the best thing to do: The picture you replaced was defected by someone who is a bit pissed at the moment, but should easily be fixed by a non-IP (eg. you). Could you please have a look at Gss-600.jpg, restore the valid version and decide then whether DK-MIL-POL2.jpg is a better choice? Thanks. -- 193.254.155.48
The following pictures were already flagged for speedy deletion because User:Jeff dean set them to the same nothingness. Please recreate the pictures from history.
My apology to all for my Wikibehaviour last week. It was uncalled for. Jeff dean 23:50, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Once again I have removed the thumbnail size from the image in the K bikes section. It doesn't need a size on it. Rodendahl says on my talk page that if the thumb tag is removed the caption disappears. That is standard image behaviour, but removing the size doesn't affect the caption - just look at all the other images. Removing the size from a thumbnail lets it be displayed at the size specified in a user's preferences page. As for the image in the R bikes section which has a pixel size attached to it - the one of the 4 cylinder heads - that is to show off the detail. Personally I would be in favour of removing the size off that image as well. -- Cheesy Mike 03:39, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Rodendahl just changed all the image sizes (other than the logo and "headline" image) to be consistent. That is a good move and fully in line with WP:MOS recommendations. I certainly don't concur with any assertion that what he did was vandalism and am disappointed by the bad feeling that was created as a result. -- Cheesy Mike 14:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Lets not perpetuate the BMW Logo propeller myth. The BMW elaborates on the factual history of the logo, as does The BMW Trademark article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 842U ( talk • contribs) 14:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Hey Mike, fine then, but where is the substantiation on the "propeller" story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 842U ( talk • contribs) 17:59, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
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![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 |
What about the C1 scooter thing? I think it's deleted now, but should it not be mentioned (even if it makes "real" BMW riders go puce with rage!)? :) See http://www.bmw.co.uk/features/C1/index.html if they haven't removed it yet ... 138.37.199.199 12:07, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
This article needs tense cleanup. In places it's discussing events in the distant past using present tense. Quicksilver 12:58, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
I have cleaned up the tense, revised some of the grammar and added the C1 info. The 80's Kid 16:18, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Categories: should this really be in the BMW Vehicles category? Shouldn't it go in the Motorcycles category, and perhaps BMW Motorcycles sub-category? -- Pi3832 14:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Discussion of the difference between the airhead and oilhead would be useful -- as well as the other modifications, which I recall were rather substantial, made at the same time. At a minimum, the year the air-to-oil shift in R-bikes should be noted. MrRedwood 03:40, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
After discussion of the Paralever and Telelever suspensions, shouldn't there be an item for the Duolever (recently developed front-end suspension for K-series bikes)? -- Davecampbell 02:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC) (2002 R1150RTP)
I agree that the title should be BMW motorcycles or Motorcycles. Not many people on in he US know what motorrad means. Also, I agree with the Duolever suggestion. -- Rodendahl 16:09, 15 July 2006 (CDT)
Cleaned up a tad of vandalism. Jdos2 23:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I just removed some blank lines that had been added to get text to flow around some images. Using blank lines is futile because what you are doing is fixing the problem for your browser, with your thumbnail size settings, with your screen resolution. Anyone else with different settings will see a completely different result. Summary: It is highly unlikely that anyone will see the article in exactly the same way that you do.
If it is really important that text and image are separated from each other then you can use one of a number of templates or break commands:
However, I have never been able to get {{Clearleft}} to work so I tend to use the following HTML code:
I have added this on the page after the K-series engine section and just before the Model Designation section. This is where I removed the series of blank lines and I assume it is what the orginal editor was trying to achieve.
IMHO these breaks/clears should only be used when absolutely necessary, but they are a useful tool when used sparsely and appropriately. -- Cheesy Mike 08:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
This article states, that BMW's "... logo, a roundel representing an aeroplane propeller in the blue sky ..." Alas, this is not quite true.
In Mobil Tradition Live, published by BMW Motorrad, Issue 01.2005, in an article written by Dr. Florian Triebel, and entitled "The origin of the BMW logo — fact and fiction,"[spam://jeff.dean.home.att.net/roundel-myth.pdf] the myth of the spinning propeller as the origin of the BMW logo was put to bed as the myth it is. Here is the summary of a long article:
Accordingly, I corrected this information. Jeff dean 23:17, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to take out "after World War I, the Treaty of Versailles banned any German air force, so the company turned to motorcycle engine design and manufacturing" since it's highly misleading (not to say needlessly insulting). Almost every manufacturer in every country stopped war production once the war was over, both in WWI and WWII. There is no shame (or relevance) in BMW having done so and becoming strikingly successful in two new fields. TomRawlinson 18:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
M-72 makes many valuable and interesting claims in numerous motorcycle-related articles about arcane matters and then issues them as facts without citations. In spite of this, it appears that we all accept whatever he submits to be accurate. Because of the importance of the claims, I would like to see citations for these items when inserted — either in the article or related discussion pages — so I and others can consult those sources and inform ourselves better. Jeff dean 14:12, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Ever been to Chin or India? Or any other part of Asia? BMWs are NOT the common police motorcycle. The sheer volume of indigenous police motorcycles in China alone makes BMWs's claim farcical. The claim may be "well-known", but that does not make it a fact. M-72 23:41, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
The article uses both K-Series and K Series, I think it should be one or the other. This is IMHO a language thing however, so I leave it to the native speakers (I don't care either way). -- 87.189.116.19
The article repeats information a lot, once organized in the timeline, once in the series description, it should be one or the other. ("These new F 800 Series motorcycles are powered by [...] a belt drive system that is very similar to the belt drive found on the now defunct F 650 CS." vs. "[F 800 S and F 800 ST] also feature a belt drive system similar to what was in use on the F 650 CS.")
I think I prefer the series, as this can also pull in some techincal stuff like Duolever. -- 87.189.116.19
Your change on BMW motorcycles might not be the best thing to do: The picture you replaced was defected by someone who is a bit pissed at the moment, but should easily be fixed by a non-IP (eg. you). Could you please have a look at Gss-600.jpg, restore the valid version and decide then whether DK-MIL-POL2.jpg is a better choice? Thanks. -- 193.254.155.48
The following pictures were already flagged for speedy deletion because User:Jeff dean set them to the same nothingness. Please recreate the pictures from history.
My apology to all for my Wikibehaviour last week. It was uncalled for. Jeff dean 23:50, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Once again I have removed the thumbnail size from the image in the K bikes section. It doesn't need a size on it. Rodendahl says on my talk page that if the thumb tag is removed the caption disappears. That is standard image behaviour, but removing the size doesn't affect the caption - just look at all the other images. Removing the size from a thumbnail lets it be displayed at the size specified in a user's preferences page. As for the image in the R bikes section which has a pixel size attached to it - the one of the 4 cylinder heads - that is to show off the detail. Personally I would be in favour of removing the size off that image as well. -- Cheesy Mike 03:39, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Rodendahl just changed all the image sizes (other than the logo and "headline" image) to be consistent. That is a good move and fully in line with WP:MOS recommendations. I certainly don't concur with any assertion that what he did was vandalism and am disappointed by the bad feeling that was created as a result. -- Cheesy Mike 14:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Lets not perpetuate the BMW Logo propeller myth. The BMW elaborates on the factual history of the logo, as does The BMW Trademark article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 842U ( talk • contribs) 14:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Hey Mike, fine then, but where is the substantiation on the "propeller" story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 842U ( talk • contribs) 17:59, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
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