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Most Pakistanis living in the UK speak Urdu, and their families are often from Lahore and Karachi. Yet no part of Pakistan (save for a small strip over Sindh) is covered by the red area of the map in this article - and certainly not Lahore or Karachi. Why? BigSteve ( talk) 12:37, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
There is the saying, " A language is a dialect with an army and navy". Is this why Nepali is not categorized as a member of the Hindi family while other Pahari languages are? LADave ( talk) 19:02, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Is Hindi in the inclusive sense of this article a Macrolanguage? LADave ( talk) 19:05, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
2001.hindi.majority.png may be controversial as it shows J&K. Such maps are banned in India.
We should use
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Pahari languages' speakers don't identify their languages as mere dialects of Hindi. The map is very shallow and hence I am removing it. Simply saying Hindi is L1 without looking into what comes under it is wrong. Neither do people in Bihar call their language as dialect of Hindi. If you are going to point out the Indian Census, then Indian Census doesn't ask people if they consider their language as dialect or not. The map represents no one & spreads shhallow information about this country's diversity. The map in the infobox is also wrong. Bhojpuri, Rajasthani & Pahari languages are only political dialects; they don't share any linguistic history with today's Hindi. Therefore, that map too spreads wrong information & therefor I am removing it. I you want to show Hindi belt, simply include a map with states highlighted. Nik9hil ( talk) 17:24, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
(which doesn't reflects ground reality), also mentioning that certain languages have their status pending at 8th Schedule, without sources to support that is also unsourced commentary. This one is not reliable either. Anyway pinging @ Largoplazo, Austronesier, Kautilya3, Fowler&fowler, Kwamikagami, and RegentsPark: for suggestions. - Fylindfotberserk ( talk) 17:22, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
otherwise regarded as Hindi dialectsbit, your addition of "Himachali" was not backed up by the source (as it's not clear which Pahari it is referring to). Actually, I don't think this whole paragraph makes much sense. Yes, we need to mention the demands for official status, but surely we can do better than using as source this teeny-tiny current affairs report from 7 years ago that's likely long out of date. And the second part of the paragraph – there not going to be any Hindi left if Bhojpuri etc, get status – is complete rubbish. We don't need to report on any crazy view out there. – Uanfala (talk) 17:26, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
@ PadFoot2008: This is rather simplistic hence confusing in my opinion, since languages of Uttarakhand, Himachal Pradesh, are also considered Hindi languages, atleast by the Indian Census, secondly Maithili and the related Angika are not considered Hindi languages despite being Bihari languages, third unnecessary cluttering of short description which typically have to be short. Suggestions @ Austronesier:. - Fylindfotberserk ( talk) 16:24, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
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Most Pakistanis living in the UK speak Urdu, and their families are often from Lahore and Karachi. Yet no part of Pakistan (save for a small strip over Sindh) is covered by the red area of the map in this article - and certainly not Lahore or Karachi. Why? BigSteve ( talk) 12:37, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
There is the saying, " A language is a dialect with an army and navy". Is this why Nepali is not categorized as a member of the Hindi family while other Pahari languages are? LADave ( talk) 19:02, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Is Hindi in the inclusive sense of this article a Macrolanguage? LADave ( talk) 19:05, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
2001.hindi.majority.png may be controversial as it shows J&K. Such maps are banned in India.
We should use
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Please include actual drawing of the placement of the belt in india. The description is not enough. •
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05:11, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Pahari languages' speakers don't identify their languages as mere dialects of Hindi. The map is very shallow and hence I am removing it. Simply saying Hindi is L1 without looking into what comes under it is wrong. Neither do people in Bihar call their language as dialect of Hindi. If you are going to point out the Indian Census, then Indian Census doesn't ask people if they consider their language as dialect or not. The map represents no one & spreads shhallow information about this country's diversity. The map in the infobox is also wrong. Bhojpuri, Rajasthani & Pahari languages are only political dialects; they don't share any linguistic history with today's Hindi. Therefore, that map too spreads wrong information & therefor I am removing it. I you want to show Hindi belt, simply include a map with states highlighted. Nik9hil ( talk) 17:24, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
(which doesn't reflects ground reality), also mentioning that certain languages have their status pending at 8th Schedule, without sources to support that is also unsourced commentary. This one is not reliable either. Anyway pinging @ Largoplazo, Austronesier, Kautilya3, Fowler&fowler, Kwamikagami, and RegentsPark: for suggestions. - Fylindfotberserk ( talk) 17:22, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
otherwise regarded as Hindi dialectsbit, your addition of "Himachali" was not backed up by the source (as it's not clear which Pahari it is referring to). Actually, I don't think this whole paragraph makes much sense. Yes, we need to mention the demands for official status, but surely we can do better than using as source this teeny-tiny current affairs report from 7 years ago that's likely long out of date. And the second part of the paragraph – there not going to be any Hindi left if Bhojpuri etc, get status – is complete rubbish. We don't need to report on any crazy view out there. – Uanfala (talk) 17:26, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
@ PadFoot2008: This is rather simplistic hence confusing in my opinion, since languages of Uttarakhand, Himachal Pradesh, are also considered Hindi languages, atleast by the Indian Census, secondly Maithili and the related Angika are not considered Hindi languages despite being Bihari languages, third unnecessary cluttering of short description which typically have to be short. Suggestions @ Austronesier:. - Fylindfotberserk ( talk) 16:24, 27 June 2023 (UTC)