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Recently, the edits which I made in the 'Meaning' column were undid. What is the purpose of a 'Meaning' column? What does 'Meaning' mean? If the junction and the town next to it have the same name, it is pretty obvious that the junction was 'named after the location' and not the other way around.
On the Hebrew version of this page, there is no column for 'Meaning', nor is there any need for one. But this is the English language page with Hebrew names transliterated into the Latin alphabet. So what is the Meaning? To write 'named after location', when the location appears right there in the next column labled 'Location' is redundant.
I undid the undo of my edits. I don't wish for this to become a tug-of-war. I hope we can decide what the logical purpose of the 'Meaning' column should be. I, for one, think it should give more information to browsers who do not understand Hebrew.
When friends come to Israel, I always offer to take them sightseeing. They often ask the meaning of place names, especially while driving on the highway. Telling them that a junction is named for the nearby town tells them nothing. Telling them a junction with the same name as a nearby town is named for 'Moses Montefiore' who founded the town or the 'Sorek Stream' which means the stream of the choice vine enhances the experience. The wikipedia page should give as much 'meaningful information as possible. (There's that word 'meaning' again!) Atefrat ( talk) 11:28, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Ben-TzionMM ( משתמש:בן-ציוןממ) created wonderful maps for the major junctions for the Hebrew wikipedia version of this article. He published them with a share and attribute license (2.5). I have uploaded them to commons and placed them in this English version of Highway 1. They appear awfully small, but clicking on them will give a full-size view. -- @Efrat ( talk) 07:20, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
OK, 1 spelling mistake? Any others? Spelling can be fixed. As for the cockamamie translations, they are not as ludicrous as they may seem. First, whenever I greet visitors from Hu'l, they want to know what the names mean. (Not everyone is blessed like us to understand Hebrew.) More to the point, I try to tweek the definitions to give more than just the dictionary definition by linking the definition to its true target. Look at Tzomet Ramat Shlomo. The location links to the neighborhood, but the translation, Solomon's Hill, links to the person for whom it is named after. As for Berry, ultimately I would like it to link to an article about the Anabe Stream (when it is created and which will give an historical reason for its name.) You may want to edit the definitions or change the link target. But eliminating the entire column (which, by the way, has existed on Israeli Highway articles long before I started editing wikipedia) is just denying desired information to a very large group of non-Hebrew speaking people. -- @Efrat ( talk) 06:14, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
YH, GB, you're both speaking from the point of view of bilingual speakers. This is after all, English Wikipedia. The translations are relevant to people who don't have any Hebrew to fall back on. If you think the translations are incorrect, edit them. I am sure there is room for improvement. -- @Efrat ( talk) 08:31, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
A lot of new construction east of Jerusalem: highway widening and new junctions which, at the time of this edit, still do not appear on Google/Walla/Mapa Sattelite Views. I have added them. I also recently drove eastbound from Tel Aviv to Alon Junction. My passenger carefully noted the distances along the way. (My odometer is accurate based on other roads.) I discovered significant discrepancies in the list. The total was 77.3 km, not 75.5 as appears in the list. I will complete the trip between Alon Junction and Beit HaArava Junction and make corrections. I suspect the road is longer that we thought it was. -- @Efrat ( talk) 10:51, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
I noticed a problem in the designation of junctions accessed from only one side of the highway. Eg., "Kiryat Yearim Interchange" is only accessible from Highway 1 westbound. The exit is to Route 425 East. Placing the words (westbound only) under the local road (Route 425) doesn't make sense. (Westbound only) applies to the junction, not to the direction of the local road at the junction. I made adjustments to make more sense.
I have added a prose Route Description as per WikiProject Highways in the hopes of getting this article out of "Start Class". Verifiable references are implicitly provided by the coordinates leading to any number of maps and sattelite views making WP:NOR inapplicable. I also hope to reorganize parts of the rest of the article (without removing material - probably adding) to bring it up to standards. -- @Efrat ( talk) 09:10, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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— Ynhockey ( Talk) 01:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Recently, the edits which I made in the 'Meaning' column were undid. What is the purpose of a 'Meaning' column? What does 'Meaning' mean? If the junction and the town next to it have the same name, it is pretty obvious that the junction was 'named after the location' and not the other way around.
On the Hebrew version of this page, there is no column for 'Meaning', nor is there any need for one. But this is the English language page with Hebrew names transliterated into the Latin alphabet. So what is the Meaning? To write 'named after location', when the location appears right there in the next column labled 'Location' is redundant.
I undid the undo of my edits. I don't wish for this to become a tug-of-war. I hope we can decide what the logical purpose of the 'Meaning' column should be. I, for one, think it should give more information to browsers who do not understand Hebrew.
When friends come to Israel, I always offer to take them sightseeing. They often ask the meaning of place names, especially while driving on the highway. Telling them that a junction is named for the nearby town tells them nothing. Telling them a junction with the same name as a nearby town is named for 'Moses Montefiore' who founded the town or the 'Sorek Stream' which means the stream of the choice vine enhances the experience. The wikipedia page should give as much 'meaningful information as possible. (There's that word 'meaning' again!) Atefrat ( talk) 11:28, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Ben-TzionMM ( משתמש:בן-ציוןממ) created wonderful maps for the major junctions for the Hebrew wikipedia version of this article. He published them with a share and attribute license (2.5). I have uploaded them to commons and placed them in this English version of Highway 1. They appear awfully small, but clicking on them will give a full-size view. -- @Efrat ( talk) 07:20, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
OK, 1 spelling mistake? Any others? Spelling can be fixed. As for the cockamamie translations, they are not as ludicrous as they may seem. First, whenever I greet visitors from Hu'l, they want to know what the names mean. (Not everyone is blessed like us to understand Hebrew.) More to the point, I try to tweek the definitions to give more than just the dictionary definition by linking the definition to its true target. Look at Tzomet Ramat Shlomo. The location links to the neighborhood, but the translation, Solomon's Hill, links to the person for whom it is named after. As for Berry, ultimately I would like it to link to an article about the Anabe Stream (when it is created and which will give an historical reason for its name.) You may want to edit the definitions or change the link target. But eliminating the entire column (which, by the way, has existed on Israeli Highway articles long before I started editing wikipedia) is just denying desired information to a very large group of non-Hebrew speaking people. -- @Efrat ( talk) 06:14, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
YH, GB, you're both speaking from the point of view of bilingual speakers. This is after all, English Wikipedia. The translations are relevant to people who don't have any Hebrew to fall back on. If you think the translations are incorrect, edit them. I am sure there is room for improvement. -- @Efrat ( talk) 08:31, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
A lot of new construction east of Jerusalem: highway widening and new junctions which, at the time of this edit, still do not appear on Google/Walla/Mapa Sattelite Views. I have added them. I also recently drove eastbound from Tel Aviv to Alon Junction. My passenger carefully noted the distances along the way. (My odometer is accurate based on other roads.) I discovered significant discrepancies in the list. The total was 77.3 km, not 75.5 as appears in the list. I will complete the trip between Alon Junction and Beit HaArava Junction and make corrections. I suspect the road is longer that we thought it was. -- @Efrat ( talk) 10:51, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
I noticed a problem in the designation of junctions accessed from only one side of the highway. Eg., "Kiryat Yearim Interchange" is only accessible from Highway 1 westbound. The exit is to Route 425 East. Placing the words (westbound only) under the local road (Route 425) doesn't make sense. (Westbound only) applies to the junction, not to the direction of the local road at the junction. I made adjustments to make more sense.
I have added a prose Route Description as per WikiProject Highways in the hopes of getting this article out of "Start Class". Verifiable references are implicitly provided by the coordinates leading to any number of maps and sattelite views making WP:NOR inapplicable. I also hope to reorganize parts of the rest of the article (without removing material - probably adding) to bring it up to standards. -- @Efrat ( talk) 09:10, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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