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I added a photo. Is the placement good, or is this an improper use of the map attribute? Foobaz· o< 02:16, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
The first photo shown is beautiful but doesn't show what is unique about the interchange. This interchange has an exceptional number of overpasses but the photo readers see first makes it look like any other interchange. We should move this image down and put up a new image that shows the impressive depth of the interchange. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aylissa-S ( talk • contribs) 01:46, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Weren't there plans to tunnel I-635 underneath the High Five for about a quarter mile? I recall stumbling across some plans for such a thing at TxDOT back in 2000 or 2001. - Rolypolyman 06:38, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
The Cottonwood Trail was built as a part of the High Five, it runs under 75 and 635. I am not Wiki savvy so I have no idea how to incorporate this into the article. Here is a data sheet from the city of Dallas http://www.dallasparks.org/Downloads/Trails/cottonwood.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.233.178.254 ( talk) 17:14, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
A diagram would be nice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.243.188.172 ( talk) 01:53, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
The first paragraph of the lead section repeats too much of the first paragraph from the Description section. A Good Article's lead should summarize the rest of the article, not repeat it. Folklore1 ( talk) 16:41, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
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(This is the reason given by the American Public Works Association) As tall as a 12-story building, the massive concrete structure is relieving a bottleneck that has strangled city traffic for years. The Interchange consists of just under 60 lane miles of new roadway (comparable to the width of the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex), stretching 3.4 miles east and west and 2.4 miles north and south (equivalent to about 100 New York City blocks). At the intersection of Interstate 635 (LBJ Freeway) and U.S. 75 (North Central Expressway), the interchange is designed to improve traffic flow, driving conditions and safety for more than 500,000 commuters each day. It was completed 13 months ahead of its original 60-month construction schedule and replaces an outdated three-level modified partial cloverleaf interchange built in the 1960s. Through four years of construction, the project required more than 2.2 million cubic yards of earthwork, 350,000 cubic yards of concrete produced onsite, 300,000 square feet of retaining walls and 74,000 linear feet of drainage pipe. The effort also included construction of 37 permanent bridges and six temporary bridges, encompassing 2.3 million square feet of bridge deck.
MathewTownsend ( talk) 16:33, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
the 1st sentence gave a wrong impression saying it is 'the 1st built ever'... . i have changed it to a proper language. it is the '1st of dallas', and should be stated such. if anyone disagrees, please discuss here before consensus is made. HasperHunter ( talk) 15:33, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
The way the 1st sentence reads today is "The High Five Interchange is one of the first five-level stack interchanges built in Dallas, Texas." As far as I know, it is the only five-level interchange in Dallas. I thought the meaning of the first sentence was to say it was one of the first five-level interchanges built anywhere and it happens to be in Dallas, TX. If that is the case, I would propose: "The High Five Interchange is one of the first five-level stack interchanges." (then proceed with the 2nd sentence) "Built in Dallas, Texas, it is Located at the junction of the Lyndon B. Johnson Freeway (Interstate 635, I-635) and the Central Expressway (US Highway 75, US 75), it replaces an antiquated partial cloverleaf interchange constructed in the 1960s." Jameywiki ( talk) 17:14, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Someone has incorrectly added that this interchange was named after the celebratory gesture. My attempts to correct this inaccuracy were reverted, so I've added a failed verification tag. MathewTownsend ( talk) 20:24, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
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What is the current traffic volume? The stat given of 500,000 vehicles a day for the old interchange over 10 years ago is already pretty astounding. It must have been quite a large and complex interchange itself. Surely traffic is significantly higher now. For instance, a similarly sized interchange that was just completed in Miami-Dade Florida is quoted as 430,000 now, about or "over" 400,000 previously. Congestion was and is high through the interchange still, but that is a lot due to congestion on the to major expressways it junctions, despite also having up to 14 lanes, costing twice as much, having 45 bridges, and being four or five levels. B137 ( talk) 05:06, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
So the 635 has 14 regular highway lanes (10 "normal" and 4 express lanes), which is a lot but not extraordinary for a large suburban metro.But then the 75 and 635 have six lane frontage roads, all four directions (NSWE) having three through lanes. So counting the frontage lanes, since they are integral to Texas highway design, the 635 is a 20-lane freeway. That's record pushing for the US at least. LA is littered with freeways, but they are not quite that wide, up to 14 or 16 lanes, but all freeway no frontage counted. NYC and older metros have worse congestion and stats that would call for 20 lanes plus, but they are more urban and would have to use a vertically raised tarmac over the existing ones, which is often alluded to but never really done. South Florida/Miami area, the "forgotten metro" in terms of recognition of size and growth, is also pushing the boundaries of all their highways, with several up to 12 lanes and a max of 14 if counted dubiously, but with new express lane and Turnpike widening currently underway, could see a push to 16 or more. DFW and Houston have awful traffic and long commutes. They are worse than Miami as far as being physically larger, more spread out and suburban metros, but are actually no bigger in terms of population (all three are about six million). That may be a bit surprising, almost anybody would say DFW and Houston are "much larger" than Miami. Can't think of any other place that would have more than a 12-lane highway. B137 ( talk) 00:59, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
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I added a photo. Is the placement good, or is this an improper use of the map attribute? Foobaz· o< 02:16, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
The first photo shown is beautiful but doesn't show what is unique about the interchange. This interchange has an exceptional number of overpasses but the photo readers see first makes it look like any other interchange. We should move this image down and put up a new image that shows the impressive depth of the interchange. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aylissa-S ( talk • contribs) 01:46, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Weren't there plans to tunnel I-635 underneath the High Five for about a quarter mile? I recall stumbling across some plans for such a thing at TxDOT back in 2000 or 2001. - Rolypolyman 06:38, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
The Cottonwood Trail was built as a part of the High Five, it runs under 75 and 635. I am not Wiki savvy so I have no idea how to incorporate this into the article. Here is a data sheet from the city of Dallas http://www.dallasparks.org/Downloads/Trails/cottonwood.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.233.178.254 ( talk) 17:14, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
A diagram would be nice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.243.188.172 ( talk) 01:53, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
The first paragraph of the lead section repeats too much of the first paragraph from the Description section. A Good Article's lead should summarize the rest of the article, not repeat it. Folklore1 ( talk) 16:41, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
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(This is the reason given by the American Public Works Association) As tall as a 12-story building, the massive concrete structure is relieving a bottleneck that has strangled city traffic for years. The Interchange consists of just under 60 lane miles of new roadway (comparable to the width of the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex), stretching 3.4 miles east and west and 2.4 miles north and south (equivalent to about 100 New York City blocks). At the intersection of Interstate 635 (LBJ Freeway) and U.S. 75 (North Central Expressway), the interchange is designed to improve traffic flow, driving conditions and safety for more than 500,000 commuters each day. It was completed 13 months ahead of its original 60-month construction schedule and replaces an outdated three-level modified partial cloverleaf interchange built in the 1960s. Through four years of construction, the project required more than 2.2 million cubic yards of earthwork, 350,000 cubic yards of concrete produced onsite, 300,000 square feet of retaining walls and 74,000 linear feet of drainage pipe. The effort also included construction of 37 permanent bridges and six temporary bridges, encompassing 2.3 million square feet of bridge deck.
MathewTownsend ( talk) 16:33, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
the 1st sentence gave a wrong impression saying it is 'the 1st built ever'... . i have changed it to a proper language. it is the '1st of dallas', and should be stated such. if anyone disagrees, please discuss here before consensus is made. HasperHunter ( talk) 15:33, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
The way the 1st sentence reads today is "The High Five Interchange is one of the first five-level stack interchanges built in Dallas, Texas." As far as I know, it is the only five-level interchange in Dallas. I thought the meaning of the first sentence was to say it was one of the first five-level interchanges built anywhere and it happens to be in Dallas, TX. If that is the case, I would propose: "The High Five Interchange is one of the first five-level stack interchanges." (then proceed with the 2nd sentence) "Built in Dallas, Texas, it is Located at the junction of the Lyndon B. Johnson Freeway (Interstate 635, I-635) and the Central Expressway (US Highway 75, US 75), it replaces an antiquated partial cloverleaf interchange constructed in the 1960s." Jameywiki ( talk) 17:14, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Someone has incorrectly added that this interchange was named after the celebratory gesture. My attempts to correct this inaccuracy were reverted, so I've added a failed verification tag. MathewTownsend ( talk) 20:24, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
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What is the current traffic volume? The stat given of 500,000 vehicles a day for the old interchange over 10 years ago is already pretty astounding. It must have been quite a large and complex interchange itself. Surely traffic is significantly higher now. For instance, a similarly sized interchange that was just completed in Miami-Dade Florida is quoted as 430,000 now, about or "over" 400,000 previously. Congestion was and is high through the interchange still, but that is a lot due to congestion on the to major expressways it junctions, despite also having up to 14 lanes, costing twice as much, having 45 bridges, and being four or five levels. B137 ( talk) 05:06, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
So the 635 has 14 regular highway lanes (10 "normal" and 4 express lanes), which is a lot but not extraordinary for a large suburban metro.But then the 75 and 635 have six lane frontage roads, all four directions (NSWE) having three through lanes. So counting the frontage lanes, since they are integral to Texas highway design, the 635 is a 20-lane freeway. That's record pushing for the US at least. LA is littered with freeways, but they are not quite that wide, up to 14 or 16 lanes, but all freeway no frontage counted. NYC and older metros have worse congestion and stats that would call for 20 lanes plus, but they are more urban and would have to use a vertically raised tarmac over the existing ones, which is often alluded to but never really done. South Florida/Miami area, the "forgotten metro" in terms of recognition of size and growth, is also pushing the boundaries of all their highways, with several up to 12 lanes and a max of 14 if counted dubiously, but with new express lane and Turnpike widening currently underway, could see a push to 16 or more. DFW and Houston have awful traffic and long commutes. They are worse than Miami as far as being physically larger, more spread out and suburban metros, but are actually no bigger in terms of population (all three are about six million). That may be a bit surprising, almost anybody would say DFW and Houston are "much larger" than Miami. Can't think of any other place that would have more than a 12-lane highway. B137 ( talk) 00:59, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
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