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Cwmhiraeth (
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Created by Chetsford ( talk). Self-nominated at 17:52, 16 October 2020 (UTC).
Pinging nominator Chetsford. Need feedback from the community here.
First of all, I have concerns that the tone of the article is more tabloid than encyclopedic. We have some BLP issues in that article. What specifically jumped out at me was, "Senator Bob Packwood, meanwhile, is alleged to have sexually assaulted a woman in his hideaway" I don't even see Packwood's name in the source: 1 I went to Bob Packwood that claims, "a Washington Post story detailed claims of sexual abuse and assault from ten women", but the Washington Post source says, "unwanted sexual advances as reported by 10 women, mainly former staff members and lobbyists." 2 There's an ocean of difference between "unwanted sexual advances" and "sexual abuse and assault"
Just removed from the article by another editor was an external link "An image of Joe Biden in his hideaway", which was nothing more than Biden sitting in a chair in front of a table, with no one else visible.
Feedback, anyone? — Maile ( talk) 23:59, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Representative David R. Obey of Wisconsin sponsored an amendment to close down the then 78 Senate hideaway offices in response to a raft of sexual misconduct allegations. Congressional Quarterly Weekly Report Yoninah ( talk) 23:10, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
My personal opinion is that the quotation in the "In popular culture" section is accidentally misleading. The reference itself is fine, except that it quotes a *fictional* senator describing the traditions and usage of the Hideaways. Are the descriptions drawn from reality, or themselves fictional? Pyschologically, it's hard to not take the quotation as a reliable description of traditions and usage, but the reliability of the fictional quote is unspecified and unknown to me. I think it'd be better to remove the quote entirely, while leaving the work itself in, saying something like,
In the book Woman First: First Woman, a companion work to the television series Veep, fictional former Senator Selina Meyer writes about the traditions and usage of the hideaways, and her experiences with them.
I edited the article thusly, but it can easily be rolled back if people disagree. 199.0.200.235 ( talk) 17:05, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
A fact from Hideaway (U.S. Senate) appeared on Wikipedia's
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The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 06:59, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Created by Chetsford ( talk). Self-nominated at 17:52, 16 October 2020 (UTC).
Pinging nominator Chetsford. Need feedback from the community here.
First of all, I have concerns that the tone of the article is more tabloid than encyclopedic. We have some BLP issues in that article. What specifically jumped out at me was, "Senator Bob Packwood, meanwhile, is alleged to have sexually assaulted a woman in his hideaway" I don't even see Packwood's name in the source: 1 I went to Bob Packwood that claims, "a Washington Post story detailed claims of sexual abuse and assault from ten women", but the Washington Post source says, "unwanted sexual advances as reported by 10 women, mainly former staff members and lobbyists." 2 There's an ocean of difference between "unwanted sexual advances" and "sexual abuse and assault"
Just removed from the article by another editor was an external link "An image of Joe Biden in his hideaway", which was nothing more than Biden sitting in a chair in front of a table, with no one else visible.
Feedback, anyone? — Maile ( talk) 23:59, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Representative David R. Obey of Wisconsin sponsored an amendment to close down the then 78 Senate hideaway offices in response to a raft of sexual misconduct allegations. Congressional Quarterly Weekly Report Yoninah ( talk) 23:10, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
My personal opinion is that the quotation in the "In popular culture" section is accidentally misleading. The reference itself is fine, except that it quotes a *fictional* senator describing the traditions and usage of the Hideaways. Are the descriptions drawn from reality, or themselves fictional? Pyschologically, it's hard to not take the quotation as a reliable description of traditions and usage, but the reliability of the fictional quote is unspecified and unknown to me. I think it'd be better to remove the quote entirely, while leaving the work itself in, saying something like,
In the book Woman First: First Woman, a companion work to the television series Veep, fictional former Senator Selina Meyer writes about the traditions and usage of the hideaways, and her experiences with them.
I edited the article thusly, but it can easily be rolled back if people disagree. 199.0.200.235 ( talk) 17:05, 4 October 2023 (UTC)