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The Hershey Bears are a storied hockey team and all they have on wiki is a default stub. That's sad. If any one is versed in the Bears history, I welcome you to expand this. There's also almost 70+ seasons of records to plug in. Wink Wink ccwaters 30 June 2005 02:53 (UTC)
Finished and transfered to article. ccwaters 13:00, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
nosenuggets- I'm pretty sure the uniforms are brown, not maroon. Unless you think chocolate is maroon colored. Chicago Wolves? Maroon. ccwaters 11:18, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
The Bears are owned by the privately held Hershey Entertainment & Resorts Company which operates all the Hershey related tourist type stuff. Its not a division of publicly traded The Hershey Company, whose sole business is making food. Ultimately, Milton Hershey's estate (The Hershey Trust) owns all of entertainment company and is the majority stockholder of the candy company. REF: http://www.hersheypa.com/town_of_hershey/mission_statement.html
Ok... there's been a few random contributions to the article from obvious Hershey followers. Please add factually correct history info in the "History " section. That is what it is there for. Please. The fact that there's nothing there is a travesty. This storied hockey team deserves more than that and it deserves more than random POV/misleading drive-by contributioms. Maybe the booster club could help? ccwaters 23:22, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Whoever keeps deleting my paragraph referring to the team's market, please stop. Unless you are from south-central PA, you have no business on this page. I am from Lancaster, stay away from my team. I provided useful information that is supported by Wikipedia.
KnoxSGT 21:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
For one the names of colors in every other professional team on this site are capitalized. I did not plagerize, as I put the history in my own words. Your version does not even tell much of the history at all. If no one owns articles, then why do you take it upon yourself to revert back to your version when changes are made. I will report this if you continue. Everyone has the right to change info on this site. Also look at the GIANT Center's capacity, as it matches the population of the town of Hershey. There's no way the AHL would place a team in a location unless it had a population of at least 200,000. That is why I incorporated the other cities in the area, because it is our team. I gather that you are not from PA and therefore do not know anything regarding this. Stick to your own local teams and I will stick to mine. Also if you look at lancasteronline.com, the Lancaster Newspapers site, then you will find 152 articles about the Hershey Bears in Local News.
I understand the rules regarding plagarism, but a history of a team, nation, state, city, etc. is a series of events. A series of events cannot be written in too many ways without watering down the details. If I cannot use the official team site's history, where else could I retrieve info. I noticed another person's comments about the lack of the team's history and wanted to contribute what this person was looking for. The existing page only has about half, and when I tried to add the other, I am plagarizing.
12.208.197.248 19:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
ccwaters why is it that you keep deleting my article about the 2006 playoffs and calder cup championship?
Hopefully I will be able to help this article and answer questions since I am a native of Hershey and a Bears fan..
Here is what I need help with, mostly the 1987-88 season has been talked about due to the fact that they held the team's total points record, 105. See here: http://www.hersheypa.com/events/hershey_bears/pdf/weekly_release/mar26.pdf Left hand side, under "More History on the Horizon." According to the year by year chart here and at Hockeydb.com, in 1987-88 Hershey earned 103 pts. Now if you give them 2 pts for the two OTLs, it equals 105, but I am unsure as to if this was done in the AHL at the time...
P.S. Heh, I don't know as I would not be born for another 4-5 months.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Smurfer2 ( talk • contribs) 19:35, 9 April 2007 (UTC).
In response to the comment on my userpage:
We are not documenting privileged information. If I'm missing something because I don't reside in York, please cite. But please refrain from telling me what I articles I have a right to contribute to based on my personal proximity.
I have no doubt that there are fans from Lancaster or Harrisburg or York in the Giant Center. I also have no doubt that the River Rats draw from Troy, Schenectady, or even Glen Falls. Or that the Senators has fans in Northeast PA. Or that Norfolk draws from Hampton Roads, Chesapeake, Virginia Beach or Portsmouth. Or that Lowell, Worcester, Springfield, Bridgeport, Hartford, Providence and Portland draw from their neighboring sprawl. Shall I cross reference all of these in their respective articles?
USA Hockey represents the US in IIHF sanctioned tournaments. The local high school hockey team represents said high school. IE... "This is the best squad of hockey players our population can produce: do us proud." . Professional sports teams in the US do not "represent" their markets. They are almost always a for profit entertainment endeavor that imports outsiders to play for a salary. In turn that salary is financed by ticket/merchandising/etc sales from individuals in the surrounding community. Their performance on the ice is by no means an extrapolation of the communities value. I would say the VAST majority of that 1,535,995 (Or is it 1,192,572 [1]?) would disagree your statement. ccwaters 13:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Is Chocolate B`ars a joke? 24.83.3.54 19:53, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
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It's a howling shame that a full sixty year stretch of the Bears' history, from 1940 to 2005 - a stretch in which the team won eight Calder Cups - was entirely blank, other than a full paragraph about the team signing Don Cherry, whom no one could legitimately claim was a notable player for the franchise. Perhaps some attention could be turned to filling in those Cup seasons, as well as the doings of the Nykoluks, Marshalls, Henrys, Kullmans, Kellers, Dobbins and Lamoureauxs of the world. ῲ Ravenswing ῴ 08:04, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
The actual full and official name of the organization that owns and operates the AHL hockey team playing in Hershey, PA, is (and has always been) "The Hershey Bears Hockey Club" not the "Hershey Bears". This is the name that the club uses on its website (see the contact information at the bottom of the page), stationary, checks, invoices, publications, etc.. Encyclopedic style of WP (and every other encyclopedia) is to use full, proper names, not "popular" names, for organizations, people, buildings, ships, bridges, etc. when the name is introduced for the first time. This issue was also discussed here earlier and resolved as using the club's full and proper name. I have been writing about this hockey club professionally since the early 1970s (see for instance "1936-2002: HERSHEYPARK ARENA'S SIXTY-SIX YEARS AS HOME TO HERSHEY BEARS HOCKEY.") and this the way its full name has always been used. Centpacrr ( talk) 15:07, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
I understand your opinion, especially since the MLS' Chicago Fire has its full name as its article title. Most sports teams just use their common names, though. JaMikePA ( talk) 13:44, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Beyond that, beyond WP:COMMONNAME, there's another principle at hand here: consensus. Both here and on your talk page, you are wont to raise your dealings with the club as if that's some kind of trump card that ought to stifle debate, but here on Wikipedia you're an editor like all the rest of us: I certainly don't get to infer on the Boston Bruins article that my way goes because I've written print articles about the club and done broadcast work. In any event, I don't see either on the earlier discussion or here a crucial element: other editors agreeing with you. How Frank Mathers answered the phone forty years ago -- which, I note with interest, wasn't "Hershey Bears Hockey Club" -- is quite irrelevant. Oknazevad's mention of WP:OWN is prudent. Ravenswing 12:56, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
The Hershey Hockey Club (now Hershey Bears Hockey Club), the hockey organization that owns and operates the Hershey Bears hockey team in the AHL, was founded in 1932 and since then has operated professional teams in Herhsye, PA under four different names in two different leagues since then. For the first two years (1936-38) the current American Hockey League operated not as a single league, but as two already established leagues (The International Hockey League and the Canadian-American [Can-Am] Hockey League) which played an interlocking schedule because both leagues had fallen to just four member clubs each. That circuit was styled as the International-American Hockey League which soon dropped to seven teams when Buffalo was forced to withdraw when the roof of its arena collapse in a blizzard. These two leagues did not formally merge until June, 1938 at which time the Hershey Hockey Club was granted a new franchise to operate in that new I-AHL in that league. (In 1938-39 the Hershey Hockey Club operated teams in both the EAHL -- the Hershey Cubs -- and the I-AHL -- the Hershey Bears.) The I-AHL dropped "International" from its name in 1940 and has operated as the AHL ever since.
Thus 1932 is the year in which hockey club organization in Hershey was established, but is was not until 1938 (not 1932) that the organization was granted the franchise in the I-AHL (now AHL) that it currently owns and operates. Centpacrr ( talk) 16:01, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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The Hershey Bears are a storied hockey team and all they have on wiki is a default stub. That's sad. If any one is versed in the Bears history, I welcome you to expand this. There's also almost 70+ seasons of records to plug in. Wink Wink ccwaters 30 June 2005 02:53 (UTC)
Finished and transfered to article. ccwaters 13:00, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
nosenuggets- I'm pretty sure the uniforms are brown, not maroon. Unless you think chocolate is maroon colored. Chicago Wolves? Maroon. ccwaters 11:18, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
The Bears are owned by the privately held Hershey Entertainment & Resorts Company which operates all the Hershey related tourist type stuff. Its not a division of publicly traded The Hershey Company, whose sole business is making food. Ultimately, Milton Hershey's estate (The Hershey Trust) owns all of entertainment company and is the majority stockholder of the candy company. REF: http://www.hersheypa.com/town_of_hershey/mission_statement.html
Ok... there's been a few random contributions to the article from obvious Hershey followers. Please add factually correct history info in the "History " section. That is what it is there for. Please. The fact that there's nothing there is a travesty. This storied hockey team deserves more than that and it deserves more than random POV/misleading drive-by contributioms. Maybe the booster club could help? ccwaters 23:22, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Whoever keeps deleting my paragraph referring to the team's market, please stop. Unless you are from south-central PA, you have no business on this page. I am from Lancaster, stay away from my team. I provided useful information that is supported by Wikipedia.
KnoxSGT 21:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
For one the names of colors in every other professional team on this site are capitalized. I did not plagerize, as I put the history in my own words. Your version does not even tell much of the history at all. If no one owns articles, then why do you take it upon yourself to revert back to your version when changes are made. I will report this if you continue. Everyone has the right to change info on this site. Also look at the GIANT Center's capacity, as it matches the population of the town of Hershey. There's no way the AHL would place a team in a location unless it had a population of at least 200,000. That is why I incorporated the other cities in the area, because it is our team. I gather that you are not from PA and therefore do not know anything regarding this. Stick to your own local teams and I will stick to mine. Also if you look at lancasteronline.com, the Lancaster Newspapers site, then you will find 152 articles about the Hershey Bears in Local News.
I understand the rules regarding plagarism, but a history of a team, nation, state, city, etc. is a series of events. A series of events cannot be written in too many ways without watering down the details. If I cannot use the official team site's history, where else could I retrieve info. I noticed another person's comments about the lack of the team's history and wanted to contribute what this person was looking for. The existing page only has about half, and when I tried to add the other, I am plagarizing.
12.208.197.248 19:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
ccwaters why is it that you keep deleting my article about the 2006 playoffs and calder cup championship?
Hopefully I will be able to help this article and answer questions since I am a native of Hershey and a Bears fan..
Here is what I need help with, mostly the 1987-88 season has been talked about due to the fact that they held the team's total points record, 105. See here: http://www.hersheypa.com/events/hershey_bears/pdf/weekly_release/mar26.pdf Left hand side, under "More History on the Horizon." According to the year by year chart here and at Hockeydb.com, in 1987-88 Hershey earned 103 pts. Now if you give them 2 pts for the two OTLs, it equals 105, but I am unsure as to if this was done in the AHL at the time...
P.S. Heh, I don't know as I would not be born for another 4-5 months.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Smurfer2 ( talk • contribs) 19:35, 9 April 2007 (UTC).
In response to the comment on my userpage:
We are not documenting privileged information. If I'm missing something because I don't reside in York, please cite. But please refrain from telling me what I articles I have a right to contribute to based on my personal proximity.
I have no doubt that there are fans from Lancaster or Harrisburg or York in the Giant Center. I also have no doubt that the River Rats draw from Troy, Schenectady, or even Glen Falls. Or that the Senators has fans in Northeast PA. Or that Norfolk draws from Hampton Roads, Chesapeake, Virginia Beach or Portsmouth. Or that Lowell, Worcester, Springfield, Bridgeport, Hartford, Providence and Portland draw from their neighboring sprawl. Shall I cross reference all of these in their respective articles?
USA Hockey represents the US in IIHF sanctioned tournaments. The local high school hockey team represents said high school. IE... "This is the best squad of hockey players our population can produce: do us proud." . Professional sports teams in the US do not "represent" their markets. They are almost always a for profit entertainment endeavor that imports outsiders to play for a salary. In turn that salary is financed by ticket/merchandising/etc sales from individuals in the surrounding community. Their performance on the ice is by no means an extrapolation of the communities value. I would say the VAST majority of that 1,535,995 (Or is it 1,192,572 [1]?) would disagree your statement. ccwaters 13:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Is Chocolate B`ars a joke? 24.83.3.54 19:53, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale completed. Flibirigit 04:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 15:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
It's a howling shame that a full sixty year stretch of the Bears' history, from 1940 to 2005 - a stretch in which the team won eight Calder Cups - was entirely blank, other than a full paragraph about the team signing Don Cherry, whom no one could legitimately claim was a notable player for the franchise. Perhaps some attention could be turned to filling in those Cup seasons, as well as the doings of the Nykoluks, Marshalls, Henrys, Kullmans, Kellers, Dobbins and Lamoureauxs of the world. ῲ Ravenswing ῴ 08:04, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
The actual full and official name of the organization that owns and operates the AHL hockey team playing in Hershey, PA, is (and has always been) "The Hershey Bears Hockey Club" not the "Hershey Bears". This is the name that the club uses on its website (see the contact information at the bottom of the page), stationary, checks, invoices, publications, etc.. Encyclopedic style of WP (and every other encyclopedia) is to use full, proper names, not "popular" names, for organizations, people, buildings, ships, bridges, etc. when the name is introduced for the first time. This issue was also discussed here earlier and resolved as using the club's full and proper name. I have been writing about this hockey club professionally since the early 1970s (see for instance "1936-2002: HERSHEYPARK ARENA'S SIXTY-SIX YEARS AS HOME TO HERSHEY BEARS HOCKEY.") and this the way its full name has always been used. Centpacrr ( talk) 15:07, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
I understand your opinion, especially since the MLS' Chicago Fire has its full name as its article title. Most sports teams just use their common names, though. JaMikePA ( talk) 13:44, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Beyond that, beyond WP:COMMONNAME, there's another principle at hand here: consensus. Both here and on your talk page, you are wont to raise your dealings with the club as if that's some kind of trump card that ought to stifle debate, but here on Wikipedia you're an editor like all the rest of us: I certainly don't get to infer on the Boston Bruins article that my way goes because I've written print articles about the club and done broadcast work. In any event, I don't see either on the earlier discussion or here a crucial element: other editors agreeing with you. How Frank Mathers answered the phone forty years ago -- which, I note with interest, wasn't "Hershey Bears Hockey Club" -- is quite irrelevant. Oknazevad's mention of WP:OWN is prudent. Ravenswing 12:56, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
The Hershey Hockey Club (now Hershey Bears Hockey Club), the hockey organization that owns and operates the Hershey Bears hockey team in the AHL, was founded in 1932 and since then has operated professional teams in Herhsye, PA under four different names in two different leagues since then. For the first two years (1936-38) the current American Hockey League operated not as a single league, but as two already established leagues (The International Hockey League and the Canadian-American [Can-Am] Hockey League) which played an interlocking schedule because both leagues had fallen to just four member clubs each. That circuit was styled as the International-American Hockey League which soon dropped to seven teams when Buffalo was forced to withdraw when the roof of its arena collapse in a blizzard. These two leagues did not formally merge until June, 1938 at which time the Hershey Hockey Club was granted a new franchise to operate in that new I-AHL in that league. (In 1938-39 the Hershey Hockey Club operated teams in both the EAHL -- the Hershey Cubs -- and the I-AHL -- the Hershey Bears.) The I-AHL dropped "International" from its name in 1940 and has operated as the AHL ever since.
Thus 1932 is the year in which hockey club organization in Hershey was established, but is was not until 1938 (not 1932) that the organization was granted the franchise in the I-AHL (now AHL) that it currently owns and operates. Centpacrr ( talk) 16:01, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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