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I recently created an article about the Minecraft Steve video game character here. A notable aspect of the character is a creepypasta topic named Herobrine, which is discussed at length under its own section at Steve (Minecraft)#Herobrine as well as a paragraph's worth under critical analysis. It is currently a redirect to Minecraft#Cultural_impact, but no one other then an administrator could edit it. It was very recently placed under indefinite, full protection by Ohnoitsjamie because someone had repeatedly attempted to recreate an article that is poorly sourced into mainspace. I am not contesting Ohnoitsjamie's decision to fully protect the redirect or arguing that the prior contents of "Herobrine" in mainspace meets relevant notability guidelines; I am simply making an uncontroversial technical request to change the redirect target from Minecraft#Cultural impact where it is very briefly mentioned in passing to Steve (Minecraft), an action which I am unable to complete on my own because of the increased protection level. Haleth ( talk) 12:54, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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Several of the categories should be moved from Steve (Minecraft) to this redirect per WP:INCOMPATIBLE, namely Category:Creepypasta, Category:In-jokes, Category:Internet hoaxes, Category:Urban legends, and Category:Video game memes. Normally, I would do this myself, but the redirect is fully protected. (Oinkers42) ( talk) 15:42, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Please add Category:Minecraft and italicise the title. Thanks! Thiscouldbeauser ( talk) 06:05, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
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Created by NegativeMP1 ( talk). Self-nominated at 18:16, 8 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Herobrine; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Reviewer: TrademarkedTWOrantula ( talk · contribs) 15:35, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Unfortunately I think this falls short in several areas but not sure if to the point of a WP:QUICKFAIL. The core problem is that the notable aspects of this article are really about an urban legend; the character does not exist, so there is not much to really say in terms of information normally available for a character. So the sourcing would have to be improved by some measure to pass I think. This review is a work in progress but some early initial comments are below. VRXCES ( talk) 04:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Does the article conform to the general standards of WP:VG articles including the WP:VG/MOS? Yes, mostly under
WP:VGLAYOUT. I'm mindful that this is part character part urban legend so any idiosyncrasies aren't really a problem.
Is the article broad enough in its coverage and contains reliable sourcing? Generally not. The article is heavily sourced from the Morton article which, compared with an article with few sources, raises several problems:
Do the sources cited verify the text in the article?
Are media and links properly attributed and do not have copyright issues? Sources cited, purpose stated mostly.
Any other personal opinions or miscellaneous feedback that may or may not be relevant to the nomination?
Oh my God. Herobrine's here. TWOrantulaTM ( enter the web) 15:35, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | |
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2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). | |
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2c. it contains no original research. | |
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2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. | No copyvios, per Earwig. |
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3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. | Herobrine's origins, design, characteristics, reception, and impact are all covered within the article. |
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3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). | |
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4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | |
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5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. | Obviously. |
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
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6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. | Herobrine character and original image sighting are correctly tagged. Flickr image of Herorbrine cosplayer is freely licensed. |
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6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. | Render of Herobrine and screenshot are relevant (of course they are), and the cosplayer image is, well... passable. |
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7. Overall assessment. |
WP:OTHERSTUFF and WP:WAX are irrelevant, the fact that a obscure Minecraft reference can get an article and featured on WP:DYK when one of the most popular characters of the 90s got redirected means that the notability policy is broken beyond repair, and Wikipedia is no longer trustable on what is considered "notable". Well i'm declaring now that my donation money is "not notable", and will not be given to Wikipedia any more. Consider me {{RETIRED}}. 77.103.193.166 ( talk) 19:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Here. Conference papers are also not peer-reviewed. — VORTEX 3427 ( Talk!) 04:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
My edit summary got cut off, so I will post it here.
For the video game characters task force: This "character" is quite niche, and certainly not Mid-Importance. His impact is exclusive to Minecraft, most of the reception used to show outside impact is made up of listicles, and he never actually appears in a video game. Barely anyone who isn't a Minecraft fan could identify this character, and I guarantee he would not be easily identified by a good number of people who are Minecraft fans.
For the Internet culture WikiProject: Herobrine as a meme is confined almost entirely to Minecraft, and is not even that prevalent within the Minecraft community. WikiProject Internet Culture has an importance scale, and Herobrine does not get above Low-Importance.
QuicoleJR ( talk) 14:55, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
not even that prevalent within the Minecraft community. Is there any proof of this? He is probably the most famous character apart from Steve, Alex, the Creeper. Minecraft update logs always included "removed herobrine". — Panamitsu (talk) 22:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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I recently created an article about the Minecraft Steve video game character here. A notable aspect of the character is a creepypasta topic named Herobrine, which is discussed at length under its own section at Steve (Minecraft)#Herobrine as well as a paragraph's worth under critical analysis. It is currently a redirect to Minecraft#Cultural_impact, but no one other then an administrator could edit it. It was very recently placed under indefinite, full protection by Ohnoitsjamie because someone had repeatedly attempted to recreate an article that is poorly sourced into mainspace. I am not contesting Ohnoitsjamie's decision to fully protect the redirect or arguing that the prior contents of "Herobrine" in mainspace meets relevant notability guidelines; I am simply making an uncontroversial technical request to change the redirect target from Minecraft#Cultural impact where it is very briefly mentioned in passing to Steve (Minecraft), an action which I am unable to complete on my own because of the increased protection level. Haleth ( talk) 12:54, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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Several of the categories should be moved from Steve (Minecraft) to this redirect per WP:INCOMPATIBLE, namely Category:Creepypasta, Category:In-jokes, Category:Internet hoaxes, Category:Urban legends, and Category:Video game memes. Normally, I would do this myself, but the redirect is fully protected. (Oinkers42) ( talk) 15:42, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Please add Category:Minecraft and italicise the title. Thanks! Thiscouldbeauser ( talk) 06:05, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
Rjjiii
talk
18:58, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Created by NegativeMP1 ( talk). Self-nominated at 18:16, 8 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Herobrine; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
We are in
WP:QPQ backlog mode. Double reviews are required.-
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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Reviewer: TrademarkedTWOrantula ( talk · contribs) 15:35, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Unfortunately I think this falls short in several areas but not sure if to the point of a WP:QUICKFAIL. The core problem is that the notable aspects of this article are really about an urban legend; the character does not exist, so there is not much to really say in terms of information normally available for a character. So the sourcing would have to be improved by some measure to pass I think. This review is a work in progress but some early initial comments are below. VRXCES ( talk) 04:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Does the article conform to the general standards of WP:VG articles including the WP:VG/MOS? Yes, mostly under
WP:VGLAYOUT. I'm mindful that this is part character part urban legend so any idiosyncrasies aren't really a problem.
Is the article broad enough in its coverage and contains reliable sourcing? Generally not. The article is heavily sourced from the Morton article which, compared with an article with few sources, raises several problems:
Do the sources cited verify the text in the article?
Are media and links properly attributed and do not have copyright issues? Sources cited, purpose stated mostly.
Any other personal opinions or miscellaneous feedback that may or may not be relevant to the nomination?
Oh my God. Herobrine's here. TWOrantulaTM ( enter the web) 15:35, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. | |
2. Verifiable with no original research: | ||
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2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | |
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2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). | |
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2c. it contains no original research. | |
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2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. | No copyvios, per Earwig. |
3. Broad in its coverage: | ||
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3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. | Herobrine's origins, design, characteristics, reception, and impact are all covered within the article. |
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3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). | |
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4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | |
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5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. | Obviously. |
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
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6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. | Herobrine character and original image sighting are correctly tagged. Flickr image of Herorbrine cosplayer is freely licensed. |
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6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. | Render of Herobrine and screenshot are relevant (of course they are), and the cosplayer image is, well... passable. |
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7. Overall assessment. |
WP:OTHERSTUFF and WP:WAX are irrelevant, the fact that a obscure Minecraft reference can get an article and featured on WP:DYK when one of the most popular characters of the 90s got redirected means that the notability policy is broken beyond repair, and Wikipedia is no longer trustable on what is considered "notable". Well i'm declaring now that my donation money is "not notable", and will not be given to Wikipedia any more. Consider me {{RETIRED}}. 77.103.193.166 ( talk) 19:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Here. Conference papers are also not peer-reviewed. — VORTEX 3427 ( Talk!) 04:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
My edit summary got cut off, so I will post it here.
For the video game characters task force: This "character" is quite niche, and certainly not Mid-Importance. His impact is exclusive to Minecraft, most of the reception used to show outside impact is made up of listicles, and he never actually appears in a video game. Barely anyone who isn't a Minecraft fan could identify this character, and I guarantee he would not be easily identified by a good number of people who are Minecraft fans.
For the Internet culture WikiProject: Herobrine as a meme is confined almost entirely to Minecraft, and is not even that prevalent within the Minecraft community. WikiProject Internet Culture has an importance scale, and Herobrine does not get above Low-Importance.
QuicoleJR ( talk) 14:55, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
not even that prevalent within the Minecraft community. Is there any proof of this? He is probably the most famous character apart from Steve, Alex, the Creeper. Minecraft update logs always included "removed herobrine". — Panamitsu (talk) 22:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)