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Talk about a moral panic is too vague to be included in an article like this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.217.176 ( talk) 13:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
It is also a mater of opinion, and if it is to be included an explanation is needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Howardhugest ( talk • contribs) 19:59, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Wrong. It is biased, suggesting public reaction to well known crimes committed by the Hell's Angels are not just. The term "moral panic" is controversial in itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Howardhugest ( talk • contribs) 21:51, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
It's very clear your edits are not intended to make a better Wikipedia article and if you persist you will very likely be blocked from editing. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 22:18, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
First of all the club did not launch, Hunter Thompson's career. Secondly, the so called "moral panic" is not unjustifiable. HA are the largest criminal organization in Canada. Ignorance of this fact is not an excuse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Howardhugest ( talk • contribs) 22:38, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Well, that was fun, and for his efforts Howardhugest ( talk · contribs) has now gained a permanent exclusion from Wikipedia. I suspect he will be back, that type always is. In the meantime an article has gained a bit of attention from other editors so perhaps we can look forward to some constructive editing and some new sources on the article. Thanks everyone. -- Biker Biker ( talk) 22:50, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
But it doesn't say why Hells Angels isn't called "Hell's Angels"?... I'm curious about that. :-) -- 95.34.149.128 ( talk) 19:16, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
This section says: "To become a full member, the Prospect must be voted on unanimously by the rest of the full club members." But then later seems to contradict that saying "Successful admission usually requires more than a simple majority, and some clubs may reject a Prospect for a single dissenting vote." Either it is unanimity or it isn't. Which? Valenciano ( talk) 18:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
64.223.160.117 ( talk) 11:08, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
When reference was made to the Chosen Few MC, when they were offered to patch over to the Angels, it wasn't the black Chosen Few that offer was made to, but an unrelated white club with the same name. Hells Angels have always had a no blacks' policy, so they wouldn't offer to patch over a black club. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.198.170 ( talk) 16:40, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
Also, it's a joke to quote an article from Ebony magazine in 1966 on the topic of blacks joining, during the height of racial segregation in the US. Ridiculous! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:A:1280:24EC:BD47:13C1:2371:EE1F ( talk) 00:36, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Regarding the racial policy it has to be noted that this is restricted to the US only as in countries like the Netherlands there is no such policy being that the former of HA Holland, Daniel Uneputty, is of Molukkan origin. Runlevel0 08:10, 14 June 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Runlevel0 ( talk • contribs)
The Cossacks are a Hells Angels "farm team". Should they have a mention here or their own article? Jbottero ( talk) 01:29, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
(I see there is already some discussion here about "Karen Katz", in re: the matter of a "moral panic", but this does not concern that issue per se)
However, I don't think the click-through reference to "Karen Katz" is correct. Clicking on Karen Katz brings up a children's book author who, as far as I can tell, is not a criminologist. Furthermore, in the references section at the bottom of this (HAMC) page, it refers to her as "Kare", not "Karen". So, I'm guessing, not the same person.
Chapters have always been the local groups. What are the 'charters' that have infiltrated this article.
For years, HAs have referred to chapters. E.g. in this documentary about HAs in England https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng8Ll7x08Vk
The club seems to be exclusively male (with women playing supportive roles) but it's not mentioned anywhere in the article. Seems odd and sexist, treating male as the default and female as irrelevant. 142.169.80.41 ( talk) 00:04, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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Talk about a moral panic is too vague to be included in an article like this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.217.176 ( talk) 13:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
It is also a mater of opinion, and if it is to be included an explanation is needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Howardhugest ( talk • contribs) 19:59, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Wrong. It is biased, suggesting public reaction to well known crimes committed by the Hell's Angels are not just. The term "moral panic" is controversial in itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Howardhugest ( talk • contribs) 21:51, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
It's very clear your edits are not intended to make a better Wikipedia article and if you persist you will very likely be blocked from editing. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 22:18, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
First of all the club did not launch, Hunter Thompson's career. Secondly, the so called "moral panic" is not unjustifiable. HA are the largest criminal organization in Canada. Ignorance of this fact is not an excuse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Howardhugest ( talk • contribs) 22:38, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Well, that was fun, and for his efforts Howardhugest ( talk · contribs) has now gained a permanent exclusion from Wikipedia. I suspect he will be back, that type always is. In the meantime an article has gained a bit of attention from other editors so perhaps we can look forward to some constructive editing and some new sources on the article. Thanks everyone. -- Biker Biker ( talk) 22:50, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
But it doesn't say why Hells Angels isn't called "Hell's Angels"?... I'm curious about that. :-) -- 95.34.149.128 ( talk) 19:16, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
This section says: "To become a full member, the Prospect must be voted on unanimously by the rest of the full club members." But then later seems to contradict that saying "Successful admission usually requires more than a simple majority, and some clubs may reject a Prospect for a single dissenting vote." Either it is unanimity or it isn't. Which? Valenciano ( talk) 18:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
64.223.160.117 ( talk) 11:08, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
When reference was made to the Chosen Few MC, when they were offered to patch over to the Angels, it wasn't the black Chosen Few that offer was made to, but an unrelated white club with the same name. Hells Angels have always had a no blacks' policy, so they wouldn't offer to patch over a black club. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.198.170 ( talk) 16:40, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
Also, it's a joke to quote an article from Ebony magazine in 1966 on the topic of blacks joining, during the height of racial segregation in the US. Ridiculous! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:A:1280:24EC:BD47:13C1:2371:EE1F ( talk) 00:36, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Regarding the racial policy it has to be noted that this is restricted to the US only as in countries like the Netherlands there is no such policy being that the former of HA Holland, Daniel Uneputty, is of Molukkan origin. Runlevel0 08:10, 14 June 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Runlevel0 ( talk • contribs)
The Cossacks are a Hells Angels "farm team". Should they have a mention here or their own article? Jbottero ( talk) 01:29, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
(I see there is already some discussion here about "Karen Katz", in re: the matter of a "moral panic", but this does not concern that issue per se)
However, I don't think the click-through reference to "Karen Katz" is correct. Clicking on Karen Katz brings up a children's book author who, as far as I can tell, is not a criminologist. Furthermore, in the references section at the bottom of this (HAMC) page, it refers to her as "Kare", not "Karen". So, I'm guessing, not the same person.
Chapters have always been the local groups. What are the 'charters' that have infiltrated this article.
For years, HAs have referred to chapters. E.g. in this documentary about HAs in England https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng8Ll7x08Vk
The club seems to be exclusively male (with women playing supportive roles) but it's not mentioned anywhere in the article. Seems odd and sexist, treating male as the default and female as irrelevant. 142.169.80.41 ( talk) 00:04, 5 May 2024 (UTC)