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The section on X-Pac Heat has a few inaccuracies, and the accurate parts don't really explain the concept for someone who isn't already familiar with the phenomenon. It's mostly just a listing of times people booed John Cena. If no one minds, I'm going to rewrite the section.
I don't blame the person that originally tagged this article for neutrality as it keeps turning into a forum on why someone doesn't like a certain wrestler.
There are no cites or sources for this entry to back up anything in it. This article will be put up for Afd if the matter is not resolved. TruthCrusader 16:05, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
-- That's because there is little in the way of news stories that talk about crowd reaction, but it doesn't mean these variations of reactions don't exist. I know where you're coming from, but in this case, I don't think tagging this article for lack of sources is justified in this case.
TRIPLE H/ROCK LEGIT HEAT
This is bull crap. They has never been any evidence of legit heat between these two. In fact. they have worked together numerous times in the ring. Give me some evidence
All entries that contain such information MUST be cited or sourced. That is Wikipedia policy. TruthCrusader 13:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
The entry cannot stand as it is. It HAS to be sourced. www.obsessed with wrestling.com or www.wrestlingencyclopedia.com can be used to source the terms, BUT the various examples Rock/HHH etc etc cannot be sourced and will have to be removed. TruthCrusader 19:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
The article has been whittled down considerably to remove much of the unsourced commentary, and as such, the only tag still needed (technically) is the NPOV tag. - Chadbryant 22:13, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
To source actually means to LIST SOURCES, not just proclaim "these are sourced". TruthCrusader 05:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I removed a large part of the section because it read more like commentary than material suitable for an encyclopedia. The text that is there right now is more than sufficient to explain the concept. The example of X-Pac himself is more than suitable to illustrate the concept. If we start adding more examples, the section will become too large and unweildy to be organized and informative. Furthermore, X-Pac heat is a subjective concept. Unless you actually poll the fans, it's very, very hard to tell what their motivation is for booing someone. I would agree that the Big Show/Batista and Lesnar/Goldberg examples are X-Pac heat, but I disagree that Rock and Cena were getting X-Pac heat. It seems to me that the crowd got sick of their babyface act, but not sick of the wrestler, as evidenced by how effective Rock was after he turned heel. Believe me, people definitely paid to watch him wrestle. They did not wish he would go away. WP:Verifiability requires information to be verifiable, and you can't really get a source for what the crowd was thinking. Croctotheface 06:53, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
A user with two IPs in the same range, 137.158.128.105 and 137.158.128.106, keeps adding an unsourced comment that Bret Hart's matches frequently had canned heat played. Considering the history of vandalism at both these IPs, I see no reason to believe that this edit is legitimate. Consequently, I will keep reverting it as vandalism. Croctotheface 08:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
It is legitimate if it's true, which it certainly is. 13 October 2006
I removed it because I did a Google search for ("reflected heat" wrestling) and it didn't return any results related to professional wrestling that I could see. If this term is notable enough for inclusion, there should be a lot of sources that use it. Otherwise, it's original research, which is a no-no for Wikipedia. Croctotheface 07:59, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Why is dead heat associated with Charlie Haas? The people I talk to refer to it as a 'Conway Pop', referencing Rob Conway.
Just a question should the heat non Canadien wrestlers get when they have a match with Canadian wrestlers in Canada (despite being a face) be added to this page. IE Unforgiven 2006 between Edge and Cena when Edge despite being a heel got cheered and an overwhelming majoriy booed Cena who is a face —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.126.238.25 ( talk) 05:39, 6 January 2007 (UTC).
-> This is not a phenomenon that has been limited to matches involving Cena, it goes back to at least Bret Hart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.161.179.31 ( talk) 23:59, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
I'm OK with this sentence, but I'd still really like to see a citation of a reliable source. Croctotheface 06:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone expand on this?
It says that Sgt. Slaughter would create 'heat' by insulting soldiers and supporting Iraq during the Gulf War. I don't follow wrestling, but that sounds odd to me. I remember Sgt. Slaughter as a child, and his gimmick was supposed to be a kind of G.I. Joe USMC superpatriot, which is why it sounds odd that he would draw 'heat' by mocking US soldiers. Wasn't he supposed to be a 'face', anyway? Childe Roland of Gilead 17:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
This sounds very much like POV. While it may be true that he has once or twice received Negative Heat (the true name for this kind of heat), this article is very biased against Waltman. How widespread is the term "X-Pac Heat"? Is it just the RSPW gang who use it? There are various people (including current WWE Champion John Cena) who receive this type of heat far more frequently and more significantly. I sincerely doubt that "X-Pac Heat" is the term used by people in the wrestling industry. Does anyone have a leigitimate source(and I don't mean something off Scott Keith's Blog) that uses the term "X-Pac Heat"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.158.128.105 ( talk) 12:53, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I think this needs a mention probably in the "cheap heat" section. Punk talked crap about a newly deceased Paul Bearer in order tp get heat and continue the feud os probably the best example we could have. BlackDragon 01:52, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
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An experienced Wikipedian needs to seriously take a look at the sentence structure and vocabulary used in this article. What's "revaluted?" 2409:4042:228E:3C9C:DD7A:E51C:FA59:4426 ( talk) 10:33, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
There is no mention of Shawn Michael's heat on Montreal city on August 15 2005. He did say, " "Who's your daddy Montreal?!" Please mention it in this article. Source Man Floor ( talk) 05:07, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
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The section on X-Pac Heat has a few inaccuracies, and the accurate parts don't really explain the concept for someone who isn't already familiar with the phenomenon. It's mostly just a listing of times people booed John Cena. If no one minds, I'm going to rewrite the section.
I don't blame the person that originally tagged this article for neutrality as it keeps turning into a forum on why someone doesn't like a certain wrestler.
There are no cites or sources for this entry to back up anything in it. This article will be put up for Afd if the matter is not resolved. TruthCrusader 16:05, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
-- That's because there is little in the way of news stories that talk about crowd reaction, but it doesn't mean these variations of reactions don't exist. I know where you're coming from, but in this case, I don't think tagging this article for lack of sources is justified in this case.
TRIPLE H/ROCK LEGIT HEAT
This is bull crap. They has never been any evidence of legit heat between these two. In fact. they have worked together numerous times in the ring. Give me some evidence
All entries that contain such information MUST be cited or sourced. That is Wikipedia policy. TruthCrusader 13:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
The entry cannot stand as it is. It HAS to be sourced. www.obsessed with wrestling.com or www.wrestlingencyclopedia.com can be used to source the terms, BUT the various examples Rock/HHH etc etc cannot be sourced and will have to be removed. TruthCrusader 19:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
The article has been whittled down considerably to remove much of the unsourced commentary, and as such, the only tag still needed (technically) is the NPOV tag. - Chadbryant 22:13, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
To source actually means to LIST SOURCES, not just proclaim "these are sourced". TruthCrusader 05:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I removed a large part of the section because it read more like commentary than material suitable for an encyclopedia. The text that is there right now is more than sufficient to explain the concept. The example of X-Pac himself is more than suitable to illustrate the concept. If we start adding more examples, the section will become too large and unweildy to be organized and informative. Furthermore, X-Pac heat is a subjective concept. Unless you actually poll the fans, it's very, very hard to tell what their motivation is for booing someone. I would agree that the Big Show/Batista and Lesnar/Goldberg examples are X-Pac heat, but I disagree that Rock and Cena were getting X-Pac heat. It seems to me that the crowd got sick of their babyface act, but not sick of the wrestler, as evidenced by how effective Rock was after he turned heel. Believe me, people definitely paid to watch him wrestle. They did not wish he would go away. WP:Verifiability requires information to be verifiable, and you can't really get a source for what the crowd was thinking. Croctotheface 06:53, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
A user with two IPs in the same range, 137.158.128.105 and 137.158.128.106, keeps adding an unsourced comment that Bret Hart's matches frequently had canned heat played. Considering the history of vandalism at both these IPs, I see no reason to believe that this edit is legitimate. Consequently, I will keep reverting it as vandalism. Croctotheface 08:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
It is legitimate if it's true, which it certainly is. 13 October 2006
I removed it because I did a Google search for ("reflected heat" wrestling) and it didn't return any results related to professional wrestling that I could see. If this term is notable enough for inclusion, there should be a lot of sources that use it. Otherwise, it's original research, which is a no-no for Wikipedia. Croctotheface 07:59, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Why is dead heat associated with Charlie Haas? The people I talk to refer to it as a 'Conway Pop', referencing Rob Conway.
Just a question should the heat non Canadien wrestlers get when they have a match with Canadian wrestlers in Canada (despite being a face) be added to this page. IE Unforgiven 2006 between Edge and Cena when Edge despite being a heel got cheered and an overwhelming majoriy booed Cena who is a face —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.126.238.25 ( talk) 05:39, 6 January 2007 (UTC).
-> This is not a phenomenon that has been limited to matches involving Cena, it goes back to at least Bret Hart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.161.179.31 ( talk) 23:59, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
I'm OK with this sentence, but I'd still really like to see a citation of a reliable source. Croctotheface 06:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone expand on this?
It says that Sgt. Slaughter would create 'heat' by insulting soldiers and supporting Iraq during the Gulf War. I don't follow wrestling, but that sounds odd to me. I remember Sgt. Slaughter as a child, and his gimmick was supposed to be a kind of G.I. Joe USMC superpatriot, which is why it sounds odd that he would draw 'heat' by mocking US soldiers. Wasn't he supposed to be a 'face', anyway? Childe Roland of Gilead 17:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
This sounds very much like POV. While it may be true that he has once or twice received Negative Heat (the true name for this kind of heat), this article is very biased against Waltman. How widespread is the term "X-Pac Heat"? Is it just the RSPW gang who use it? There are various people (including current WWE Champion John Cena) who receive this type of heat far more frequently and more significantly. I sincerely doubt that "X-Pac Heat" is the term used by people in the wrestling industry. Does anyone have a leigitimate source(and I don't mean something off Scott Keith's Blog) that uses the term "X-Pac Heat"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.158.128.105 ( talk) 12:53, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I think this needs a mention probably in the "cheap heat" section. Punk talked crap about a newly deceased Paul Bearer in order tp get heat and continue the feud os probably the best example we could have. BlackDragon 01:52, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
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An experienced Wikipedian needs to seriously take a look at the sentence structure and vocabulary used in this article. What's "revaluted?" 2409:4042:228E:3C9C:DD7A:E51C:FA59:4426 ( talk) 10:33, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
There is no mention of Shawn Michael's heat on Montreal city on August 15 2005. He did say, " "Who's your daddy Montreal?!" Please mention it in this article. Source Man Floor ( talk) 05:07, 2 August 2020 (UTC)