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This would make a good brief paragraph at Pizza but it's a bit lame all on its own, no?... Wetman 01:17, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Type? Style? Semantics? I nod my oblate-spheroid-shaped overly large homely head in agreement with the Richards bloke advocating this page's info into the general "pizza" page or wherever a listing of pizza-topping-ingredients is listed though actually mentioning "Hawaiian pizza" seems to be a needless use of terminology that detracts from knowledge seeker's quest.
Obbop (
talk) 23:05, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
On this page it claims that 15% of all pizza sales in australia are hawaiin, yet on the main page for pizza it says 20%. Other then being a hawaiin pizza eater and an Australian, i have no knowledge of this. So if someone has the knowledge and sources to back it up, could you make a choice. thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.4.74.65 ( talk) 19:26, 25 January 2007 (UTC).
I personally would like to see more evidence of this. A friend of mine who works in a pizza shop says that meat lovers is their biggest seller, and Hawaiian is 3rd or 4th (after supreme) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.242.57 ( talk) 09:37, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Should someone add something about how italy does not like this idea, and sometimes even protests it?
I totally agree. Hawaiian Pizza is a total absurdity and barbarism. We (italians) don't think that the Hawaiian pizza comes from Germany, simply since we don't suspect that it even exists. And, for us, it's disgusting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.133.131.48 ( talk) 20:41, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
I've seen a number of places in Europe (especially Budapest) where this pizza includes corn on it; is this widespread enough to be mentioned?
also in the german version its stated pizza hawaii is german origin and not Pizza Express
Also also - this is commonly known, especially in England, as a 'Florida Pizza'.
RomTokins (
talk) 04:22, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Is there really a version with "shrimp, green pepper, mushrooms and/or jalapenos" known as Hawaiian? Never seen that ever in the US, anyway. Not saying it doesn't exist, but seems suspect based on my experience. 128.48.204.208 ( talk) 20:58, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
I've never heard of a Hawaiian pizza that didn't use Canadian bacon. If anything you have reversed the facts and the ham one is the least common version. Gune ( talk) 02:36, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
The paragraph about the Panopoulos seems poorly cited. Just by looking at the reference list, I see "according to Wikipedia" in at least two articles. This makes the articles moot as sources, for it would be tantamount to citing Wikipedia itself. I wonder if we would actually have to delete this section because of WP:NOR? Joe Schmedley Talk 00:07, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
"pigs being the most common domesticated animal on the islands"
Hello, The referencing in the article below is circular. The Wikipedia article states that the Hawaiian pizza was created in London ON based on an article that stated that Wikipedia said so. There is absolutely no credible source to this information. Someone keeps putting it back, as a joke. They wrote the article initially as a joke, then a poorly researched article was written with Wikipedia as the source and then Wikipedia sourced that article! Poor journalism! We can do better!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_pizza
Wikistar19 ( talk) 17:28, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Agree. Referencing is circular, so it doesn't make any sense. I have heard tales of italian immigrants in Germany saying that pineapple pizza was already popular in Germany during the 50s. I am removing that part. -- Purple74 ( talk) 06:05, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
It seems inappropriate to be mentioning where the pizza wasn't invented. Also, until there some evidence, I think any mention of the origin should be removed, or replaced with text listing the various origin arguments. -- Steve Stair ( talk) 15:00, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
The inclusion of the J.E. Marsh paragraph is interesting and partially relevant in that the pineapple is the cornerstone of a Hawaiian Pizza. Unfortunately, this article isn't about pineapple alone, and it's intent is not to debate whether or not Australian invented Hawaiian Pizza in the '50's. I moved the uncited paragraph from above the well cited and documented claims, to below it. I also made the tone less argumentative removing "Contrary to the claims below..." I also subtly point out the Australian claim is to pineapple alone. I have quite a few problems with it but the J.E. Marsh paragraph was a good faith edit and does add to the subject, and does cite a single source inline. Sudopeople ( talk) 19:03, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
I've been searching for sources to verify the claims made in the article. So far, the earliest mention I've been able to find in a reliable source is from 1973. Here are newspaper articles that mention "Hawaiian pizza" before 1990:
Does anyone know of any earlier references? Does anyone have access to these archived documents? Mind matrix 16:17, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Poking through the references cited in the Wikipedia article on Hawaiian Pizza, a common thread is this: In the beginning, Wikipedia attributed Hawaiian Pizza to Sam, and then someone decided to investigate this claim by asking Sam, and Sam said yes, so that makes Wikipedia correct, and then these are the sources Wikipedia now uses.
The consequence is that, rather than Wikipedia containing what is obviously original research, it rather contains doubly-indirect original research. Oh, and Sam's personal say-so regarding a matter in which he may have a vested interest, if only because it might drive patronage at his restaurants.
Wikipedia should not be an advertising platform. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.30.163.244 ( talk) 04:12, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
I've asked the State Library of Victoria what's in the cited book on Pineapple pizza. "Nothing", they told me - and sended me a pdf of the document by email. This is what they wrote to me. "I have enclosed the Marsh bibliography but it is just a brief list of books held at a small library with no reference to photos or to the Quigley's. I think someone has just made up the source reference in the Wikipedia item. While there are references on the web to the Quigley's and photos, no-one has produced or referred to a specific photo. I checked the most likely references from the bibliography but there were no pictures of the Quigley's making Hawaiian pizzas. I can't locate any photographs at the major libraries of any pizza making on the Murray."
The only cited source is not valid, and there don't seem to be any other proof for the Quiqley's being the first making Hawaiian pizza. Lexb011 ( talk) 13:21, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
But tomato, olives, peppers (hot and sweet), (borderline on mushrooms) plus a lot of other pizza toppings are technically types of fruit. The classification is unclear here.-- KimYunmi ( talk) 23:08, 4 April 2017 (UTC) I agree. There's a lot of Fruit on pizza. This is an incorrect argument. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.216.125.207 ( talk) 15:22, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
I personally think that this article does not have the suitable size for a Wikipedia article, noting that a typical article can exceed 5 computer screens of text, which this article in particular does not reach up to. I recommend editing the article a bit more than what is currently available
101.175.115.214 ( talk) 05:35, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Someone
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Canadian Pizza. The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 13#Canadian Pizza until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed,
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talk 16:58, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
We probably shouldn't expand the article with further details about celebrity opinions but in case anyone was going to do that I wanna make sure we have the sources just in case. -- 109.79.171.171 ( talk) 20:18, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
This section lacks a source "In 2018, Hawaiian pizza experienced a resurgence in popularity thanks to being featured on the minor football show "The Gooners Podcast". Hosted by Mike Feinberg and Andy Roads, the show was credited with a surge in sales as well as interest in other exotic toppings on pizzas." — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Mrvec (
talk •
contribs) 20:42, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
I've always thought Canadian bacon was the specific form of ham that goes on a Hawaiian pizza. It's what I've heard pretty much everywhere I've been, but there's no mention in the article. Are there any sources for it? Note: I'm not gonna bother with doing it myself. 50.34.104.94 ( talk) 17:48, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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I added a line reporting how Italy is disgusted by this "dish", and my edit was reverted. It is still considered ( although we Italians are offended by) a variety of pizza, and so the opinion most diffused in the country should be present in the article, otherwise it would be fair not to call it even "pizza".-- 62.10.49.89 ( talk) 10:00, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
If you read the article, you would come to the conclusion, that some remarks of the Icelandic president in 2017 and the following statements were the start of a public cultural debate about Hawaiian pizza. However, the disgust about putting pineapple on pizza (or defending it) was already a popular topic in internet culture back then, and those politicians clearly just jumped on the bandwagon. That should be made clear in the article. -- 2A02:1210:248C:1500:3022:84FF:D9D7:AC37 ( talk) 15:07, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
I would like to added a breakdown of the traditional toppings on Hawaiian pizza. Maybe adding a section on ideal cheese blends that would create the ultimate cheese traits and flavors. Like what blend of cheese create the best textures or what cheese blends pair well with the Hawaiian style pizza. Shoelace01 ( talk) 20:28, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
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Since its creation in 2004, Hawaiian Pizza was subject to edits inserting claims that the pizza was invented or created in a particular region or by a particular person. For example, it was invented in Edinburgh Scotland, in Germany, in Hawaii, at the University of Michigan, in Provo Utah, and by the chain Boston Pizza.
One such anonymous edit on
July 15, 2009:
A Canadian restaurant owner named Sam Panopoulos claims to have first come up with the idea of placing pineapples and ham on a regular pizza in 1960 in Chatham, Ontario (citation required)
The edit was replaced by
a competing claim on January 15, 2010, but
reverted shortly thereafter.
On April 30, 2010, Sarah DiGregorio of The Village Voice, in an online article Do Hawaiians Eat Hawaiian Pizza? wrote the following:
But then I started to wonder where Hawaiian pizza came from in the first place. Wikipedia, that font of reliable information, says that in 1960, Sam Panopoulos, owner of the Family Circle Restaurant in Chatham, Ontario, was the first to make it.
DiGregorio made no claim that the Panopoulos story was true, only that it was written on Wikipedia. She contacted local reporter Bob Boughner of the Chatham Daily News. Boughner contacted Panopaulos himself, and
wrote the following:
Aloha! Hawaiian pizza born in Chatham?
Chatham-Kent can claim many firsts -the latest is the creation of Hawaiian pizza...
An article on the history of Hawaiian pizza credits Panopoulos with introducing the dish to the world in 1960 at the Family Circle Restaurant in Chatham. Sarah DiGregorio, a staff writer with the Village Voice, a newspaper in New York, called The Chatham Daily News as part of her investigation into the origin of Hawaiian pizza. She said an article on Wikipedia credits Panopoulos with inventing the idea of putting pineapples and ham on pizza in 1960.
The only sources Boughner refers to are Wikipedia, the DiGregorio article about Wikipedia, and Panopoulos himself. The only source DiGregorio refers to is Wikipedia. Boughner's article was the basis for
an additional interview with Panopoulos by the Toronto Sun, which stated:
According to Wikipedia, the origins of the pie are closer to the shores of Lake Erie than the Mediterranean or the Pacific. The online encyclopedia says Sam Panopoulos, 76, of London was the first to make the unlikely culinary fusion, at his Chatham restaurant way back in 1962.
These appear to be the original sources from which all further articles post-2010 refer back to, all of which refer ultimately to the
anonymous Wikipedia edit that introduced the Sam Panopoulos story in July 2009
Years later in 2017 a
social media fad and a
tweet from the office of Justin Trudeau triggered a wave of articles which repeated verbatim the Wikipedia content, as well as
additional interviews of Panopoulos.
Has any editor found any written or recorded evidence of "Sam Panopoulos invented Hawaiian Pizza" dating from before
July 15, 2009?
Maybe a menu, an advertisement, a newspaper clipping, an interview, or a photograph? Lwneal ( talk) 04:06, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
This would make a good brief paragraph at Pizza but it's a bit lame all on its own, no?... Wetman 01:17, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Type? Style? Semantics? I nod my oblate-spheroid-shaped overly large homely head in agreement with the Richards bloke advocating this page's info into the general "pizza" page or wherever a listing of pizza-topping-ingredients is listed though actually mentioning "Hawaiian pizza" seems to be a needless use of terminology that detracts from knowledge seeker's quest.
Obbop (
talk) 23:05, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
On this page it claims that 15% of all pizza sales in australia are hawaiin, yet on the main page for pizza it says 20%. Other then being a hawaiin pizza eater and an Australian, i have no knowledge of this. So if someone has the knowledge and sources to back it up, could you make a choice. thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.4.74.65 ( talk) 19:26, 25 January 2007 (UTC).
I personally would like to see more evidence of this. A friend of mine who works in a pizza shop says that meat lovers is their biggest seller, and Hawaiian is 3rd or 4th (after supreme) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.242.57 ( talk) 09:37, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Should someone add something about how italy does not like this idea, and sometimes even protests it?
I totally agree. Hawaiian Pizza is a total absurdity and barbarism. We (italians) don't think that the Hawaiian pizza comes from Germany, simply since we don't suspect that it even exists. And, for us, it's disgusting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.133.131.48 ( talk) 20:41, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
I've seen a number of places in Europe (especially Budapest) where this pizza includes corn on it; is this widespread enough to be mentioned?
also in the german version its stated pizza hawaii is german origin and not Pizza Express
Also also - this is commonly known, especially in England, as a 'Florida Pizza'.
RomTokins (
talk) 04:22, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Is there really a version with "shrimp, green pepper, mushrooms and/or jalapenos" known as Hawaiian? Never seen that ever in the US, anyway. Not saying it doesn't exist, but seems suspect based on my experience. 128.48.204.208 ( talk) 20:58, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
I've never heard of a Hawaiian pizza that didn't use Canadian bacon. If anything you have reversed the facts and the ham one is the least common version. Gune ( talk) 02:36, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
The paragraph about the Panopoulos seems poorly cited. Just by looking at the reference list, I see "according to Wikipedia" in at least two articles. This makes the articles moot as sources, for it would be tantamount to citing Wikipedia itself. I wonder if we would actually have to delete this section because of WP:NOR? Joe Schmedley Talk 00:07, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
"pigs being the most common domesticated animal on the islands"
Hello, The referencing in the article below is circular. The Wikipedia article states that the Hawaiian pizza was created in London ON based on an article that stated that Wikipedia said so. There is absolutely no credible source to this information. Someone keeps putting it back, as a joke. They wrote the article initially as a joke, then a poorly researched article was written with Wikipedia as the source and then Wikipedia sourced that article! Poor journalism! We can do better!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_pizza
Wikistar19 ( talk) 17:28, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Agree. Referencing is circular, so it doesn't make any sense. I have heard tales of italian immigrants in Germany saying that pineapple pizza was already popular in Germany during the 50s. I am removing that part. -- Purple74 ( talk) 06:05, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
It seems inappropriate to be mentioning where the pizza wasn't invented. Also, until there some evidence, I think any mention of the origin should be removed, or replaced with text listing the various origin arguments. -- Steve Stair ( talk) 15:00, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
The inclusion of the J.E. Marsh paragraph is interesting and partially relevant in that the pineapple is the cornerstone of a Hawaiian Pizza. Unfortunately, this article isn't about pineapple alone, and it's intent is not to debate whether or not Australian invented Hawaiian Pizza in the '50's. I moved the uncited paragraph from above the well cited and documented claims, to below it. I also made the tone less argumentative removing "Contrary to the claims below..." I also subtly point out the Australian claim is to pineapple alone. I have quite a few problems with it but the J.E. Marsh paragraph was a good faith edit and does add to the subject, and does cite a single source inline. Sudopeople ( talk) 19:03, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
I've been searching for sources to verify the claims made in the article. So far, the earliest mention I've been able to find in a reliable source is from 1973. Here are newspaper articles that mention "Hawaiian pizza" before 1990:
Does anyone know of any earlier references? Does anyone have access to these archived documents? Mind matrix 16:17, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Poking through the references cited in the Wikipedia article on Hawaiian Pizza, a common thread is this: In the beginning, Wikipedia attributed Hawaiian Pizza to Sam, and then someone decided to investigate this claim by asking Sam, and Sam said yes, so that makes Wikipedia correct, and then these are the sources Wikipedia now uses.
The consequence is that, rather than Wikipedia containing what is obviously original research, it rather contains doubly-indirect original research. Oh, and Sam's personal say-so regarding a matter in which he may have a vested interest, if only because it might drive patronage at his restaurants.
Wikipedia should not be an advertising platform. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.30.163.244 ( talk) 04:12, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
I've asked the State Library of Victoria what's in the cited book on Pineapple pizza. "Nothing", they told me - and sended me a pdf of the document by email. This is what they wrote to me. "I have enclosed the Marsh bibliography but it is just a brief list of books held at a small library with no reference to photos or to the Quigley's. I think someone has just made up the source reference in the Wikipedia item. While there are references on the web to the Quigley's and photos, no-one has produced or referred to a specific photo. I checked the most likely references from the bibliography but there were no pictures of the Quigley's making Hawaiian pizzas. I can't locate any photographs at the major libraries of any pizza making on the Murray."
The only cited source is not valid, and there don't seem to be any other proof for the Quiqley's being the first making Hawaiian pizza. Lexb011 ( talk) 13:21, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
But tomato, olives, peppers (hot and sweet), (borderline on mushrooms) plus a lot of other pizza toppings are technically types of fruit. The classification is unclear here.-- KimYunmi ( talk) 23:08, 4 April 2017 (UTC) I agree. There's a lot of Fruit on pizza. This is an incorrect argument. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.216.125.207 ( talk) 15:22, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
I personally think that this article does not have the suitable size for a Wikipedia article, noting that a typical article can exceed 5 computer screens of text, which this article in particular does not reach up to. I recommend editing the article a bit more than what is currently available
101.175.115.214 ( talk) 05:35, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Someone
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Canadian Pizza. The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 13#Canadian Pizza until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed,
Rosguill
talk 16:58, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
We probably shouldn't expand the article with further details about celebrity opinions but in case anyone was going to do that I wanna make sure we have the sources just in case. -- 109.79.171.171 ( talk) 20:18, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
This section lacks a source "In 2018, Hawaiian pizza experienced a resurgence in popularity thanks to being featured on the minor football show "The Gooners Podcast". Hosted by Mike Feinberg and Andy Roads, the show was credited with a surge in sales as well as interest in other exotic toppings on pizzas." — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Mrvec (
talk •
contribs) 20:42, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
I've always thought Canadian bacon was the specific form of ham that goes on a Hawaiian pizza. It's what I've heard pretty much everywhere I've been, but there's no mention in the article. Are there any sources for it? Note: I'm not gonna bother with doing it myself. 50.34.104.94 ( talk) 17:48, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 11 January 2019 and 20 April 2019. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Erinhorne.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 23:09, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
I added a line reporting how Italy is disgusted by this "dish", and my edit was reverted. It is still considered ( although we Italians are offended by) a variety of pizza, and so the opinion most diffused in the country should be present in the article, otherwise it would be fair not to call it even "pizza".-- 62.10.49.89 ( talk) 10:00, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
If you read the article, you would come to the conclusion, that some remarks of the Icelandic president in 2017 and the following statements were the start of a public cultural debate about Hawaiian pizza. However, the disgust about putting pineapple on pizza (or defending it) was already a popular topic in internet culture back then, and those politicians clearly just jumped on the bandwagon. That should be made clear in the article. -- 2A02:1210:248C:1500:3022:84FF:D9D7:AC37 ( talk) 15:07, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
I would like to added a breakdown of the traditional toppings on Hawaiian pizza. Maybe adding a section on ideal cheese blends that would create the ultimate cheese traits and flavors. Like what blend of cheese create the best textures or what cheese blends pair well with the Hawaiian style pizza. Shoelace01 ( talk) 20:28, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 15 August 2022 and 7 December 2022. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
KMD2022,
Shoelace01,
TruLegend3 (
article contribs). Peer reviewers:
Mlclark1,
Vmcostan,
Theonly.tywhite,
Tmjacks7,
Ryandelorbe.
— Assignment last updated by Dsackey ( talk) 18:13, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
Since its creation in 2004, Hawaiian Pizza was subject to edits inserting claims that the pizza was invented or created in a particular region or by a particular person. For example, it was invented in Edinburgh Scotland, in Germany, in Hawaii, at the University of Michigan, in Provo Utah, and by the chain Boston Pizza.
One such anonymous edit on
July 15, 2009:
A Canadian restaurant owner named Sam Panopoulos claims to have first come up with the idea of placing pineapples and ham on a regular pizza in 1960 in Chatham, Ontario (citation required)
The edit was replaced by
a competing claim on January 15, 2010, but
reverted shortly thereafter.
On April 30, 2010, Sarah DiGregorio of The Village Voice, in an online article Do Hawaiians Eat Hawaiian Pizza? wrote the following:
But then I started to wonder where Hawaiian pizza came from in the first place. Wikipedia, that font of reliable information, says that in 1960, Sam Panopoulos, owner of the Family Circle Restaurant in Chatham, Ontario, was the first to make it.
DiGregorio made no claim that the Panopoulos story was true, only that it was written on Wikipedia. She contacted local reporter Bob Boughner of the Chatham Daily News. Boughner contacted Panopaulos himself, and
wrote the following:
Aloha! Hawaiian pizza born in Chatham?
Chatham-Kent can claim many firsts -the latest is the creation of Hawaiian pizza...
An article on the history of Hawaiian pizza credits Panopoulos with introducing the dish to the world in 1960 at the Family Circle Restaurant in Chatham. Sarah DiGregorio, a staff writer with the Village Voice, a newspaper in New York, called The Chatham Daily News as part of her investigation into the origin of Hawaiian pizza. She said an article on Wikipedia credits Panopoulos with inventing the idea of putting pineapples and ham on pizza in 1960.
The only sources Boughner refers to are Wikipedia, the DiGregorio article about Wikipedia, and Panopoulos himself. The only source DiGregorio refers to is Wikipedia. Boughner's article was the basis for
an additional interview with Panopoulos by the Toronto Sun, which stated:
According to Wikipedia, the origins of the pie are closer to the shores of Lake Erie than the Mediterranean or the Pacific. The online encyclopedia says Sam Panopoulos, 76, of London was the first to make the unlikely culinary fusion, at his Chatham restaurant way back in 1962.
These appear to be the original sources from which all further articles post-2010 refer back to, all of which refer ultimately to the
anonymous Wikipedia edit that introduced the Sam Panopoulos story in July 2009
Years later in 2017 a
social media fad and a
tweet from the office of Justin Trudeau triggered a wave of articles which repeated verbatim the Wikipedia content, as well as
additional interviews of Panopoulos.
Has any editor found any written or recorded evidence of "Sam Panopoulos invented Hawaiian Pizza" dating from before
July 15, 2009?
Maybe a menu, an advertisement, a newspaper clipping, an interview, or a photograph? Lwneal ( talk) 04:06, 23 May 2023 (UTC)