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Reviewed References and edited some lines to bring statements in-line with references, also correcting some references to proper wikipedia format. Also Searched for and found other references where they were needed.-- Daishi808 19:26, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
This article is written in a conversational style, it needs to be re-worked. What were the protesters protesting exactly? I have no way of knowing. - 206.71.201.43 02:05, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
The "facts" section of this article are including half-truths and are quite misleading. -- Daishi808 09:07, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Removed "Boycott the superferry" in links section. Come on folks thats not even faking a NPOV. -- Daishi808 18:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I say that it is not wrong to but the "Boycott Superferry" but its not right also. The Reason is this page is mainly on the Ferry itself. Really the Boycott is on a matter of opinion. -- Zapper258 20:58, 22 January 2008 (HST)
I believe the article should be locked from unregistered and newly registered users until the controversy dies down -- Daishi808 09:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
This article should be split, with one page containing facts on the ferry and it's history, and a small section that mentions there is controversy, which links to another article which contains arguments for and against the superferrys operation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.235.160.192 ( talk) 08:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
With everyone trying to edit this article, I think there needs to be clear organization here. I took a stab at creating headings to organize things. The material in the Facts section probably should be folded into the revised article. Also, the way it looks right now it looks heavy on post-launch and really thin on the early history (formation and the early history of the controversy). Probably need more info from the newspapers, etc. Also, the conversational tone has got to go. KeithH 08:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm requesting that someone gather a better, perhaps larger image of the ferry and a map or it's route for this page... -- Mercola over Merck ( talk) 18:17, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
What I really miss in this article so far is a summary of the controversy... the forest for the trees.... mendicott.com ( talk) 01:26, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Anything objections, additions, or general thoughts? -- MercolaOverMerck♫ ( talk) 04:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Due to these edits by a WP:SPA that removed all of the criticism, I have added a NPOV tag. Viriditas ( talk) 23:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I have been meaning to do a history of interisland transportation (Inter Island Steam Navigation - an unreferenced link already in Wikipedia from Hawaiian Airlines its scion, Wilder Lines - yep same as the street in Honolulu, etc.) There is only one book that covers this, and I have some photocopies of old Advertiser Articles from the 1950s and 1960s. Edition 500 printed by UH Press: Schooner from Windward 1983 by Mifflin Thomas. It's long past copyright & the author is dead so I can probably include some pix. Incredible photos, maps, and tariffs from as far back as 1860. IMHO, this is why the Eddie Aikau reference in the History section is important: ferries and steamships were the fabric of interisland transportation from the Polynesians until the 1950s - but since we grew aluminum wings we forgot it all. Unless you talk to an old timer like Admiral Alvey Wright (now 99 - used to be head of DOT here, still sharp as a tack) it's getting lost fast. -- Telebyte ( talk) 06:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Because of it’s size, speed and course over open ocean, one of the major problems with the Hawaii Superferry is the nausea induced by the rocking of the vessel on the water or seasickness. Each seat contains motion sickness bags commonly found on airplanes if passengers need to vomit. The crew is also equipped with machines to clean soiled carpet and upholstery during voyages.
What was the ferry's scheduled travel time, and how did that compare to air travel? What competing methods for transporting cars were there, and what was the cost differential? -- Beland ( talk) 17:36, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Militarization. It is pointed out that the Superferry's CEO, John F. Lehman, is a former U.S. Navy secretary whose expertise is in the acquisition of private endeavors with military applications,[17] and that the Superferry is designed to be able to transport military equipment and vehicles, including Stryker combat vehicles
Are you freakin' kidding me? That's an argument? Solicitr ( talk) 01:13, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
The website in the Infobox -- -- appears no longer to be in service. It just leads to one of those standard "parked" pages, full of links to scammy-looking sites, and has a message at the top that the domain name "may be for sale."
I'm kind of a newbie to editing Wikipedia, and so I apologize if a general policy is written down somewhere that I didn't find, but what's the best-practices way to deal with a situation like this? Seems to me we don't want to direct people to a site that's no longer of use (and could potentially be malicious). Should the website line in the Infobox just be deleted? Should the URL be deleted, but a message put in its place about the site no longer being active? Should the URL be replaced with a link to the Wayback Machine, if an appropriate one exists?
Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks. bjkeefe ( talk) 14:53, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Could someone update that the US Navy has bought the vessels as of May of this year. I seem to be unable to fix a reference problem I'm having. Mrld ( talk) 23:54, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/news/2012/05/08/navy-renames-former-hawaii-superferry.html
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Reviewed References and edited some lines to bring statements in-line with references, also correcting some references to proper wikipedia format. Also Searched for and found other references where they were needed.-- Daishi808 19:26, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
This article is written in a conversational style, it needs to be re-worked. What were the protesters protesting exactly? I have no way of knowing. - 206.71.201.43 02:05, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
The "facts" section of this article are including half-truths and are quite misleading. -- Daishi808 09:07, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Removed "Boycott the superferry" in links section. Come on folks thats not even faking a NPOV. -- Daishi808 18:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I say that it is not wrong to but the "Boycott Superferry" but its not right also. The Reason is this page is mainly on the Ferry itself. Really the Boycott is on a matter of opinion. -- Zapper258 20:58, 22 January 2008 (HST)
I believe the article should be locked from unregistered and newly registered users until the controversy dies down -- Daishi808 09:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
This article should be split, with one page containing facts on the ferry and it's history, and a small section that mentions there is controversy, which links to another article which contains arguments for and against the superferrys operation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.235.160.192 ( talk) 08:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
With everyone trying to edit this article, I think there needs to be clear organization here. I took a stab at creating headings to organize things. The material in the Facts section probably should be folded into the revised article. Also, the way it looks right now it looks heavy on post-launch and really thin on the early history (formation and the early history of the controversy). Probably need more info from the newspapers, etc. Also, the conversational tone has got to go. KeithH 08:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm requesting that someone gather a better, perhaps larger image of the ferry and a map or it's route for this page... -- Mercola over Merck ( talk) 18:17, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
What I really miss in this article so far is a summary of the controversy... the forest for the trees.... mendicott.com ( talk) 01:26, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Anything objections, additions, or general thoughts? -- MercolaOverMerck♫ ( talk) 04:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Due to these edits by a WP:SPA that removed all of the criticism, I have added a NPOV tag. Viriditas ( talk) 23:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I have been meaning to do a history of interisland transportation (Inter Island Steam Navigation - an unreferenced link already in Wikipedia from Hawaiian Airlines its scion, Wilder Lines - yep same as the street in Honolulu, etc.) There is only one book that covers this, and I have some photocopies of old Advertiser Articles from the 1950s and 1960s. Edition 500 printed by UH Press: Schooner from Windward 1983 by Mifflin Thomas. It's long past copyright & the author is dead so I can probably include some pix. Incredible photos, maps, and tariffs from as far back as 1860. IMHO, this is why the Eddie Aikau reference in the History section is important: ferries and steamships were the fabric of interisland transportation from the Polynesians until the 1950s - but since we grew aluminum wings we forgot it all. Unless you talk to an old timer like Admiral Alvey Wright (now 99 - used to be head of DOT here, still sharp as a tack) it's getting lost fast. -- Telebyte ( talk) 06:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Because of it’s size, speed and course over open ocean, one of the major problems with the Hawaii Superferry is the nausea induced by the rocking of the vessel on the water or seasickness. Each seat contains motion sickness bags commonly found on airplanes if passengers need to vomit. The crew is also equipped with machines to clean soiled carpet and upholstery during voyages.
What was the ferry's scheduled travel time, and how did that compare to air travel? What competing methods for transporting cars were there, and what was the cost differential? -- Beland ( talk) 17:36, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Militarization. It is pointed out that the Superferry's CEO, John F. Lehman, is a former U.S. Navy secretary whose expertise is in the acquisition of private endeavors with military applications,[17] and that the Superferry is designed to be able to transport military equipment and vehicles, including Stryker combat vehicles
Are you freakin' kidding me? That's an argument? Solicitr ( talk) 01:13, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
The website in the Infobox -- -- appears no longer to be in service. It just leads to one of those standard "parked" pages, full of links to scammy-looking sites, and has a message at the top that the domain name "may be for sale."
I'm kind of a newbie to editing Wikipedia, and so I apologize if a general policy is written down somewhere that I didn't find, but what's the best-practices way to deal with a situation like this? Seems to me we don't want to direct people to a site that's no longer of use (and could potentially be malicious). Should the website line in the Infobox just be deleted? Should the URL be deleted, but a message put in its place about the site no longer being active? Should the URL be replaced with a link to the Wayback Machine, if an appropriate one exists?
Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks. bjkeefe ( talk) 14:53, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Could someone update that the US Navy has bought the vessels as of May of this year. I seem to be unable to fix a reference problem I'm having. Mrld ( talk) 23:54, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/news/2012/05/08/navy-renames-former-hawaii-superferry.html