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Can I ask you why you've changed the amendments I sent in?
I'm told wikipedia uses only sources which are 'relable' and 'verifiable'. But surely the source I quoted is both of those? ? It's a contemporary newspaper entry. You can't get much more reliable than that,. And I've given you chapter and verse (the exact edition), so you can easily verify it. It announces the birth of a son to the Greenhalgh which another website confirms was Harwood's father. Why is that not acceptable to you? I can add that the date of birth I sent you is also on his birth certificate. It was sent to the compiler of englandfootballonline by the Greenhalgh family historian. Now, if wikipedia really does 'verify' sources, all you need to do is check Harwood Greenhalgh's birth certificate in Somerset House. Or at least contact Chris Goodwin at englandfootballonline (wikipedia quotes his site extensively).
As for the first name Greenhalgh was known by, why won't you accept the evidence from two separate Censuses? I honestly can't understand why you'd rather accept what's in a modern website (which you'vbe simply copied, not 'verified') instead of a contemporary source. Again, the Census details come from Chris Goodwin. It should be an easy task to check with him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.4.248 ( talk) 12:18, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
I agree that the Censuses differ. But they're notorious for listing people by their first names even when they were known by something else - check out England players Hubert Heron, Howard Vaughton, and Alfred Spouncer, who are wrongly listed as George Heron, Oliver Vaughton, and William Spouncer. And since this is common parctice, when you see someone referred to by his second name, you have to believe that's what he was known by. I mean, no Census would GUESS someone was called by his second name. So when the 1861 and 1901 Censuses both call him Harwood, it's surely a serious clue. At the very least, shouldn't you add these Censuses' input as a footnote? Otherwise readers will think he was DEFINITELY known as DErnest... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.4.248 ( talk) 00:32, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Glad to see you've changed it to to Harwood Greenhalgh from Ernest Greenhalgh. Further proof comes from an eventual reply to my query on ourmansfieldandarea.org.uk website: 'In reply to Cris Freddi, yes, he is just referred to as Harwood Greenhalgh on the reverse of the painting...Harwood did not form part of the name of the other 4 sons'. Cris Freddi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.5.1 ( talk) 02:15, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
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Can I ask you why you've changed the amendments I sent in?
I'm told wikipedia uses only sources which are 'relable' and 'verifiable'. But surely the source I quoted is both of those? ? It's a contemporary newspaper entry. You can't get much more reliable than that,. And I've given you chapter and verse (the exact edition), so you can easily verify it. It announces the birth of a son to the Greenhalgh which another website confirms was Harwood's father. Why is that not acceptable to you? I can add that the date of birth I sent you is also on his birth certificate. It was sent to the compiler of englandfootballonline by the Greenhalgh family historian. Now, if wikipedia really does 'verify' sources, all you need to do is check Harwood Greenhalgh's birth certificate in Somerset House. Or at least contact Chris Goodwin at englandfootballonline (wikipedia quotes his site extensively).
As for the first name Greenhalgh was known by, why won't you accept the evidence from two separate Censuses? I honestly can't understand why you'd rather accept what's in a modern website (which you'vbe simply copied, not 'verified') instead of a contemporary source. Again, the Census details come from Chris Goodwin. It should be an easy task to check with him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.4.248 ( talk) 12:18, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
I agree that the Censuses differ. But they're notorious for listing people by their first names even when they were known by something else - check out England players Hubert Heron, Howard Vaughton, and Alfred Spouncer, who are wrongly listed as George Heron, Oliver Vaughton, and William Spouncer. And since this is common parctice, when you see someone referred to by his second name, you have to believe that's what he was known by. I mean, no Census would GUESS someone was called by his second name. So when the 1861 and 1901 Censuses both call him Harwood, it's surely a serious clue. At the very least, shouldn't you add these Censuses' input as a footnote? Otherwise readers will think he was DEFINITELY known as DErnest... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.4.248 ( talk) 00:32, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Glad to see you've changed it to to Harwood Greenhalgh from Ernest Greenhalgh. Further proof comes from an eventual reply to my query on ourmansfieldandarea.org.uk website: 'In reply to Cris Freddi, yes, he is just referred to as Harwood Greenhalgh on the reverse of the painting...Harwood did not form part of the name of the other 4 sons'. Cris Freddi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.5.1 ( talk) 02:15, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
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