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In the section 2005-2017, "An analysis of Academy Award acceptance speeches from 1966 to 2016 found that Weinstein had been thanked or praised in 34 speeches—as many times as God, and second only to Steven Spielberg (with 43 mentions).", I feel like "-as many times as God," is unneeded and doesn't serve the neutral tone of Wikipedia. Do the rest of you agree? MLC 30975 ( talk) 15:35, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
I've changed the lead sentence to conform to the correct order of English adjectives (age comes before origin). Technically, this introduces an ambiguity as to whether he's a former producer or a former American. Since the latter isn't common wording, I went with "former American film producer", but if anyone objects, I'd recommend going with "former producer of American films" rather than the previous wording, as it sounds very wrong. – Robin Hood (talk) 14:11, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
Subject: Urgent Proposal for Revising Harvey Weinstein's Wikipedia Entry to Emphasise Convicted Sex Offender Status
Dear Wikipedia Editors,
I am writing to suggest an imperative revision to the structure of Harvey Weinstein's Wikipedia entry, advocating for the prominent positioning of his status as a convicted sex offender. This proposal is driven by several critical considerations:
Legal Precedence and Public Concern: The criminal convictions of Harvey Weinstein have had a profound influence on the entertainment sector, the dialogue surrounding sexual misconduct, and the judicial processes pertaining to such offences. The centrality of these convictions in contemporary discourse on sexual harassment and the #MeToo movement underscores the necessity of reflecting this aspect of Weinstein's biography with due prominence, given its considerable public interest and historical importance.
Commitment to Neutrality and Verifiability: Aligning with Wikipedia's dedication to neutrality, the proposed adjustment aims not to disproportionately highlight the negative facets of Weinstein's life, but to accurately present the legal and social consequences of his actions as substantiated by his convictions. The information concerning his convictions is thoroughly documented and verifiable, meeting Wikipedia's standards for reliable sources.
Advocacy for Victim Rights and Awareness: Accentuating Weinstein's status as a convicted sex offender is congruent with the broader societal endeavours to recognise and address the impact of sexual misconduct. It supports victims' rights by acknowledging the legal acknowledgment of their experiences and the repercussions faced by the perpetrator.
Adherence to Biographical Standards: Wikipedia's guidelines for biographies of living persons stress the importance of equitably representing different facets of an individual's life. Considering the severity of Weinstein's convictions in relation to his professional accomplishments, revising the article to foreground his criminal status would offer a more equitable and precise depiction of his public persona.
I propose that the introduction be amended to conspicuously include Weinstein's status as a convicted sex offender, succeeded by a comprehensive account of his professional achievements and contributions to the film industry. This approach would ensure an exhaustive and balanced biography that acknowledges both Weinstein's influence on the entertainment industry and the grave legal and ethical transgressions he has committed.
Implementing this change would significantly enhance the article's alignment with Wikipedia's foundational principles of neutrality, verifiability, and serving the public interest. I anticipate your consideration of this urgent proposal.
Kind regards,
Elizabeth G — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eliizabeth G ( talk • contribs) 01:54, March 29, 2024 (UTC) — Eliizabeth G ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
I propose that the introduction be amended to conspicuously include Weinstein's status as a convicted sex offenderThis is already the case. The lead sentence as of right now says he
is an American former film producer and convicted sex offenderand then two of the following three lead paragraphs are about his sex offenses while one is about what he's actually notable for, being a film producer. The lead is giving undue weight to the sex offenses as it is. Past discussions indicate that terms like "sex offender" and "convicted felon" are too loaded for the opening sentence. – Muboshgu ( talk) 15:13, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. – Muboshgu ( talk) 18:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Any idea why the famous Courtney Love quote is not included here? It showcases how pervasive the knowledge of Weinstein's abuses where in 2005 well before he was indicted. Here's some RS: CNN [1], Slate [2], CBS [3], Billboard [4], and People [5].
2601:19E:427E:5BB0:BC4B:EDD7:9F02:52C9 ( talk) 22:30, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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In the section 2005-2017, "An analysis of Academy Award acceptance speeches from 1966 to 2016 found that Weinstein had been thanked or praised in 34 speeches—as many times as God, and second only to Steven Spielberg (with 43 mentions).", I feel like "-as many times as God," is unneeded and doesn't serve the neutral tone of Wikipedia. Do the rest of you agree? MLC 30975 ( talk) 15:35, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
I've changed the lead sentence to conform to the correct order of English adjectives (age comes before origin). Technically, this introduces an ambiguity as to whether he's a former producer or a former American. Since the latter isn't common wording, I went with "former American film producer", but if anyone objects, I'd recommend going with "former producer of American films" rather than the previous wording, as it sounds very wrong. – Robin Hood (talk) 14:11, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
Subject: Urgent Proposal for Revising Harvey Weinstein's Wikipedia Entry to Emphasise Convicted Sex Offender Status
Dear Wikipedia Editors,
I am writing to suggest an imperative revision to the structure of Harvey Weinstein's Wikipedia entry, advocating for the prominent positioning of his status as a convicted sex offender. This proposal is driven by several critical considerations:
Legal Precedence and Public Concern: The criminal convictions of Harvey Weinstein have had a profound influence on the entertainment sector, the dialogue surrounding sexual misconduct, and the judicial processes pertaining to such offences. The centrality of these convictions in contemporary discourse on sexual harassment and the #MeToo movement underscores the necessity of reflecting this aspect of Weinstein's biography with due prominence, given its considerable public interest and historical importance.
Commitment to Neutrality and Verifiability: Aligning with Wikipedia's dedication to neutrality, the proposed adjustment aims not to disproportionately highlight the negative facets of Weinstein's life, but to accurately present the legal and social consequences of his actions as substantiated by his convictions. The information concerning his convictions is thoroughly documented and verifiable, meeting Wikipedia's standards for reliable sources.
Advocacy for Victim Rights and Awareness: Accentuating Weinstein's status as a convicted sex offender is congruent with the broader societal endeavours to recognise and address the impact of sexual misconduct. It supports victims' rights by acknowledging the legal acknowledgment of their experiences and the repercussions faced by the perpetrator.
Adherence to Biographical Standards: Wikipedia's guidelines for biographies of living persons stress the importance of equitably representing different facets of an individual's life. Considering the severity of Weinstein's convictions in relation to his professional accomplishments, revising the article to foreground his criminal status would offer a more equitable and precise depiction of his public persona.
I propose that the introduction be amended to conspicuously include Weinstein's status as a convicted sex offender, succeeded by a comprehensive account of his professional achievements and contributions to the film industry. This approach would ensure an exhaustive and balanced biography that acknowledges both Weinstein's influence on the entertainment industry and the grave legal and ethical transgressions he has committed.
Implementing this change would significantly enhance the article's alignment with Wikipedia's foundational principles of neutrality, verifiability, and serving the public interest. I anticipate your consideration of this urgent proposal.
Kind regards,
Elizabeth G — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eliizabeth G ( talk • contribs) 01:54, March 29, 2024 (UTC) — Eliizabeth G ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
I propose that the introduction be amended to conspicuously include Weinstein's status as a convicted sex offenderThis is already the case. The lead sentence as of right now says he
is an American former film producer and convicted sex offenderand then two of the following three lead paragraphs are about his sex offenses while one is about what he's actually notable for, being a film producer. The lead is giving undue weight to the sex offenses as it is. Past discussions indicate that terms like "sex offender" and "convicted felon" are too loaded for the opening sentence. – Muboshgu ( talk) 15:13, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. – Muboshgu ( talk) 18:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Any idea why the famous Courtney Love quote is not included here? It showcases how pervasive the knowledge of Weinstein's abuses where in 2005 well before he was indicted. Here's some RS: CNN [1], Slate [2], CBS [3], Billboard [4], and People [5].
2601:19E:427E:5BB0:BC4B:EDD7:9F02:52C9 ( talk) 22:30, 26 April 2024 (UTC)