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how does it work that a portion of one faith (some Hellenics moving to Platonism and Neoplatonism) causes a complete questioning of an entire term? a large number of Celtic Reconstructionist Pagans, for instance, express hard polytheist sentiments, and are not accepting of a Platonist or Neoplatonist interpretation. i think that section needs some serious revision. Whateley23 20:53, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I have my doubts that " a large number of Celtic Reconstructionist Pagans" even exist, never mind advocating hard polytheism. My best efforts to establish the existence of Celtic Reconstructionist Pagans resulted in a reasonable estimate that there are perhaps a dozen active proponents. I would be grateful to a solid reference to anyone advocating hard polytheism, no need to go into "large numbers". -- dab (đł) 19:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
There were a lot of Greeks, and Greek culture covered a long period; it's misleading to say they all thought the gods were distinct and separate. In the Greek magical papyri (which are thought to express popular, rather than obscure beliefs) there are several examples of multiple goddesses being seen as merely aspects of a single great goddess. And in Orphism, Pan and Zeus and Dionysus were seen as aspects of a single being, the Phanes-Protogonos. The Greeks were also quick to adopt foreign gods under the names of domestic deities, e.g. the Ephesian Artemis, or the god of Mendes being described as the Egyptian Pan! I think we need to find a better example of hard polytheism! Fuzzypeg â» 03:27, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree. The Aztec religion might be a better example of a "purer" hard polytheistic religion, rather the article at it's current stance, which is horrible. The Egyptian religion might be another religion to stay away from in this article. Towards the end the Egyptian religon almost was boderline monetheistic (And the orgin of that concept, pre Abrahamic religion.) & many gods were fused togather or started to, like Isis and Hathor, Amun and Re and so on. Just look the Isis for example! In some cases she was seen as the manfestation fo all gods and goddesses! In fact the Egyptian religion is sometimes named as monolatry, not a good comcept for the support of "hard" polytheism.
Xuchilbara 03:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Aztec religion is also a poor example as they too had monistic philosophical beliefs underlying the state cult ( http://www.iep.utm.edu/a/aztec.htm#H2), just as amongst the Orphics and Neoplatonists in Greek religion. I think that, with careful examination, you will find this is the case in virtually all sophisticated 'polytheistic' cultures. -Geoffrey Bain âPreceding unsigned comment added by 74.131.225.45 ( talk) 05:01, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Is this term a neologism? It has very few google hits and I can't find any reliable sources. JoshuaZ 03:37, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
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how does it work that a portion of one faith (some Hellenics moving to Platonism and Neoplatonism) causes a complete questioning of an entire term? a large number of Celtic Reconstructionist Pagans, for instance, express hard polytheist sentiments, and are not accepting of a Platonist or Neoplatonist interpretation. i think that section needs some serious revision. Whateley23 20:53, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I have my doubts that " a large number of Celtic Reconstructionist Pagans" even exist, never mind advocating hard polytheism. My best efforts to establish the existence of Celtic Reconstructionist Pagans resulted in a reasonable estimate that there are perhaps a dozen active proponents. I would be grateful to a solid reference to anyone advocating hard polytheism, no need to go into "large numbers". -- dab (đł) 19:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
There were a lot of Greeks, and Greek culture covered a long period; it's misleading to say they all thought the gods were distinct and separate. In the Greek magical papyri (which are thought to express popular, rather than obscure beliefs) there are several examples of multiple goddesses being seen as merely aspects of a single great goddess. And in Orphism, Pan and Zeus and Dionysus were seen as aspects of a single being, the Phanes-Protogonos. The Greeks were also quick to adopt foreign gods under the names of domestic deities, e.g. the Ephesian Artemis, or the god of Mendes being described as the Egyptian Pan! I think we need to find a better example of hard polytheism! Fuzzypeg â» 03:27, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree. The Aztec religion might be a better example of a "purer" hard polytheistic religion, rather the article at it's current stance, which is horrible. The Egyptian religion might be another religion to stay away from in this article. Towards the end the Egyptian religon almost was boderline monetheistic (And the orgin of that concept, pre Abrahamic religion.) & many gods were fused togather or started to, like Isis and Hathor, Amun and Re and so on. Just look the Isis for example! In some cases she was seen as the manfestation fo all gods and goddesses! In fact the Egyptian religion is sometimes named as monolatry, not a good comcept for the support of "hard" polytheism.
Xuchilbara 03:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Aztec religion is also a poor example as they too had monistic philosophical beliefs underlying the state cult ( http://www.iep.utm.edu/a/aztec.htm#H2), just as amongst the Orphics and Neoplatonists in Greek religion. I think that, with careful examination, you will find this is the case in virtually all sophisticated 'polytheistic' cultures. -Geoffrey Bain âPreceding unsigned comment added by 74.131.225.45 ( talk) 05:01, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Is this term a neologism? It has very few google hits and I can't find any reliable sources. JoshuaZ 03:37, 27 May 2007 (UTC)