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Can anyone provide information on the new vedeo for HRH, snow&flames version directed by Antti Jokinen, which was shown on ESC 2007? Garret Beaumain 11:12, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the internal links to "Hallelujah" in the opening phrase and "Heaven" and "Hell" in the other single. I don't think they contribute to the article as a whole. See Wikipedia:Only make links that are relevant to the context, if someone disagrees with this action say here. Tartan 10:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Do not remove links you do not understand. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lordi#.22Illegal.22_mp3-link_removed apecat 14:58, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Straightened out the English a bit and changed the (dead) link from Lordi's page to YouTube. If anyone can find a better link to the video, it'd be much appreciated. Snowgrouse 15:28, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
There are no high schools in Finland.
Cheerleaders aren't big either. I assumed the video was parodying US high schools, myself:). It doesn't look like a Finnish lukio to me either... Snowgrouse 18:00, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
You can interpret the video as Suomineito (young female, Finnish version of for example Uncle Sam representing the country) without self-esteem, un-noticed in school, ignored by the popular girls. The monsters of Lordi gives her self-esteem and power to rule. So I see it, anyway.
--The above interpretation seems to hinge upon the Eurovision thing, but the video predates that. Also, the leading lady doesn't exactly look like the stereotypical image of Maiden Finland, considering she's Asian. It's the blonde cheerleaders who are more stereotypically Finnish:)... Snowgrouse 19:39, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Most Finnish people are dark haired though. Blonde would be stereotypically Scandinavian. 12:57, 15 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.193.116 ( talk)
Maybe the genre description of their "music" should be described from an independent point of view in an encyclopedia. Of course, the "band" would describe themselves as an "heavy-metal band", for obvious marketing reasons. I've only listened to their performance at the 2006 eurovision song contest, yet I don't know anything else from them (and I don't want to). My impressions were:
- Oh, god ! Their song is called "hard rock something" but still they are disguised as metal fans. - Great, their opening has some elements of hard rock, with the lack of structure that caracterizes poor metal. - Then, after the first 15 sec, they radically changed their style into something closer to dance or pop. Only the (obviously forced) "voice" of the singer could still be taken for metal music.
It was really "amazing" (I've loved the british comments on bbc prime) to see how such poor genre-mix could fool everyone into believing this is good music. It would have just been enough to fool them into believing this is music.
So taking this for "heavy metal" is just not right, in my opinion. Having said that, I'm ready to talk about wether Wikipedia should include marketing descriptions, thus I've not modified anything from the article.
King mike 08:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't see what the fuss is all about. Everywhere I've seen Lordi refer to themselves as hard rock rather than heavy metal, probably to avoid just the sort of moaning about what constitutes "true" "metal" that is happening here. I added hard rock as a genre to the description, don't know who put heavy metal in there. But if we went back to the 70's, I'm sure they *would* have been described as heavy metal back then. Changing times, changing definitions and all that... Snowgrouse 19:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
They remind me a lot of Rob Zombie, actually, when I listen to this song. They both have the heavy metal up front from the vocalist with a sort of dance groove under it. Zombie's considered to be heavy metal, so I guess Lordi should too.
It's glam metal Duke toaster 10:53, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I agree. It seemed heavy metal at the type because it was a complete contrast to the normal Eurovision pop, but this is more like glam rock or even prog rock listening back now 90.252.237.181 ( talk) 10:34, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
"During the whole performance, the band members remained relatively stationary, with the exception of guitarist Amen, who hopped back and forth energetically. This was because the keyboardist and drummer had no choice but to remain behind their instruments, and Mr. Lordi had very large platform shoes."
How about
bassist Ox? --
Face
18:49, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
After watching the video for the song, I noticed some inaccuracies in this article.
Now a couple of general questions. First, why did she seem so hesitant about approaching the group? I got the impression she was a big fan. Secondly, how did they "zombifiy" the cheerleaders? -- D -Day What up? Am I cool, or what? 20:34, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
The article contains the lyrics of Hard Rock Hallelujah. Is this a copyright violation?
Genre: The genre of Lordi music is a much-discussed and controversial topic. Please always discuss proposed genre changes on the talk page before making them!
Writer: There is no indication on the single's credits that Awa had anything to do with writing any part of the song. Mr. Lordi is clearly credited as the both the writer of the music and the lyrics. Only Tracy Lipp is mentioned as an additional lyricist, and this is only for Mr. Killjoy.
Producer: Being the frontman for the band and the producer of the single are two entirely different things. Jyrki Tuovinen is clearly credited as producer on the single's back cover.
Please check your facts before editing in the future!
-- HamatoKameko ( talk) 16:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
just check the tv 2 website. that will be a valid source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.59.120 ( talk) 09:35, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
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Can anyone provide information on the new vedeo for HRH, snow&flames version directed by Antti Jokinen, which was shown on ESC 2007? Garret Beaumain 11:12, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the internal links to "Hallelujah" in the opening phrase and "Heaven" and "Hell" in the other single. I don't think they contribute to the article as a whole. See Wikipedia:Only make links that are relevant to the context, if someone disagrees with this action say here. Tartan 10:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Do not remove links you do not understand. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lordi#.22Illegal.22_mp3-link_removed apecat 14:58, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Straightened out the English a bit and changed the (dead) link from Lordi's page to YouTube. If anyone can find a better link to the video, it'd be much appreciated. Snowgrouse 15:28, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
There are no high schools in Finland.
Cheerleaders aren't big either. I assumed the video was parodying US high schools, myself:). It doesn't look like a Finnish lukio to me either... Snowgrouse 18:00, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
You can interpret the video as Suomineito (young female, Finnish version of for example Uncle Sam representing the country) without self-esteem, un-noticed in school, ignored by the popular girls. The monsters of Lordi gives her self-esteem and power to rule. So I see it, anyway.
--The above interpretation seems to hinge upon the Eurovision thing, but the video predates that. Also, the leading lady doesn't exactly look like the stereotypical image of Maiden Finland, considering she's Asian. It's the blonde cheerleaders who are more stereotypically Finnish:)... Snowgrouse 19:39, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Most Finnish people are dark haired though. Blonde would be stereotypically Scandinavian. 12:57, 15 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.193.116 ( talk)
Maybe the genre description of their "music" should be described from an independent point of view in an encyclopedia. Of course, the "band" would describe themselves as an "heavy-metal band", for obvious marketing reasons. I've only listened to their performance at the 2006 eurovision song contest, yet I don't know anything else from them (and I don't want to). My impressions were:
- Oh, god ! Their song is called "hard rock something" but still they are disguised as metal fans. - Great, their opening has some elements of hard rock, with the lack of structure that caracterizes poor metal. - Then, after the first 15 sec, they radically changed their style into something closer to dance or pop. Only the (obviously forced) "voice" of the singer could still be taken for metal music.
It was really "amazing" (I've loved the british comments on bbc prime) to see how such poor genre-mix could fool everyone into believing this is good music. It would have just been enough to fool them into believing this is music.
So taking this for "heavy metal" is just not right, in my opinion. Having said that, I'm ready to talk about wether Wikipedia should include marketing descriptions, thus I've not modified anything from the article.
King mike 08:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't see what the fuss is all about. Everywhere I've seen Lordi refer to themselves as hard rock rather than heavy metal, probably to avoid just the sort of moaning about what constitutes "true" "metal" that is happening here. I added hard rock as a genre to the description, don't know who put heavy metal in there. But if we went back to the 70's, I'm sure they *would* have been described as heavy metal back then. Changing times, changing definitions and all that... Snowgrouse 19:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
They remind me a lot of Rob Zombie, actually, when I listen to this song. They both have the heavy metal up front from the vocalist with a sort of dance groove under it. Zombie's considered to be heavy metal, so I guess Lordi should too.
It's glam metal Duke toaster 10:53, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I agree. It seemed heavy metal at the type because it was a complete contrast to the normal Eurovision pop, but this is more like glam rock or even prog rock listening back now 90.252.237.181 ( talk) 10:34, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
"During the whole performance, the band members remained relatively stationary, with the exception of guitarist Amen, who hopped back and forth energetically. This was because the keyboardist and drummer had no choice but to remain behind their instruments, and Mr. Lordi had very large platform shoes."
How about
bassist Ox? --
Face
18:49, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
After watching the video for the song, I noticed some inaccuracies in this article.
Now a couple of general questions. First, why did she seem so hesitant about approaching the group? I got the impression she was a big fan. Secondly, how did they "zombifiy" the cheerleaders? -- D -Day What up? Am I cool, or what? 20:34, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
The article contains the lyrics of Hard Rock Hallelujah. Is this a copyright violation?
Genre: The genre of Lordi music is a much-discussed and controversial topic. Please always discuss proposed genre changes on the talk page before making them!
Writer: There is no indication on the single's credits that Awa had anything to do with writing any part of the song. Mr. Lordi is clearly credited as the both the writer of the music and the lyrics. Only Tracy Lipp is mentioned as an additional lyricist, and this is only for Mr. Killjoy.
Producer: Being the frontman for the band and the producer of the single are two entirely different things. Jyrki Tuovinen is clearly credited as producer on the single's back cover.
Please check your facts before editing in the future!
-- HamatoKameko ( talk) 16:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
just check the tv 2 website. that will be a valid source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.59.120 ( talk) 09:35, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
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