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I wasn't sure if I should like to my blog post that includes background info for his OECD World Forum talk, or if I should have just linked to the video directly which might have made less sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jesserobbins ( talk • contribs) 18:13, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Is the linked rambling article from the Ehrlichs really relevant? jax ( talk) 18:22, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
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I recently reverted a change in the date of death from the seventh to the sixth of February, based on the gapminder press release. In a conversation with the editor who made the change, they indicate the death was widely reported in Swedish media as occurring on the sixth. I was hoping we could clear it up here. I also found The Guardian reporting it on the 7th, however my ability to search Swedish media is limited. Anyone have better information? -- TeaDrinker ( talk) 13:29, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
This section on Reception of Rosling's views on the world's future used to begin, logically, with a clarification of how Rosling’s more controversial views, especially as represented in his final book subtitled “Ten Reasons We're Wrong About the World--and Why Things Are Better Than You Think”, relate to the rest of his career. It began:
This led on to an account of several authorities who found his arguments flawed or his views overly optimistic.
Subsequently, relevant material was added about Rosling’s response to such criticisms and his claim to be not an “optimist” but a (rational) “possibilist”, producing a balanced account of this controversy.
However, some further additions crossed the line into Advocacy of Rosling’s views.
By 22 September 2019, the initial distinction between Rosling’s work on (primarily medical) statistics and his larger world views had been removed, as was reference to criticism by environmentalists such as Kolankiewicz. Professor Berggren’s listing of 3 serious problems with Rosling’s thought was at first removed, and then after something of an editing war, partially restored, but minus Berggren’s 2nd and 3rd problems, viz:
This section had also been re-structured, resulting in the following debatable features:
If such oddities continue, I imagine it will eventually be necessary for senior editors to step in.
For the present, I have made a partial repair of the section, but in a spirit of collegiality have left out Kolankiewicz‘s and Population Matters’s criticisms, and also Berggren’s second and third “problems” with Rosling’s world view. I have retained the somewhat dubious claim that Rosling always rejected optimism and “did recognize that the world faces severe risks, and that future human activity has the potential to do unacceptable damage to the planet or to civil society”, though I suspect that a proper balance would require citation of numerous quotations in which Rosling appears far more dismissive of global risks.
I will leave it to others to decide if this section’s opening distinction/clarification should be restored, between Rosling’s medical researches and his global worldviews. Marcasella ( talk) 02:30, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Further evidence that editors of this page need to be wary of polemic incursions occurred on 29 October when an otherwise unknown editor called FeXyl7 silently removed most of the material about criticism of Rosling's optimistic views by fellow experts, merely noting briefly that information had been added about "Syria". I have restored this missing material; and ask other editors to be on the watch for similar events. Marcasella ( talk) 14:02, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
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I wasn't sure if I should like to my blog post that includes background info for his OECD World Forum talk, or if I should have just linked to the video directly which might have made less sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jesserobbins ( talk • contribs) 18:13, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
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I recently reverted a change in the date of death from the seventh to the sixth of February, based on the gapminder press release. In a conversation with the editor who made the change, they indicate the death was widely reported in Swedish media as occurring on the sixth. I was hoping we could clear it up here. I also found The Guardian reporting it on the 7th, however my ability to search Swedish media is limited. Anyone have better information? -- TeaDrinker ( talk) 13:29, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
This section on Reception of Rosling's views on the world's future used to begin, logically, with a clarification of how Rosling’s more controversial views, especially as represented in his final book subtitled “Ten Reasons We're Wrong About the World--and Why Things Are Better Than You Think”, relate to the rest of his career. It began:
This led on to an account of several authorities who found his arguments flawed or his views overly optimistic.
Subsequently, relevant material was added about Rosling’s response to such criticisms and his claim to be not an “optimist” but a (rational) “possibilist”, producing a balanced account of this controversy.
However, some further additions crossed the line into Advocacy of Rosling’s views.
By 22 September 2019, the initial distinction between Rosling’s work on (primarily medical) statistics and his larger world views had been removed, as was reference to criticism by environmentalists such as Kolankiewicz. Professor Berggren’s listing of 3 serious problems with Rosling’s thought was at first removed, and then after something of an editing war, partially restored, but minus Berggren’s 2nd and 3rd problems, viz:
This section had also been re-structured, resulting in the following debatable features:
If such oddities continue, I imagine it will eventually be necessary for senior editors to step in.
For the present, I have made a partial repair of the section, but in a spirit of collegiality have left out Kolankiewicz‘s and Population Matters’s criticisms, and also Berggren’s second and third “problems” with Rosling’s world view. I have retained the somewhat dubious claim that Rosling always rejected optimism and “did recognize that the world faces severe risks, and that future human activity has the potential to do unacceptable damage to the planet or to civil society”, though I suspect that a proper balance would require citation of numerous quotations in which Rosling appears far more dismissive of global risks.
I will leave it to others to decide if this section’s opening distinction/clarification should be restored, between Rosling’s medical researches and his global worldviews. Marcasella ( talk) 02:30, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Further evidence that editors of this page need to be wary of polemic incursions occurred on 29 October when an otherwise unknown editor called FeXyl7 silently removed most of the material about criticism of Rosling's optimistic views by fellow experts, merely noting briefly that information had been added about "Syria". I have restored this missing material; and ask other editors to be on the watch for similar events. Marcasella ( talk) 14:02, 9 December 2019 (UTC)