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The bio section for the 2000s is poorly written and completely out of order. It covers plot elements of Secret Invasion before Civil War. Can some Avengers fan clean this up? I'm not a Marvel historian, lol. But I do know the major events in that decade go Avengers Disassembled, New Avengers, Civil War, Initiative, and then Secret Invasion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.223.179 ( talk) 06:42, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Pym's minimum size is not limited to half an inch. During two separate Initiative volumes it was mentioned that he dodged certain death by shrinking down to a sub-atomic level. This may have been Hank's skrull doppleganger, but if Hank hadn't been capable of such shrinking then him doing so would have alerted someone of his false identity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.21.144.223 ( talk) 04:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
It was the skrull, not Pym. 142.162.106.95 ( talk) 04:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Given the forthcoming change in i.d. for Hank (and presumably the retirement of the Yellowjacket i.d.), is it time to consider a new picture in the infobox? I like the excerpt from SI: Requiem that has been added to the body of the article, good frontal shot that captures the new design much better than the MA #21 cover. Thoughts? 68.248.62.130 ( talk) 01:15, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
I move the Successors to tables as it was there was a lot of repetitiveness, ie. so and so as Ant-Man followed up with so and so as Ant-Man, etc. Some unregistered editor feld it was too bulky and that I should discuss it on the talk page. Spshu ( talk) 20:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I've restored "Publication history", which had essentially been cut down and then absorbed into what had been "Fictional character biography", which was then placed under the PH subheads. WikiProject Comics MOS specified that PH and FCB are separate sections. One editor has unilaterally merged them in some articles, but there is no consensus for this; indeed, the WikiProjects Style Guidance talk page shows only one editor suggesting this, and the remainder discussing changes in naming conventions while retaining the section-break status quo. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 22:33, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
The fictional character biography needs adjusting in that guidelines say this section is written in-universe. Names of publications and such should be in footnotes only. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 23:22, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Articles can't link to sections in text unless there is a header. This is done so that, for example, an article on the Ultimates can link directly to the intended version, through the link Hank_Pym#Ultimate_Marvel, which will link directly to the section in the article about Ultimate Giant Man. Without this, readers have to search through the text for the information about the intended version.
Every other Marvel character's article is ordered and sectioned just like this, just look at the articles on:
The list goes on and on, so why should this article be any different? Why go against a long-established, easy to understand organisational system, that every other article uses? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikikaye ( talk • contribs) 22:44, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't the character history section mention his first wife, Maria, who appears in Tales To Astonish #44? Or has she been retcon'd away? 108.7.213.217 ( talk) 01:02, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
The article states that he can reach near microscopic to about 100 feet tall, however, at least in Avengers Academy, he's able to easily reach the microverse and then underspace (entire universes smaller than atomic size) and overspace (a universe all it's own where gods reside that is massively huger than our universe). When did he get these powers and their extents should probably be added to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.232.241.114 ( talk) 20:06, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
This is just a notice that an article for Ant-Man is being incubated at Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Ant-Man (film) until such time that it is ready for inclusion in the mainspace. All are welcome to come help nurture the article's development there.-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 20:34, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
If other editors think the tag is still needed, obviously you should re-add it. Given the character's unusual complexity — at least five different identities, plus a long-running impostor, plus being a part of complicated events — I'm not sure we could trim the Fictional character biography any more, though perhaps someone else can make some cuts I can't readily see. The tag also presented a Catch-22: On the one hand it said additional sources were needed, but on the other, it said there were too many primary sources (i.e., the comics cited in the FCB). I think the article did an admirable job of citing all the various twists and turns of the character and that the cites here are needed. Anyway, that's my take on it. Other editors, please go in and improve things even more. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 21:48, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
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That seems like information that should be included in the caption. Argento Surfer ( talk) 19:26, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
I am removing the category "Fictional domestic abusers" from this article for the following reasons:
- Thunderforge ( talk) 01:30, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
Jim Shooter was in charge at the time, and he refused to let things pass the way his predecessors did. Phoenix had to die for her crime, Stark descended into alcoholism thanks to all the social events he attended, Ghost Rider became truly evil, and when Hank slapped his wife thanks to a miscommunication between the artist and the writer, rather than have the panel redone, he shined a spotlight on it and destroyed the character's reputation for all time. The temporary psychosis that gave birth to the Yellowjacket identity (and got him married in the first place) now marked Pym as unstable. He was court martialed by Cap and discharged from the Avengers. He gave up the Yellowjacket identity and superheroing altogether, and it was decades before he returned to full superhero status again. But now he is officially bipolar, and his colleagues doubt his every decision. Thanks a heap, Shooter. Thetrellan ( talk) 19:07, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 01:15, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Hank Pym → Henry Pym – The actual name of the character is Henry Pym, "Hank" is only used sometimes as a nickname. Some noteworthy comic book examples:
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Sincerely, The Squirrel Conspiracy ( talk) 21:58, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
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The bio section for the 2000s is poorly written and completely out of order. It covers plot elements of Secret Invasion before Civil War. Can some Avengers fan clean this up? I'm not a Marvel historian, lol. But I do know the major events in that decade go Avengers Disassembled, New Avengers, Civil War, Initiative, and then Secret Invasion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.223.179 ( talk) 06:42, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Pym's minimum size is not limited to half an inch. During two separate Initiative volumes it was mentioned that he dodged certain death by shrinking down to a sub-atomic level. This may have been Hank's skrull doppleganger, but if Hank hadn't been capable of such shrinking then him doing so would have alerted someone of his false identity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.21.144.223 ( talk) 04:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
It was the skrull, not Pym. 142.162.106.95 ( talk) 04:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Given the forthcoming change in i.d. for Hank (and presumably the retirement of the Yellowjacket i.d.), is it time to consider a new picture in the infobox? I like the excerpt from SI: Requiem that has been added to the body of the article, good frontal shot that captures the new design much better than the MA #21 cover. Thoughts? 68.248.62.130 ( talk) 01:15, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
I move the Successors to tables as it was there was a lot of repetitiveness, ie. so and so as Ant-Man followed up with so and so as Ant-Man, etc. Some unregistered editor feld it was too bulky and that I should discuss it on the talk page. Spshu ( talk) 20:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I've restored "Publication history", which had essentially been cut down and then absorbed into what had been "Fictional character biography", which was then placed under the PH subheads. WikiProject Comics MOS specified that PH and FCB are separate sections. One editor has unilaterally merged them in some articles, but there is no consensus for this; indeed, the WikiProjects Style Guidance talk page shows only one editor suggesting this, and the remainder discussing changes in naming conventions while retaining the section-break status quo. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 22:33, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
The fictional character biography needs adjusting in that guidelines say this section is written in-universe. Names of publications and such should be in footnotes only. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 23:22, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Articles can't link to sections in text unless there is a header. This is done so that, for example, an article on the Ultimates can link directly to the intended version, through the link Hank_Pym#Ultimate_Marvel, which will link directly to the section in the article about Ultimate Giant Man. Without this, readers have to search through the text for the information about the intended version.
Every other Marvel character's article is ordered and sectioned just like this, just look at the articles on:
The list goes on and on, so why should this article be any different? Why go against a long-established, easy to understand organisational system, that every other article uses? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikikaye ( talk • contribs) 22:44, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't the character history section mention his first wife, Maria, who appears in Tales To Astonish #44? Or has she been retcon'd away? 108.7.213.217 ( talk) 01:02, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
The article states that he can reach near microscopic to about 100 feet tall, however, at least in Avengers Academy, he's able to easily reach the microverse and then underspace (entire universes smaller than atomic size) and overspace (a universe all it's own where gods reside that is massively huger than our universe). When did he get these powers and their extents should probably be added to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.232.241.114 ( talk) 20:06, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
This is just a notice that an article for Ant-Man is being incubated at Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Ant-Man (film) until such time that it is ready for inclusion in the mainspace. All are welcome to come help nurture the article's development there.-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 20:34, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
If other editors think the tag is still needed, obviously you should re-add it. Given the character's unusual complexity — at least five different identities, plus a long-running impostor, plus being a part of complicated events — I'm not sure we could trim the Fictional character biography any more, though perhaps someone else can make some cuts I can't readily see. The tag also presented a Catch-22: On the one hand it said additional sources were needed, but on the other, it said there were too many primary sources (i.e., the comics cited in the FCB). I think the article did an admirable job of citing all the various twists and turns of the character and that the cites here are needed. Anyway, that's my take on it. Other editors, please go in and improve things even more. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 21:48, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
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Cheers. — cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 03:13, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
That seems like information that should be included in the caption. Argento Surfer ( talk) 19:26, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
I am removing the category "Fictional domestic abusers" from this article for the following reasons:
- Thunderforge ( talk) 01:30, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
Jim Shooter was in charge at the time, and he refused to let things pass the way his predecessors did. Phoenix had to die for her crime, Stark descended into alcoholism thanks to all the social events he attended, Ghost Rider became truly evil, and when Hank slapped his wife thanks to a miscommunication between the artist and the writer, rather than have the panel redone, he shined a spotlight on it and destroyed the character's reputation for all time. The temporary psychosis that gave birth to the Yellowjacket identity (and got him married in the first place) now marked Pym as unstable. He was court martialed by Cap and discharged from the Avengers. He gave up the Yellowjacket identity and superheroing altogether, and it was decades before he returned to full superhero status again. But now he is officially bipolar, and his colleagues doubt his every decision. Thanks a heap, Shooter. Thetrellan ( talk) 19:07, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 01:15, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Hank Pym → Henry Pym – The actual name of the character is Henry Pym, "Hank" is only used sometimes as a nickname. Some noteworthy comic book examples:
One or more images currently used in this article have been nominated for deletion as violations of the non-free content criteria (NFCC).
You can read more about what this means and why these files are being nominated for deletion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#Image deletion nominations for NFCC 8 and 3a.
You can participate at the deletion discussion(s) at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 April 28. If you are not familiar with NFCC-related deletion discussions, I recommend reading the post linked above first.
Sincerely, The Squirrel Conspiracy ( talk) 21:58, 28 April 2020 (UTC)