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I think she should have both Category:Palestinian women in politics and {{ Palestine-politician-stub}}. She is an Israeli "Arab" and member of a Palestinian nationalist party, thus making her Palestinian in nationality and Israeli in citizenship. This makes both Israeli and Palestinian cats and stubs relevant.-- TM 02:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Is she Christian? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.5.148 ( talk) 02:04, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
An Interview with Haneen Zoubi - Alternatives International Journal April 2009 Sean.hoyland - talk 02:35, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
her participation in the gaza flotilla should be mentioned.-- Kmhkmh ( talk) 14:58, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
I think that the spelling of her name should reflect the most common usage around the world. While Jewish Israeli sources spelling her name with the a, most outside interviews (which one think reflect common usage) spell her last name Zoubi. Moreover, the articles with her relatives are also spelled Zoubi. For consistency sake, we should spell her last name Zoubi.-- TM 10:16, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
←[Redent]@Chase me - It seems that you have said you support the use of the official spelling of the name. It is Hanin Zoabi, per the official Knesset site. see here and here. It also seems that is the 2nd most common spelling, with the former spelling on this article "Haneen Zoubi" being the most common. The spelling you are now using for the title is rather uncommon. So what say you? KeptSouth ( talk) 11:56, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:As has been noted more than once, we'll use the official correct spelling (per Knesset & Haaretz), it's of no account that a large number of websites get this wrong. That's for the surname, no opinion on the given name, doesn't seem all that important.
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I think we should take a vote on the spelling to use. It seems the spelling was changed suddenly, and without discussion or without much discussion.
Revert to "Haneen Zoubi"
Zoabi self identifies as a Palestinian amongst other things. That needs to be in the lead I guess. Sean.hoyland - talk 14:00, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
←[Redent] This is how I have changed the lead -- for the most accuracy. She actually is an Arab-Israeli citizen - it is a legal question based on Israel's law - it is not a question of self-identification. If she wasn't legally a citizen (for the moment), she could not be an MK.
Could somebody explain what is wrong with "Haneen Zoabi is a Palestinian Arab who is a citizen of Israel and currently serves as a member of the Knesset, representing the Balad party"? nableezy - 15:35, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
←[Redent] The lead should not mislead. The discussion was about the particular wording that might not be clear to the average reader. As this "discussion" has continued, it has wandered far from the particular point I was trying to address. I do not doubt that Zoabi identifies as a Palestinian, and I do not appreciate a lecture that my point was "wrong and not in line with our guidelines or policies." Those sorts of remarks are gratuitous and incorrect, especially where the other person has declared the debate ended. Regards KeptSouth ( talk) 13:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Please be aware of the organized and paid vandalism and opinion pushing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.152.250.250 ( talk) 13:18, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Is Zoabi a muslim or she is christian? I can't understand which is religion User:Lucifero4
The -or Arab- part of the quote from Zoabi is equating the two, not differentiating them as Ankh's edit did. nableezy - 21:56, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
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Please change Hanin Zoabi's picture, I believe it's unfair for such a great woman to be represented by such a deplorable picture.
http://img.ctrlv.in/50e8594fc3ab4.jpg This is a much more fitting photo!
Thanks :) Alattry ( talk) 16:46, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
On BLP and neutrality grounds I have removed the Other Controversy section which read:
The source given for text was this YNet article.
The BLP ground for removing the section (at least until further consideration is given to it) is that some sources are asserting that the Israeli media is misrepresenting what Zoabi said (see, for example, this 972 article by Larry Derfner) so, from appearances, it is wrong to use a single Israeli source to assert potentially libellous 'facts' about a living person in the current case.
The neutrality grounds for removing the text for further consideration are that it implies that the kidnappers (whoever they may be) are terrorists (or must necessarily be described as terrorists), something no doubt disputable and something that we ourselves as Wikipedia editors would be forbidden from stating factually, that it most likely fails to consider other viewpoints (presenting one particular one as a fact) and that it most likely misrepresents her argument ("no alternative but harming unarmed hitchhikers" etc. when it appears that she actually said that she disagreed with the kidnapping).
← ZScarpia 12:25, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
According to Derfner, the key passage in Zoabi's remarks was: "Is it strange that people living under occupation and living impossible lives, in a situation where Israel kidnaps new prisoners every day, is it strange that they act this way? They are not terrorists. Even if I do not agree with them, they are people who do not see any way open to change their reality, and they are compelled to use means like these until Israel wakes up and sees the suffering, feels the suffering of the other." ← ZScarpia 16:59, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
A recent article: Haaretz - Yaniv Kubovich, Jonathan Lis - Israel Police recommend indicting MK Zoabi for incitement , 23 June 2014. ← ZScarpia 16:59, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
"17-year-old Mohammad Zoabi, a cousin of Balad MK Haneen Zoabi, made a video calling on “terrorists” to return the three yeshiva students missing in the West Bank since Thursday night and presumed to have been kidnapped.
“Those terrorists that have kidnapped our kids – bring them back, and you had better bring them back now!” exclaimed the young Zoabi, an Israeli flag in the background. Speaking in English, Arabic and Hebrew, he also addressed Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and his government.
“Wake up and stop cooperating with terrorists,” he told them, adding that the Palestinian Authority was the “biggest” terrorist.
“Our enemies do not separate between Arabs and Jews living in Israel,” he said.
Like his lawmaker relative, a resident of Nazareth, Zoabi said he was proud to be an Israeli , adding that the country should continue to be a Jewish and democratic state.
“I am happy to see that Israeli hasbara [public diplomacy] is in such a dire state that it needs a stupid boy with a twisted identity who feels a continuous need to apologize to his strong masters,” Haneen Zoabi told Ynet.
Soon after, Knesset Committee for the Advancement of the Status of Women chairwoman Aliza Lavie (Yesh Atid) asked Zoabi in a committee meeting: "How are [the kidnappers] not terrorists?"
"Shut up, you don't deserve to be a committee chairwoman. Are you policewoman? You are a racist," Zoabi shouted in response."
As well as this one.
"The kidnappers of three yeshiva students last weekend are not terrorists, MK Hanin Zoabi (Balad) said Tuesday.
"They're people who don't see any way to change their reality and they are forced to use these means until Israel will wake up a little, until Israeli citizens and society will wake up and feel the suffering of the other," Zoabi said in an interview on Radio Tel Aviv, adding that the kidnappers live under occupation.
Soon after, Knesset Committee for the Advancement of the Status of Women chairwoman Aliza Lavie (Yesh Atid) asked Zoabi in a committee meeting: "How are [the kidnappers] not terrorists?"
"Shut up, you don't deserve to be a committee chairwoman. Are you policewoman? You are a racist," Zoabi shouted in response."
http://www.jpost.com/Pillar-of-Defense/Zoabi-Kidnappers-are-not-terrorists-theyre-fighting-occupation-359609 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knightmare72589 ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Haaretz - Aeyal Gross - With Zoabi’s suspension, Knesset moves toward fascism , 30 July 2014: Yesterday, the Knesset Ethics Committee used that statement to justify its decision to suspend Zoabi from plenum debates for six months, based on a law allowing MKs who violate the Knesset’s code of ethics to be suspended. Usually this panel only discusses statements made within the Knesset itself. It’s not the committee’s job to punish an MK for making political statements, however unpopular, and especially not when they were made outside the Knesset. The committee based itself on a rule stating that an MK “is a public trustee whose duty is to represent his electorate in a way that promotes human dignity, social progress and the good of the state.” Though MKs can act on their own interpretation of the good of the state, it said, Zoabi’s statement, made at a very sensitive time, did not promote the good of the state, violated her obligation as a public trustee and undermined public faith in the Knesset. ← ZScarpia 19:59, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Actually pronounced Zu'ubi, the name should be written in its second form Zoubi.
As it is written now, it is the way it is pronounced, to the best of my knowledge, according to the Israeli accent, which currently refrains from using the gluttal 'Ayin, and mistaking the vowel-less writing in Hebrew of the Vav which could be read as a U or as an O, reading it as Zoe. Thus they pronounce the name Zoe- ah-bee. But listening to herself and others pronounce her name, it is Zu-' bee. With a gluttal ' after the u. Am I correct? פשוט pashute ♫ ( talk) 15:17, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
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I think she should have both Category:Palestinian women in politics and {{ Palestine-politician-stub}}. She is an Israeli "Arab" and member of a Palestinian nationalist party, thus making her Palestinian in nationality and Israeli in citizenship. This makes both Israeli and Palestinian cats and stubs relevant.-- TM 02:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Is she Christian? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.5.148 ( talk) 02:04, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
An Interview with Haneen Zoubi - Alternatives International Journal April 2009 Sean.hoyland - talk 02:35, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
her participation in the gaza flotilla should be mentioned.-- Kmhkmh ( talk) 14:58, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
I think that the spelling of her name should reflect the most common usage around the world. While Jewish Israeli sources spelling her name with the a, most outside interviews (which one think reflect common usage) spell her last name Zoubi. Moreover, the articles with her relatives are also spelled Zoubi. For consistency sake, we should spell her last name Zoubi.-- TM 10:16, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
←[Redent]@Chase me - It seems that you have said you support the use of the official spelling of the name. It is Hanin Zoabi, per the official Knesset site. see here and here. It also seems that is the 2nd most common spelling, with the former spelling on this article "Haneen Zoubi" being the most common. The spelling you are now using for the title is rather uncommon. So what say you? KeptSouth ( talk) 11:56, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
:As has been noted more than once, we'll use the official correct spelling (per Knesset & Haaretz), it's of no account that a large number of websites get this wrong. That's for the surname, no opinion on the given name, doesn't seem all that important.
Misarxist (
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12:12, 23 June 2010 (UTC)per Tiamut below
I think we should take a vote on the spelling to use. It seems the spelling was changed suddenly, and without discussion or without much discussion.
Revert to "Haneen Zoubi"
Zoabi self identifies as a Palestinian amongst other things. That needs to be in the lead I guess. Sean.hoyland - talk 14:00, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
←[Redent] This is how I have changed the lead -- for the most accuracy. She actually is an Arab-Israeli citizen - it is a legal question based on Israel's law - it is not a question of self-identification. If she wasn't legally a citizen (for the moment), she could not be an MK.
Could somebody explain what is wrong with "Haneen Zoabi is a Palestinian Arab who is a citizen of Israel and currently serves as a member of the Knesset, representing the Balad party"? nableezy - 15:35, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
←[Redent] The lead should not mislead. The discussion was about the particular wording that might not be clear to the average reader. As this "discussion" has continued, it has wandered far from the particular point I was trying to address. I do not doubt that Zoabi identifies as a Palestinian, and I do not appreciate a lecture that my point was "wrong and not in line with our guidelines or policies." Those sorts of remarks are gratuitous and incorrect, especially where the other person has declared the debate ended. Regards KeptSouth ( talk) 13:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Please be aware of the organized and paid vandalism and opinion pushing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.152.250.250 ( talk) 13:18, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Is Zoabi a muslim or she is christian? I can't understand which is religion User:Lucifero4
The -or Arab- part of the quote from Zoabi is equating the two, not differentiating them as Ankh's edit did. nableezy - 21:56, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
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Please change Hanin Zoabi's picture, I believe it's unfair for such a great woman to be represented by such a deplorable picture.
http://img.ctrlv.in/50e8594fc3ab4.jpg This is a much more fitting photo!
Thanks :) Alattry ( talk) 16:46, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
On BLP and neutrality grounds I have removed the Other Controversy section which read:
The source given for text was this YNet article.
The BLP ground for removing the section (at least until further consideration is given to it) is that some sources are asserting that the Israeli media is misrepresenting what Zoabi said (see, for example, this 972 article by Larry Derfner) so, from appearances, it is wrong to use a single Israeli source to assert potentially libellous 'facts' about a living person in the current case.
The neutrality grounds for removing the text for further consideration are that it implies that the kidnappers (whoever they may be) are terrorists (or must necessarily be described as terrorists), something no doubt disputable and something that we ourselves as Wikipedia editors would be forbidden from stating factually, that it most likely fails to consider other viewpoints (presenting one particular one as a fact) and that it most likely misrepresents her argument ("no alternative but harming unarmed hitchhikers" etc. when it appears that she actually said that she disagreed with the kidnapping).
← ZScarpia 12:25, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
According to Derfner, the key passage in Zoabi's remarks was: "Is it strange that people living under occupation and living impossible lives, in a situation where Israel kidnaps new prisoners every day, is it strange that they act this way? They are not terrorists. Even if I do not agree with them, they are people who do not see any way open to change their reality, and they are compelled to use means like these until Israel wakes up and sees the suffering, feels the suffering of the other." ← ZScarpia 16:59, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
A recent article: Haaretz - Yaniv Kubovich, Jonathan Lis - Israel Police recommend indicting MK Zoabi for incitement , 23 June 2014. ← ZScarpia 16:59, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
"17-year-old Mohammad Zoabi, a cousin of Balad MK Haneen Zoabi, made a video calling on “terrorists” to return the three yeshiva students missing in the West Bank since Thursday night and presumed to have been kidnapped.
“Those terrorists that have kidnapped our kids – bring them back, and you had better bring them back now!” exclaimed the young Zoabi, an Israeli flag in the background. Speaking in English, Arabic and Hebrew, he also addressed Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and his government.
“Wake up and stop cooperating with terrorists,” he told them, adding that the Palestinian Authority was the “biggest” terrorist.
“Our enemies do not separate between Arabs and Jews living in Israel,” he said.
Like his lawmaker relative, a resident of Nazareth, Zoabi said he was proud to be an Israeli , adding that the country should continue to be a Jewish and democratic state.
“I am happy to see that Israeli hasbara [public diplomacy] is in such a dire state that it needs a stupid boy with a twisted identity who feels a continuous need to apologize to his strong masters,” Haneen Zoabi told Ynet.
Soon after, Knesset Committee for the Advancement of the Status of Women chairwoman Aliza Lavie (Yesh Atid) asked Zoabi in a committee meeting: "How are [the kidnappers] not terrorists?"
"Shut up, you don't deserve to be a committee chairwoman. Are you policewoman? You are a racist," Zoabi shouted in response."
As well as this one.
"The kidnappers of three yeshiva students last weekend are not terrorists, MK Hanin Zoabi (Balad) said Tuesday.
"They're people who don't see any way to change their reality and they are forced to use these means until Israel will wake up a little, until Israeli citizens and society will wake up and feel the suffering of the other," Zoabi said in an interview on Radio Tel Aviv, adding that the kidnappers live under occupation.
Soon after, Knesset Committee for the Advancement of the Status of Women chairwoman Aliza Lavie (Yesh Atid) asked Zoabi in a committee meeting: "How are [the kidnappers] not terrorists?"
"Shut up, you don't deserve to be a committee chairwoman. Are you policewoman? You are a racist," Zoabi shouted in response."
http://www.jpost.com/Pillar-of-Defense/Zoabi-Kidnappers-are-not-terrorists-theyre-fighting-occupation-359609 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knightmare72589 ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Haaretz - Aeyal Gross - With Zoabi’s suspension, Knesset moves toward fascism , 30 July 2014: Yesterday, the Knesset Ethics Committee used that statement to justify its decision to suspend Zoabi from plenum debates for six months, based on a law allowing MKs who violate the Knesset’s code of ethics to be suspended. Usually this panel only discusses statements made within the Knesset itself. It’s not the committee’s job to punish an MK for making political statements, however unpopular, and especially not when they were made outside the Knesset. The committee based itself on a rule stating that an MK “is a public trustee whose duty is to represent his electorate in a way that promotes human dignity, social progress and the good of the state.” Though MKs can act on their own interpretation of the good of the state, it said, Zoabi’s statement, made at a very sensitive time, did not promote the good of the state, violated her obligation as a public trustee and undermined public faith in the Knesset. ← ZScarpia 19:59, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Actually pronounced Zu'ubi, the name should be written in its second form Zoubi.
As it is written now, it is the way it is pronounced, to the best of my knowledge, according to the Israeli accent, which currently refrains from using the gluttal 'Ayin, and mistaking the vowel-less writing in Hebrew of the Vav which could be read as a U or as an O, reading it as Zoe. Thus they pronounce the name Zoe- ah-bee. But listening to herself and others pronounce her name, it is Zu-' bee. With a gluttal ' after the u. Am I correct? פשוט pashute ♫ ( talk) 15:17, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
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