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Why does this page display a photo of a hamburger that is NOT a Big Mac with a caption calling it a Big Mac? A Big Mac has the cheese and pickles underneath the meat patty, but the photo on this page has both of those on top of the meat patty. Christopher Rath ( talk) 15:29, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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It is suggested that the term "chicken burger" is only used in Australia and New Zealand, but it is also used a lot in Europe (at least in France, Switzerland, Belgium, Monaco, Germany and Sweden) where a sandwitch also is based on a sliced bread (loaf of bread or baguette for exemple, or french toast). Please change "In Australia and New Zealand, a piece of chicken breast on a bun is known as a chicken burger, which would generally not be considered to be a burger in the United States; Americans would generally call it a chicken sandwich, but in Australian English and New Zealand English a sandwich requires sliced bread (not a bun), so it would not be considered a sandwich." to "In multiple parts of the world (Europe, Oceania...) a piece of chicken breast or fried chicken tenders can replace the beef patty and is called a chicken burger (chicken sandwich in the USA)." TheCiramor ( talk) 12:20, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
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There's been some recent changes/reversions of the "Place of Origin" from Germany/Hamburg to the United States... can we please discuss and reach a consensus rather than Edit warring? I've temporarily changed it to "United States" which best reflects the Etymology and History sections of this page, as well the other related pages of History of the hamburger / History of the hamburger in the United States (ie. created in the US, but named after the German town), pending a final decision here.
I note that Tikka masala page references both the UK and the Indian subcontinent as sources, however California roll doesn't mention Japan as a source, and the American-Chinese food pages I checked (eg Cashew chicken) also only list the US as a source.
Tobus ( talk) 01:31, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
This article seems to almost give the impression that grilling is the sole means of preparing hamburgers
while likely the most popular means, grilling is not the only one.
White Castle, for instance, steams hamburgers for their sliders.
even rarer is the poached method that can be found at some Wisconsin establishments https://www.tastingtable.com/1296944/wisconsin-poached-burgers-staple-over-hundred-years/ SecretName101 ( talk) 06:11, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
burgers actually originated in Germany 75.4.219.145 ( talk) 18:29, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
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In the intro, please replace the word food with dish. 2600:100C:A103:309B:4892:1F46:288:C5BE ( talk) 20:20, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
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origin is not USA but germany. Christianjensen5001 ( talk) 15:01, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
It's a page for the Hamburger and the image is a cheeseburger. And a god-awful looking one at that. Gotta get a better pic lads. 203.220.144.28 ( talk) 22:52, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
The article says a piece of chicken breast on a bun is not called "chicken burger" in US English. Is that because chicken just can't be part of a burger, or is it because "burger" always means ground meat? TooManyFingers ( talk) 20:22, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
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In the intro, please replace food with dish as dish is a more culinary term. 2600:100C:A211:7F18:ED6F:90C2:E068:DBFA ( talk) 17:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Upon reading the article, it’s quite clear that the origin of the hamburger is unknown, however it is likely from either Germany or the USA. There is no general consensus and therefore seems inaccurate to put it as the USA (or Germany) individually.
I propose to change the place of origin to better reflect the consensus of the article and wider evidence with something along the lines of: “Unknown (Germany or USA)” or “Disputed (Germany or USA)”.
I feel “Unknown (Germany or USA)” best reflects the evidence available as there doesn’t appear to be any dispute due to a lack of concrete evidence. TGB13 ( talk) 06:55, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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Why does this page display a photo of a hamburger that is NOT a Big Mac with a caption calling it a Big Mac? A Big Mac has the cheese and pickles underneath the meat patty, but the photo on this page has both of those on top of the meat patty. Christopher Rath ( talk) 15:29, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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It is suggested that the term "chicken burger" is only used in Australia and New Zealand, but it is also used a lot in Europe (at least in France, Switzerland, Belgium, Monaco, Germany and Sweden) where a sandwitch also is based on a sliced bread (loaf of bread or baguette for exemple, or french toast). Please change "In Australia and New Zealand, a piece of chicken breast on a bun is known as a chicken burger, which would generally not be considered to be a burger in the United States; Americans would generally call it a chicken sandwich, but in Australian English and New Zealand English a sandwich requires sliced bread (not a bun), so it would not be considered a sandwich." to "In multiple parts of the world (Europe, Oceania...) a piece of chicken breast or fried chicken tenders can replace the beef patty and is called a chicken burger (chicken sandwich in the USA)." TheCiramor ( talk) 12:20, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
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There's been some recent changes/reversions of the "Place of Origin" from Germany/Hamburg to the United States... can we please discuss and reach a consensus rather than Edit warring? I've temporarily changed it to "United States" which best reflects the Etymology and History sections of this page, as well the other related pages of History of the hamburger / History of the hamburger in the United States (ie. created in the US, but named after the German town), pending a final decision here.
I note that Tikka masala page references both the UK and the Indian subcontinent as sources, however California roll doesn't mention Japan as a source, and the American-Chinese food pages I checked (eg Cashew chicken) also only list the US as a source.
Tobus ( talk) 01:31, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
This article seems to almost give the impression that grilling is the sole means of preparing hamburgers
while likely the most popular means, grilling is not the only one.
White Castle, for instance, steams hamburgers for their sliders.
even rarer is the poached method that can be found at some Wisconsin establishments https://www.tastingtable.com/1296944/wisconsin-poached-burgers-staple-over-hundred-years/ SecretName101 ( talk) 06:11, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
burgers actually originated in Germany 75.4.219.145 ( talk) 18:29, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
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In the intro, please replace the word food with dish. 2600:100C:A103:309B:4892:1F46:288:C5BE ( talk) 20:20, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
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origin is not USA but germany. Christianjensen5001 ( talk) 15:01, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
It's a page for the Hamburger and the image is a cheeseburger. And a god-awful looking one at that. Gotta get a better pic lads. 203.220.144.28 ( talk) 22:52, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
The article says a piece of chicken breast on a bun is not called "chicken burger" in US English. Is that because chicken just can't be part of a burger, or is it because "burger" always means ground meat? TooManyFingers ( talk) 20:22, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
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In the intro, please replace food with dish as dish is a more culinary term. 2600:100C:A211:7F18:ED6F:90C2:E068:DBFA ( talk) 17:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Upon reading the article, it’s quite clear that the origin of the hamburger is unknown, however it is likely from either Germany or the USA. There is no general consensus and therefore seems inaccurate to put it as the USA (or Germany) individually.
I propose to change the place of origin to better reflect the consensus of the article and wider evidence with something along the lines of: “Unknown (Germany or USA)” or “Disputed (Germany or USA)”.
I feel “Unknown (Germany or USA)” best reflects the evidence available as there doesn’t appear to be any dispute due to a lack of concrete evidence. TGB13 ( talk) 06:55, 13 July 2024 (UTC)