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The coordinates puts the location southeast of Sea of Galilee, that would be close to the Syrian border. -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 20:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Hamat Gader in the 20th Century seems to fail WP:RS as a source of history. Maybe it is reliable as a source for the modern facilities. Counterarguments welcome. Zero talk 08:26, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Actually this web site is dubious also, so I challenge it too. Zero talk 08:30, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
What is the source for "El-Hamma El-Souriya"? I only find "El-Hamma". Zero talk 12:00, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
The section "Modern history" totally ignores that the Golan Heights is a part of the Israeli-occupied territories and therefore not under Israeli sovereignty. -- IRISZOOM ( talk) 02:45, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
The article on Hammat Gader uses the term "annexed by Israel" for the area of Hammat. However, the same article mentions the 1923 borders between the truncated Mandate of Palestine and Syria and Transjordan. These borders do include Hammat Gader as a part of the British Palestine (Cisjordan) and not Syria or the Transjordanian Palestine. Since the Jewish State in Palestine was outlined by the UN as including all the Western Galilee, one cannot use the word "annexed" since the land of Hammat Gader is a part of the Jewish Palestine according to the UN.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Zinovy Vayman ( talk • contribs)
Let me get this straight, what is Israel proper is what was allocated to the Jewish state by the partition plan? Yall really want that the definition thats used? Cus that would make Sefa-Amr and Nazareth and Lydda and Ramle all outside of Israel. nableezy - 05:36, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
AFAIK, the last international recognised decision about Hamat Gader placed it in equal Syrian and Israeli DMZ. If we have the israeli categories, should we not also have [[Category:Resorts in Syria]], [[Category:Roman sites in Syria]] and [[Category:Springs of Syria]] in the article? Huldra ( talk) 15:36, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm dubious about it being in the Golan at all. For one thing it wasn't in the Syrian province of that name. For another, it was not included in the Golan Heights law of 1981. So I'd say it isn't in the Golan Heights by either Syrian or Israeli reckoning. It is a part of mandatory Palestine that Israel claims sovereignty over by bluff, similar to the Latrun Salient. Zero talk 17:45, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
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In the lead, the Arabic name is given as "al-Hamma al-Souriya, meaning "the Syrian Hamma", and it's wikilinked to Al-Hamma, Tiberias. This name statement lacks a source.
When was it called this way? Was it official? Was "Al-Hamma, Tiberias" the official name during the Mandate, and only then? Is this an attempt at placing a territorial claim through the back door (Syrian, rather than Palestinian village)? Source! Arminden ( talk) 14:41, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
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The remains of the Roman baths are very impressive and have an illustrious history, but aren't mentioned. The other remains visible/accessible or not, are hardly touched upon. The poor state of consolidation and limited accessibility is not an excuse for an encyclopedic article. Arminden ( talk) 21:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
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Syrian soldiers? Was the DMZ regulation not prohibiting ALL soldiers from entering? If not, why; if yes, the text is strongly biased: Syrian soldiers are OK, Israeli ones are not. As of now, the text makes no sense (other than maybe of propaganda). Arminden ( talk) 21:27, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
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The coordinates puts the location southeast of Sea of Galilee, that would be close to the Syrian border. -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 20:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Hamat Gader in the 20th Century seems to fail WP:RS as a source of history. Maybe it is reliable as a source for the modern facilities. Counterarguments welcome. Zero talk 08:26, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Actually this web site is dubious also, so I challenge it too. Zero talk 08:30, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
What is the source for "El-Hamma El-Souriya"? I only find "El-Hamma". Zero talk 12:00, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
The section "Modern history" totally ignores that the Golan Heights is a part of the Israeli-occupied territories and therefore not under Israeli sovereignty. -- IRISZOOM ( talk) 02:45, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
The article on Hammat Gader uses the term "annexed by Israel" for the area of Hammat. However, the same article mentions the 1923 borders between the truncated Mandate of Palestine and Syria and Transjordan. These borders do include Hammat Gader as a part of the British Palestine (Cisjordan) and not Syria or the Transjordanian Palestine. Since the Jewish State in Palestine was outlined by the UN as including all the Western Galilee, one cannot use the word "annexed" since the land of Hammat Gader is a part of the Jewish Palestine according to the UN.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Zinovy Vayman ( talk • contribs)
Let me get this straight, what is Israel proper is what was allocated to the Jewish state by the partition plan? Yall really want that the definition thats used? Cus that would make Sefa-Amr and Nazareth and Lydda and Ramle all outside of Israel. nableezy - 05:36, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
AFAIK, the last international recognised decision about Hamat Gader placed it in equal Syrian and Israeli DMZ. If we have the israeli categories, should we not also have [[Category:Resorts in Syria]], [[Category:Roman sites in Syria]] and [[Category:Springs of Syria]] in the article? Huldra ( talk) 15:36, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm dubious about it being in the Golan at all. For one thing it wasn't in the Syrian province of that name. For another, it was not included in the Golan Heights law of 1981. So I'd say it isn't in the Golan Heights by either Syrian or Israeli reckoning. It is a part of mandatory Palestine that Israel claims sovereignty over by bluff, similar to the Latrun Salient. Zero talk 17:45, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
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In the lead, the Arabic name is given as "al-Hamma al-Souriya, meaning "the Syrian Hamma", and it's wikilinked to Al-Hamma, Tiberias. This name statement lacks a source.
When was it called this way? Was it official? Was "Al-Hamma, Tiberias" the official name during the Mandate, and only then? Is this an attempt at placing a territorial claim through the back door (Syrian, rather than Palestinian village)? Source! Arminden ( talk) 14:41, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Hamat Gader's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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help) (Very limited snippet view).I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:34, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
The remains of the Roman baths are very impressive and have an illustrious history, but aren't mentioned. The other remains visible/accessible or not, are hardly touched upon. The poor state of consolidation and limited accessibility is not an excuse for an encyclopedic article. Arminden ( talk) 21:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
The article explicitly states that
Syrian soldiers? Was the DMZ regulation not prohibiting ALL soldiers from entering? If not, why; if yes, the text is strongly biased: Syrian soldiers are OK, Israeli ones are not. As of now, the text makes no sense (other than maybe of propaganda). Arminden ( talk) 21:27, 23 July 2022 (UTC)