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Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/main/w-vh/w-visits/w-findaplace/w-hamhouse/w-hamhouse-history.htm. Infringing material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. Sitush ( talk) 15:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
I remember as a boy playing hooky from school stumping the grounds of Ham house I once did an O level exam Art painting of the south side entrance gardens(aged 15) titled I believed "Looking through an Arch doorway"showed the splendid gardens in full bloom,in fact it helped me achieve an O level grade "A" pass!!!
Many a time I would be jogging pass Ham house,also as a small child riding my bike through Cut throat Ally to Petersham Russell school eventually moving on to Orchard school what great years they were. Lots of Football(Soccer to our American friends) playing with friends Johnny Whittle, Kenny Ball, Guy Elliot,Alan Watson,Tony Varney, Richard Piper just to mention a few ...Katie Flavall my first crush! also to mention Donna McCarthy whose mother took care of my bike while I was at school...
Lived on Buckingham Drive near the school # 8 I think??? since Retired and moved to Tollermache Mews..
I was born in Ham in the house I lived for 24 yrs got married and moved ...that's another story... Now living in the USA...
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Hello Ham House friends,
Over this extended lockdown period, a group of National Trust volunteers from Ham House have formed a team dedicated to the goal of getting the Ham House page to FA status! We'd like to build on the great foundations already in place to add more depth to the story of the house, gardens, collections and the women & men who made it their home. We are all long-serving volunteers with decades of experience with the property and its history. This project has the endorsement of the National Trust, who are making reference materials available to the team. We'll do our best to expand this article in alignment with Wikipedia's highest standards - however if you see any points of concern, please post here to share your thoughts. Isaksenk ( talk) 16:32, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello HH friends, as I'm sure you will have noticed I posted some updates to the Early Family History and William Murray sections this evening. Our team have been reviewing the details for the last few months and have updated and slightly expanded both sections. We had significant debates on certain points, but focused on the documented evidence available at present. If there are any concerns about our updates, please don't hesitate to reach out and I'll be happy to provide clarifications on behalf of the group. We're continuing work on a number of sections, including those which will significantly expand the article by adding details about the interior and collections. Thanks. Isaksenk ( talk) 17:29, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Hello HH friends, I wanted to briefly explain the rationale behind the structure of today's edits. You'll note that I've added the Paintings organised by room. This is because we will soon be added more content about each room, including cabinets, ceilings, etc. The Header called Painting will eventually disappear and it will just be a review of the Interior & Collections for each room. We have several persons working on each part, so it was the easiest way to integrate multiple contributions. We hope you all enjoy the expansion of the content, and welcome any comments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isaksenk ( talk • contribs) 13:28, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello HH friends, just wanted to update you that I've requested a peer review of the article, to identify what's needed to improve both the quality level and rating. We've already received some very helpful comments from an experienced editor, which I'll be focusing on as a next priority. Please follow the conversation on the peer review page, and as ever, share your knowledge and sources as relevant. Thanks. Isaksenk ( talk) 19:34, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, the table of contents/section headings don't really make sense. Firstly, the "Elizabeth (née Murray: 2nd Countess of Dysart) (1626–1698) and Lionel Tollemache, 3rd Baronet of Helmingham Hall (1624–1669)" desperately needs to be shortened, it distorts the entire table of contents making it very awkward looking. Secondly, the choice of years after names (c.1600–1655 for William Murray, for example), doesn't have to do with the actual time they spent in the house. Why does it matter that Murray was born in 1600 is he only began living in the house in 1626? The article is about the house, not Murray. Giving the titles of the owners in the section headings also seems like far too much information, but that is perhaps the least pressing of these three issues. Aza24 ( talk) 20:35, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Isaksenk, Aza24, Johnbod - In preparation for its TFA appearance, I’ve had a go at shortening the titles. I’ve put their dates of “succession” rather than birth, as suggested, and stripped out “of Dysart” etc. where that seems a bit repetitious. I’ve also changed the death date of Lionel, 3rd Baronet, who appears to have gone to his maker in 1669, rather than 1668. I think they work, but if they don’t find favour, just roll back. KJP1 ( talk) 06:15, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
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I remember as a boy playing hooky from school stumping the grounds of Ham house I once did an O level exam Art painting of the south side entrance gardens(aged 15) titled I believed "Looking through an Arch doorway"showed the splendid gardens in full bloom,in fact it helped me achieve an O level grade "A" pass!!!
Many a time I would be jogging pass Ham house,also as a small child riding my bike through Cut throat Ally to Petersham Russell school eventually moving on to Orchard school what great years they were. Lots of Football(Soccer to our American friends) playing with friends Johnny Whittle, Kenny Ball, Guy Elliot,Alan Watson,Tony Varney, Richard Piper just to mention a few ...Katie Flavall my first crush! also to mention Donna McCarthy whose mother took care of my bike while I was at school...
Lived on Buckingham Drive near the school # 8 I think??? since Retired and moved to Tollermache Mews..
I was born in Ham in the house I lived for 24 yrs got married and moved ...that's another story... Now living in the USA...
Anthony Mitchell —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.89.119.127 ( talk • contribs) 13:26, 12 August 2006
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Hello Ham House friends,
Over this extended lockdown period, a group of National Trust volunteers from Ham House have formed a team dedicated to the goal of getting the Ham House page to FA status! We'd like to build on the great foundations already in place to add more depth to the story of the house, gardens, collections and the women & men who made it their home. We are all long-serving volunteers with decades of experience with the property and its history. This project has the endorsement of the National Trust, who are making reference materials available to the team. We'll do our best to expand this article in alignment with Wikipedia's highest standards - however if you see any points of concern, please post here to share your thoughts. Isaksenk ( talk) 16:32, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello HH friends, as I'm sure you will have noticed I posted some updates to the Early Family History and William Murray sections this evening. Our team have been reviewing the details for the last few months and have updated and slightly expanded both sections. We had significant debates on certain points, but focused on the documented evidence available at present. If there are any concerns about our updates, please don't hesitate to reach out and I'll be happy to provide clarifications on behalf of the group. We're continuing work on a number of sections, including those which will significantly expand the article by adding details about the interior and collections. Thanks. Isaksenk ( talk) 17:29, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Hello HH friends, I wanted to briefly explain the rationale behind the structure of today's edits. You'll note that I've added the Paintings organised by room. This is because we will soon be added more content about each room, including cabinets, ceilings, etc. The Header called Painting will eventually disappear and it will just be a review of the Interior & Collections for each room. We have several persons working on each part, so it was the easiest way to integrate multiple contributions. We hope you all enjoy the expansion of the content, and welcome any comments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isaksenk ( talk • contribs) 13:28, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello HH friends, just wanted to update you that I've requested a peer review of the article, to identify what's needed to improve both the quality level and rating. We've already received some very helpful comments from an experienced editor, which I'll be focusing on as a next priority. Please follow the conversation on the peer review page, and as ever, share your knowledge and sources as relevant. Thanks. Isaksenk ( talk) 19:34, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, the table of contents/section headings don't really make sense. Firstly, the "Elizabeth (née Murray: 2nd Countess of Dysart) (1626–1698) and Lionel Tollemache, 3rd Baronet of Helmingham Hall (1624–1669)" desperately needs to be shortened, it distorts the entire table of contents making it very awkward looking. Secondly, the choice of years after names (c.1600–1655 for William Murray, for example), doesn't have to do with the actual time they spent in the house. Why does it matter that Murray was born in 1600 is he only began living in the house in 1626? The article is about the house, not Murray. Giving the titles of the owners in the section headings also seems like far too much information, but that is perhaps the least pressing of these three issues. Aza24 ( talk) 20:35, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Isaksenk, Aza24, Johnbod - In preparation for its TFA appearance, I’ve had a go at shortening the titles. I’ve put their dates of “succession” rather than birth, as suggested, and stripped out “of Dysart” etc. where that seems a bit repetitious. I’ve also changed the death date of Lionel, 3rd Baronet, who appears to have gone to his maker in 1669, rather than 1668. I think they work, but if they don’t find favour, just roll back. KJP1 ( talk) 06:15, 2 February 2022 (UTC)