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This article should be merged into Hallmark Cards because American Greetings appears to be a Public Subsidiary of Hallmark Cards. Let's talk about it. Miracleimpulse 05:26, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Could you provide a source for that? Unfounded, unsourced conjecture does not belong in the article. -- Transfinite 18:07, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Also, I believe you have the wrong article. You are probably looking for
Hallmark Cards. --
Transfinite 18:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Hallmark and American Greetings have already used Wikipedia for purposes of mass deception on the Sweetest Day page, is it such a stretch that they might be deceiving everyone further by posing as two companies? Miracleimpulse 04:10, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Question: Why doesn't this Hallmark article mention that Hallmark makes all Disney greeting cards?
Answer: Because Gibson Greetings used to make all Disney cards, and Gibson was bought by American Greetings.
"All things being equal, American Greetings and Hallmark Cards are a Monopoly." Miracleimpulse 07:44, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Just as a reminder and so there is no confusion, you're arguing over greeting cards. Haizum 06:01, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
The term "Hallmark Holiday" is a pop-cultural reference to the concept that certain "holidays" are created and/or glorified by commercial interests - not just the Hallmark company - in order to sell products rather than celebrate a religious or secular special occasion. While the pop-culture term "Hallmark Holiday" carries the trade name of a specific company, its meaning far transcends the fact that the term carries the tradename of a specific and highly successful greeting card company. These articles should absolutely not be merged, because despite the use of a company tradename (which, of course, should be properly credited as belonging to that company) the term, in pop-culture, has vastly transcended the business dealings of that particular company. Look at it this way: many people use machines made by many companies to photocopy documents, and a large percentage of them to refer to the process as "Xeroxing," even though a large percentage of those photocopies are not made on machines made by the Xerox Corporation. A rough anaology, I admit, but I think it gets my point across. Properly credit the tradename Hallmark to its owner, and include text about how the term "Hallmark Holiday" came into existence, but do not merge the article with that on the Hallmark company. It would be destructive to the informational/social purpose of WikiPedia, and unfairly demeaning to the Hallmark company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.38.104 ( talk) 10:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Are you aware of how big American Greetings actually is? Look at thier corporate information and see all the characters they own, the companies they own, or acquired over the years. If anything, they would buy Hallmark! 142.167.161.78 ( talk) 01:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
I removed hallmarkgreetz.com from the article because I'm not sure it is a legit part of Hallmark.
If I'm wrong, I aplogize, but better safe than sorry. -- Transfinite 19:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Answer: I can understand your thoughts,
but the link to this site is located on the www.hallmark.com site.
Click on "E-cards and More", on the right side there is a banner; New from Hallmark! Make Your Own Holiday Cards. The product is fairly new, and I am not really sure how they call the product itself. It think it should be "Create your own cards.", which is shown on the site itself.
I see it now. I wasn't 100% sure either way, but they have a banner ad off to the side on thier e-cards page. Durr. -- Transfinite 01:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't know about other places, but in North Carolina, Hallmark stores have different names. They're like, Jackie's Hallmark, Debbie's Hallmark, Daphne's Hallmark, and Andy's Hallmark. The first one is in at least Laurinburg, the second and third are in Raleigh and the last one was in Asheville, last I checked. -- Jnelson09 20:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
There are corporate owned and franchised Hallmark Gold Crown Stores. They can have any name such as "Jackie's Hallmark" but they are all Hallmark Gold Crown Stores Chris1834 ( talk) 00:14, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I work with Hallmark Business Expressions' (a subsidiary of Hallmark Cards) communications agency. We are looking to update this article and make it fully accurate and more informative.
We would like to add Hallmark Business Expressions to the Subsidiaries section of this article. According to what I've gleaned from suggestions on the ( WP:NPOV) and autobiographical guidelines ( WP:Auto), the best way of incorporating some of our suggestions is to post them to this talk page to let the community decide how best to incorporate them. If anyone would like to work on this article further, please contact me on my talk page.
My reference for this addition comes from BtoB Magazine and can be found at http://www.btobonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061016/FREE/610160701. If the community is okay with this addition, I will post a revised Subsidiaries section here for final approval and technical review.
I look forward to working with editors transparently and in good faith to make this article better. We understand the value of Wikipedia and want to make sure all interested readers get a thorough, neutral view of Hallmark and its subsidiaries. We respect this process and want to update this article seamlessly and transparently. Thank you. Morningstarcomm ( talk) 15:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Hallmark owns:
Hallmark holiday is just a bit of nonnotable slang used here and there but with no solid cites to provide info that would be able to create an article that is anything but oriinal research/synthesis. Mere use of the term briefly in a couple of columns in no way establishes notability for a Wikipedia article. At best it should get a brief one sentence mention here. DreamGuy ( talk) 20:49, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
So... any arguments that are actually based upon Wikipedia notability rules for articles instead of just
WP:ILIKEIT claims?
DreamGuy (
talk) 22:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Someone replace reference #6 with an up-to-date link. Bulldog73 ( talk) 01:58, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Probably the Hallmark Business Connections should just be deleted? The Business Connection has no content and it seems that people are against merging information to this page. Although the founder of Hallmark links to this page. So I would think that the page Hallmark Cards represents the business and not some other concepts. If this is not correct, then we need a disassociate page, because it is definitely conceptually mixed up; the intro IS about the company. 216.94.244.179 ( talk) 19:44, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Next to founded, it should give a location, no? Simon How can I help? 13:53, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
Hallmark also serves the UK and has stores (although waning in number). I don't know how to verify this officially but maybe someone will want to investigate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VariableDeclared ( talk • contribs) 09:49, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Is Maxine not popular enough for an article? Sure seems odd that there's hardly any mention at all on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.251.118.213 ( talk) 05:09, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing— Hallmark Cards—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. 188.246.71.145 ( talk) 23:51, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
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The entire first paragraph under "History" seems like it could have been lifted from a company brochure. Every sentence could use a citation, and it should undergo a rewrite to make it more wiki-sounding and less like an inspiring tale from a restaurant sugar packet.
I was going to add a citation template, but wiki rules page said templates can be contentious--thus a discussion on the Talk page should ensue first. Wiki also says "break all rules", too. So I'm at a loss about what to do and am posting here first out of an abundance of caution.
Since I doubt Hallmark is high on anyone's list of priorities, why do I have the sinking feeling I'll be the one to put up a Citation template when no one responds to this discussion? Come on people, PROVE ME WRONG! Say something, already. Thanks, and cheers to everyone for helping improve entries. Kinkyturnip ( talk) 07:12, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Muchas gracias! Kinkyturnip ( talk) 03:02, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. No support for this move. ( non-admin closure) В²C ☎ 22:09, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
– Primary topic. The brand has become popular and the page has attracted 31.986 views. [3] Similar to that of the Disney Channel and Nickelodeon pages, anyone who search the word "hallmark" is looking for the company. 198.58.112.202 ( talk) 22:53, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
[[Hallmark]]
, I count:
What year was Hallmark founded?
The year Hallmark is founded is written as 1910 in the second sentence of this page but in the History section it shows the Hall brothers started Norfolk Post Card Company in 1907, bought out another business in 1908 and renamed to "Hall Brothers", and the business didn't become "Hallmark" until 1928. The only time 1910 is mentioned in the history section is in regards to a move to KC that year. Why is that the year listed as the founding? It would make sense to me to use either 1907 as the founding of the company that would become Hallmark, or 1928 when it was officially named.
Which is it?
PS. I have rarely posted to a thread before so please forgive me if this is the wrong place for or way to ask this question
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This article should be merged into Hallmark Cards because American Greetings appears to be a Public Subsidiary of Hallmark Cards. Let's talk about it. Miracleimpulse 05:26, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Could you provide a source for that? Unfounded, unsourced conjecture does not belong in the article. -- Transfinite 18:07, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Also, I believe you have the wrong article. You are probably looking for
Hallmark Cards. --
Transfinite 18:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Hallmark and American Greetings have already used Wikipedia for purposes of mass deception on the Sweetest Day page, is it such a stretch that they might be deceiving everyone further by posing as two companies? Miracleimpulse 04:10, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Question: Why doesn't this Hallmark article mention that Hallmark makes all Disney greeting cards?
Answer: Because Gibson Greetings used to make all Disney cards, and Gibson was bought by American Greetings.
"All things being equal, American Greetings and Hallmark Cards are a Monopoly." Miracleimpulse 07:44, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Just as a reminder and so there is no confusion, you're arguing over greeting cards. Haizum 06:01, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
The term "Hallmark Holiday" is a pop-cultural reference to the concept that certain "holidays" are created and/or glorified by commercial interests - not just the Hallmark company - in order to sell products rather than celebrate a religious or secular special occasion. While the pop-culture term "Hallmark Holiday" carries the trade name of a specific company, its meaning far transcends the fact that the term carries the tradename of a specific and highly successful greeting card company. These articles should absolutely not be merged, because despite the use of a company tradename (which, of course, should be properly credited as belonging to that company) the term, in pop-culture, has vastly transcended the business dealings of that particular company. Look at it this way: many people use machines made by many companies to photocopy documents, and a large percentage of them to refer to the process as "Xeroxing," even though a large percentage of those photocopies are not made on machines made by the Xerox Corporation. A rough anaology, I admit, but I think it gets my point across. Properly credit the tradename Hallmark to its owner, and include text about how the term "Hallmark Holiday" came into existence, but do not merge the article with that on the Hallmark company. It would be destructive to the informational/social purpose of WikiPedia, and unfairly demeaning to the Hallmark company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.38.104 ( talk) 10:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Are you aware of how big American Greetings actually is? Look at thier corporate information and see all the characters they own, the companies they own, or acquired over the years. If anything, they would buy Hallmark! 142.167.161.78 ( talk) 01:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
I removed hallmarkgreetz.com from the article because I'm not sure it is a legit part of Hallmark.
If I'm wrong, I aplogize, but better safe than sorry. -- Transfinite 19:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Answer: I can understand your thoughts,
but the link to this site is located on the www.hallmark.com site.
Click on "E-cards and More", on the right side there is a banner; New from Hallmark! Make Your Own Holiday Cards. The product is fairly new, and I am not really sure how they call the product itself. It think it should be "Create your own cards.", which is shown on the site itself.
I see it now. I wasn't 100% sure either way, but they have a banner ad off to the side on thier e-cards page. Durr. -- Transfinite 01:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't know about other places, but in North Carolina, Hallmark stores have different names. They're like, Jackie's Hallmark, Debbie's Hallmark, Daphne's Hallmark, and Andy's Hallmark. The first one is in at least Laurinburg, the second and third are in Raleigh and the last one was in Asheville, last I checked. -- Jnelson09 20:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
There are corporate owned and franchised Hallmark Gold Crown Stores. They can have any name such as "Jackie's Hallmark" but they are all Hallmark Gold Crown Stores Chris1834 ( talk) 00:14, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I work with Hallmark Business Expressions' (a subsidiary of Hallmark Cards) communications agency. We are looking to update this article and make it fully accurate and more informative.
We would like to add Hallmark Business Expressions to the Subsidiaries section of this article. According to what I've gleaned from suggestions on the ( WP:NPOV) and autobiographical guidelines ( WP:Auto), the best way of incorporating some of our suggestions is to post them to this talk page to let the community decide how best to incorporate them. If anyone would like to work on this article further, please contact me on my talk page.
My reference for this addition comes from BtoB Magazine and can be found at http://www.btobonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061016/FREE/610160701. If the community is okay with this addition, I will post a revised Subsidiaries section here for final approval and technical review.
I look forward to working with editors transparently and in good faith to make this article better. We understand the value of Wikipedia and want to make sure all interested readers get a thorough, neutral view of Hallmark and its subsidiaries. We respect this process and want to update this article seamlessly and transparently. Thank you. Morningstarcomm ( talk) 15:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Hallmark owns:
Hallmark holiday is just a bit of nonnotable slang used here and there but with no solid cites to provide info that would be able to create an article that is anything but oriinal research/synthesis. Mere use of the term briefly in a couple of columns in no way establishes notability for a Wikipedia article. At best it should get a brief one sentence mention here. DreamGuy ( talk) 20:49, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
So... any arguments that are actually based upon Wikipedia notability rules for articles instead of just
WP:ILIKEIT claims?
DreamGuy (
talk) 22:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Someone replace reference #6 with an up-to-date link. Bulldog73 ( talk) 01:58, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Probably the Hallmark Business Connections should just be deleted? The Business Connection has no content and it seems that people are against merging information to this page. Although the founder of Hallmark links to this page. So I would think that the page Hallmark Cards represents the business and not some other concepts. If this is not correct, then we need a disassociate page, because it is definitely conceptually mixed up; the intro IS about the company. 216.94.244.179 ( talk) 19:44, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Next to founded, it should give a location, no? Simon How can I help? 13:53, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
Hallmark also serves the UK and has stores (although waning in number). I don't know how to verify this officially but maybe someone will want to investigate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VariableDeclared ( talk • contribs) 09:49, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Is Maxine not popular enough for an article? Sure seems odd that there's hardly any mention at all on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.251.118.213 ( talk) 05:09, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing— Hallmark Cards—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. 188.246.71.145 ( talk) 23:51, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
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The entire first paragraph under "History" seems like it could have been lifted from a company brochure. Every sentence could use a citation, and it should undergo a rewrite to make it more wiki-sounding and less like an inspiring tale from a restaurant sugar packet.
I was going to add a citation template, but wiki rules page said templates can be contentious--thus a discussion on the Talk page should ensue first. Wiki also says "break all rules", too. So I'm at a loss about what to do and am posting here first out of an abundance of caution.
Since I doubt Hallmark is high on anyone's list of priorities, why do I have the sinking feeling I'll be the one to put up a Citation template when no one responds to this discussion? Come on people, PROVE ME WRONG! Say something, already. Thanks, and cheers to everyone for helping improve entries. Kinkyturnip ( talk) 07:12, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Muchas gracias! Kinkyturnip ( talk) 03:02, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. No support for this move. ( non-admin closure) В²C ☎ 22:09, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
– Primary topic. The brand has become popular and the page has attracted 31.986 views. [3] Similar to that of the Disney Channel and Nickelodeon pages, anyone who search the word "hallmark" is looking for the company. 198.58.112.202 ( talk) 22:53, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
[[Hallmark]]
, I count:
What year was Hallmark founded?
The year Hallmark is founded is written as 1910 in the second sentence of this page but in the History section it shows the Hall brothers started Norfolk Post Card Company in 1907, bought out another business in 1908 and renamed to "Hall Brothers", and the business didn't become "Hallmark" until 1928. The only time 1910 is mentioned in the history section is in regards to a move to KC that year. Why is that the year listed as the founding? It would make sense to me to use either 1907 as the founding of the company that would become Hallmark, or 1928 when it was officially named.
Which is it?
PS. I have rarely posted to a thread before so please forgive me if this is the wrong place for or way to ask this question
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talk) 21:56, 8 February 2023 (UTC)