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I revised the text to indicate their are routes on other faces. - Ratagonia
actually there are at least 3 ways to climb half dome; there is an approach up the southwest face called "snake dike". see http://www.supertopo.com/rockclimbing/route.html?r=yohasnak
There are over 22 rock-climbing routes up Half Dome, including Snake Dike (which is a fine climb). Ratagonia 04:55, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Given its short length, doesn't it seem that 8 photos are too much for this article? How do people feel about creating a page for Half Dome over at Commons, moving the photos (except for the infobox one) over there, and then providing a link to that page? -- hike395 04:56, July 24, 2005 (UTC)
Or too little text? There's quite a few nice photos, and not much text. If people want to add more (relevant) text, it would be great. Ratagonia 23:18, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
8 photos?!?!?! There are only 5! not too many. Reywas92 12:50, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
The article has a red link to "Tenaya Glacier"; would be nice to mention when it's estimated that Half Dome fractured. Was this 40,000 or 400,000 years ago? Tempshill 18:11, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
The mountain peak was used as inspiration to Sierra Entertainment's logo. Shandris 22:49, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, maybe, but that looks a lot more like Matterhorn. I removed this reference, but added the Sierra Club, which has a clear rendition of Half Dome in it's logo. Ratagonia 23:16, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
I think the phrase "turned back from intimidation" over "turned back due to fear" is a bit more accurate, to reflect the implicit risk. I did the hike a few days ago and a person fell to their death the previous day (Nov 8th). I also disagree that gloves would be recommended.
I cannot find any reference in the newpapers (via google) or on the NPS Morning Report for a fatality off Half Dome. You sure? I have never heard of a death on the cable route. Have heard of people getting hit by lightening on top (no big surprise). Source? Ratagonia 20:08, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
OK. It has made its way to the Morning Report. As far as I know, this is the first death of this type on the Cable Route (but I don't know much). Being in the world is dangerous. Take out the glove reference if you disagree; I had never heard of it being recommended, and am not sure it would provide additional safety. Ratagonia 19:04, 14 November 2006 (UTC) Correct. You do not need gloves and leaving them on the mountain is nothing else than litering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.60.12.58 ( talk) 02:07, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I believe there were two other deaths earlier this year, one in March and one in May before the cables were up.
A recommendation requires a citation. Anyone have a citation. I am rather sure that the NPS does not provide gloves, so I took out the reference to gloves at the base of the cable route. In general, some citations in this article would start to bring it up to wiki standards. Ratagonia 17:29, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
I removed all edits by Jpowell2, since they were primarily generic hiking advice. I believe the fountain below vernal falls is the last place for water, but I don't have a citation - I moved that bit further up from where it was at the end, but if someone could cite it that would be great. The bit about the trailhead could be interesting, but I couldn't really follow it, and it was run together with other inappropriate material. 71.232.45.29 22:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
The glove pile is gone, at least as of 7/14 - signs now tell hikers to pack out their gloves rather than leave them for others. If you want to donate your gloves, ask hikers coming up to the cables if they want them.
Statements (advice) about the cable routes (going outside, "easy" without the cables up) may or may not be 'true' - but they certainly need to be sourced. Ratagonia 00:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Summit Post [3])is a reliable source. It recommends climbing Half Dome with cables down. "1. Go before or after the cables are put up (Before mid-May or after mid-October). The cables are still usable. Just pull yourself up with one of the cables." So it still is a class 3 walk, independent of cables up or down.
At the end it is everyones decision: lining up or walking outside the cables. Both is possible and both is done. Climbing in a long line inside the cables could be more dangerous, particularly if you consider that more than 50% of the "climbers" are far away from sufficiant training and equipment. This people are the real danger on Half Dome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.60.12.58 ( talk) 00:31, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
First of all, the current source (7) for the number of deaths claim is unavailable. The current Wiki article states that:
The "9 fatal, 3 in 2007" claim is strangely similar to (but inconsistent with) the claim made here:
There seems to be some confusion as to the correct number. A third figure is given on this page. The page mentions a book, "Off the Wall: Death in Yosemite", which apparently documents all deaths in Yosemite. I don't have access to this book, but if someone does they should use it as a reference. If nothing authoritative is found soon, I suggest we remove the death claims. Matt Gerber ( talk) 23:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Those plus the ones in 2007 and 2009 total five. BoKu ( talk) 06:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
The page is out of date. It lacks the Lowe Bros ( Greg and Jeff) winter ascent of the NW face route. The page also lack citation of the ski descent of the NE side "cable" route. 171.66.170.117 ( talk) 19:17, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Half Dome from Glacier Point, Yosemite NP - Diliff.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on December 30, 2014. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2014-12-30. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks! — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 13:18, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Not a particularly important issue, but " Yosemite's Half Dome Rock Just Got Harder to Climb" may be of interest. 220 of Borg 09:54, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Half Dome/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
While there are a number of citations provided, many are missing details such as publisher and access date. There are a number of paragraphs and statements that require citations. Missing topics include flora/fauna. The lead section needs to be expanded. RedWolf ( talk) 22:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC) |
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Wondering why the first solo ascent of Half Dome is not mentioned? This occured in 1966, by Eric Beck, who still lives in Bishop, CA. I know this, because I know Eric Beck. Also, there have been talks by him at the CA Mountaineering Club, and at least one article written about this. (I'm new here; please be gentle!) Suz55tbird ( talk) 04:41, 14 March 2021 (UTC)suz55tbird
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I revised the text to indicate their are routes on other faces. - Ratagonia
actually there are at least 3 ways to climb half dome; there is an approach up the southwest face called "snake dike". see http://www.supertopo.com/rockclimbing/route.html?r=yohasnak
There are over 22 rock-climbing routes up Half Dome, including Snake Dike (which is a fine climb). Ratagonia 04:55, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Given its short length, doesn't it seem that 8 photos are too much for this article? How do people feel about creating a page for Half Dome over at Commons, moving the photos (except for the infobox one) over there, and then providing a link to that page? -- hike395 04:56, July 24, 2005 (UTC)
Or too little text? There's quite a few nice photos, and not much text. If people want to add more (relevant) text, it would be great. Ratagonia 23:18, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
8 photos?!?!?! There are only 5! not too many. Reywas92 12:50, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
The article has a red link to "Tenaya Glacier"; would be nice to mention when it's estimated that Half Dome fractured. Was this 40,000 or 400,000 years ago? Tempshill 18:11, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
The mountain peak was used as inspiration to Sierra Entertainment's logo. Shandris 22:49, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, maybe, but that looks a lot more like Matterhorn. I removed this reference, but added the Sierra Club, which has a clear rendition of Half Dome in it's logo. Ratagonia 23:16, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
I think the phrase "turned back from intimidation" over "turned back due to fear" is a bit more accurate, to reflect the implicit risk. I did the hike a few days ago and a person fell to their death the previous day (Nov 8th). I also disagree that gloves would be recommended.
I cannot find any reference in the newpapers (via google) or on the NPS Morning Report for a fatality off Half Dome. You sure? I have never heard of a death on the cable route. Have heard of people getting hit by lightening on top (no big surprise). Source? Ratagonia 20:08, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
OK. It has made its way to the Morning Report. As far as I know, this is the first death of this type on the Cable Route (but I don't know much). Being in the world is dangerous. Take out the glove reference if you disagree; I had never heard of it being recommended, and am not sure it would provide additional safety. Ratagonia 19:04, 14 November 2006 (UTC) Correct. You do not need gloves and leaving them on the mountain is nothing else than litering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.60.12.58 ( talk) 02:07, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I believe there were two other deaths earlier this year, one in March and one in May before the cables were up.
A recommendation requires a citation. Anyone have a citation. I am rather sure that the NPS does not provide gloves, so I took out the reference to gloves at the base of the cable route. In general, some citations in this article would start to bring it up to wiki standards. Ratagonia 17:29, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
I removed all edits by Jpowell2, since they were primarily generic hiking advice. I believe the fountain below vernal falls is the last place for water, but I don't have a citation - I moved that bit further up from where it was at the end, but if someone could cite it that would be great. The bit about the trailhead could be interesting, but I couldn't really follow it, and it was run together with other inappropriate material. 71.232.45.29 22:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
The glove pile is gone, at least as of 7/14 - signs now tell hikers to pack out their gloves rather than leave them for others. If you want to donate your gloves, ask hikers coming up to the cables if they want them.
Statements (advice) about the cable routes (going outside, "easy" without the cables up) may or may not be 'true' - but they certainly need to be sourced. Ratagonia 00:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Summit Post [3])is a reliable source. It recommends climbing Half Dome with cables down. "1. Go before or after the cables are put up (Before mid-May or after mid-October). The cables are still usable. Just pull yourself up with one of the cables." So it still is a class 3 walk, independent of cables up or down.
At the end it is everyones decision: lining up or walking outside the cables. Both is possible and both is done. Climbing in a long line inside the cables could be more dangerous, particularly if you consider that more than 50% of the "climbers" are far away from sufficiant training and equipment. This people are the real danger on Half Dome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.60.12.58 ( talk) 00:31, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
First of all, the current source (7) for the number of deaths claim is unavailable. The current Wiki article states that:
The "9 fatal, 3 in 2007" claim is strangely similar to (but inconsistent with) the claim made here:
There seems to be some confusion as to the correct number. A third figure is given on this page. The page mentions a book, "Off the Wall: Death in Yosemite", which apparently documents all deaths in Yosemite. I don't have access to this book, but if someone does they should use it as a reference. If nothing authoritative is found soon, I suggest we remove the death claims. Matt Gerber ( talk) 23:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Those plus the ones in 2007 and 2009 total five. BoKu ( talk) 06:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
The page is out of date. It lacks the Lowe Bros ( Greg and Jeff) winter ascent of the NW face route. The page also lack citation of the ski descent of the NE side "cable" route. 171.66.170.117 ( talk) 19:17, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Half Dome from Glacier Point, Yosemite NP - Diliff.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on December 30, 2014. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2014-12-30. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks! — Crisco 1492 ( talk) 13:18, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Not a particularly important issue, but " Yosemite's Half Dome Rock Just Got Harder to Climb" may be of interest. 220 of Borg 09:54, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Half Dome/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
While there are a number of citations provided, many are missing details such as publisher and access date. There are a number of paragraphs and statements that require citations. Missing topics include flora/fauna. The lead section needs to be expanded. RedWolf ( talk) 22:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC) |
Last edited at 22:39, 5 August 2010 (UTC). Substituted at 17:00, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Wondering why the first solo ascent of Half Dome is not mentioned? This occured in 1966, by Eric Beck, who still lives in Bishop, CA. I know this, because I know Eric Beck. Also, there have been talks by him at the CA Mountaineering Club, and at least one article written about this. (I'm new here; please be gentle!) Suz55tbird ( talk) 04:41, 14 March 2021 (UTC)suz55tbird