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His full name was Henry Balfour Gardiner and his family name was Gardiner. Calling the article Balfour Gardiner would be like naming the article on Mozart: Amadé Mozart. I think it's correct as it is.--
Ebrownless (
talk) 10:26, 14 July 2009 (UTC) There is also a redirect from "Balfour Gardiner".--
Ebrownless (
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10:28, 14 July 2009 (UTC)reply
The very fact that we have a Balfour Gardiner redirect suggests that a significant number of people know him as such, many of whom may not even be aware there's a Henry in his name. But Google hits are interesing -
Yes, you are right that most people call him Balfour Gardiner! But my Baker's Biographical Dictionary of Musicians lists him under "G". Vaughan Williams, however, is under "W". The article on him is called "Ralph Vaughan Williams". I still think that the article on Gardiner is better under his full name. I've just checked out his "Evening Hymn" in an anthem book (New Church Anthem Book): he's listed as H. Balfour Gardiner. --
Ebrownless (
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14:26, 14 July 2009 (UTC)reply
This has nothing to do with his surname, which is Gardiner. It's about whether we use both given names (Henry Balfour), or just his middle name (Balfour), which is the one he's known by, or perhaps "H. Balfour". The third option seems to be the most prevalent one. RVW's surname was Vaughan Williams, and anyone (including Baker's) who refers to him as Williams is just wrong. --
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21:49, 14 July 2009 (UTC)reply
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His full name was Henry Balfour Gardiner and his family name was Gardiner. Calling the article Balfour Gardiner would be like naming the article on Mozart: Amadé Mozart. I think it's correct as it is.--
Ebrownless (
talk) 10:26, 14 July 2009 (UTC) There is also a redirect from "Balfour Gardiner".--
Ebrownless (
talk)
10:28, 14 July 2009 (UTC)reply
The very fact that we have a Balfour Gardiner redirect suggests that a significant number of people know him as such, many of whom may not even be aware there's a Henry in his name. But Google hits are interesing -
Yes, you are right that most people call him Balfour Gardiner! But my Baker's Biographical Dictionary of Musicians lists him under "G". Vaughan Williams, however, is under "W". The article on him is called "Ralph Vaughan Williams". I still think that the article on Gardiner is better under his full name. I've just checked out his "Evening Hymn" in an anthem book (New Church Anthem Book): he's listed as H. Balfour Gardiner. --
Ebrownless (
talk)
14:26, 14 July 2009 (UTC)reply
This has nothing to do with his surname, which is Gardiner. It's about whether we use both given names (Henry Balfour), or just his middle name (Balfour), which is the one he's known by, or perhaps "H. Balfour". The third option seems to be the most prevalent one. RVW's surname was Vaughan Williams, and anyone (including Baker's) who refers to him as Williams is just wrong. --
JackofOz (
talk)
21:49, 14 July 2009 (UTC)reply