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The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. - GTBacchus( talk) 04:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Gymnasium (Ancient Greece) → Gymnasium (ancient Greece) — The "a" should be in lower case, as this isn't part of a proper name. Compare Homosexuality in ancient Greece, Pederasty in ancient Greece --Akhilleus ( talk) 21:42, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
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A counterexample is Art of Ancient Greece. I did look for a guidline on WP:NC, but didn't see anything helpful. However, outside of Wikipedia, the usually practice is not to capitalize "ancient", and for that matter "classical" and "archaic", since these adjectives aren't derived from proper nouns. --Akhilleus ( talk) 21:42, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for all the trouble! (I will be more careful about checking the status quo next time). Somebody should probably move Art of Ancient Greece as well - that's part of what convinced to make this move (the rest was what seemed at the time like reasonable logic). I'll revert all the pages I pointed to the new name to make things easier. Alsandair 22:18, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I added a reference for the point that gymnasia may have encouraged erotic attachments. If anyone has a better or more general one, please substitute it.
I took out Around 1598, the commonly understood meaning of the term changed from "place to be naked" to "place of exercise". Heaven knows what 1598 has to do with it. Gymnasion already meant that in ancient Greek. "Place to strip" is the etymology, not the meaning. Andrew Dalby 09:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I think this article looks to be in good shape from a grammatical, stylistic, usage, spelling, etc. point of view, so I removed the copyedit tag. If someone disagrees, I wouldn't mind at all if it were put back - there's always room for improvement! (Sorry for the cliché!) Thanks, Alsandair 18:42, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I added unreferenced templates to the sections on organisation and development/legacy, as these have a lot of unsourced statements. I already tagged most of the stuff with the "fact" template though, so I'm not sure if this is redundant, or a bad idea for other reasons. Just hoping somebody might notice it within the huge backlog and give it some attention. Feel free to revert me if anyone disagrees! Thanks, Alsandair 00:09, 30 October 2006 (UTC
Something needs to be done about the picture on this article. It shows a picture of gynasium in Pompeii. This is of course a Roman town. I would suggest that this detracts from the article. Surely it would be better to use a Greek example of gymnasium. If an example cannot be found then I would say that the picture should be kept except with some sort of proviso.
Furthermore that captions needs to be changed drastically. The whole caption is almost completely irrelevant. As well as to my mind being factually suspect. The claim about mock naval battles does not to my mind ring true (although of course I am willing to defer to anyone who knows better. My knowledge being far from encyclopaedic on this matter).
Pausanias 01:47, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Which purpose is that?
"The regulation of the Athenian gymnasium is attributed by Pausanias (i. 39. 3) to Theseus. Solon made several laws on the subject; according to Galen these were reduced to a workable system of management in the time of Cleisthenes (late 6th century and early 5th century BC). While the origins of physical exercise regimes cannot be pinpointed, the practice of exercising in the nude had its beginnings in the 7th century BC. The same purpose is frequently attributed to the tradition of oiling the body, a custom so costly that it required significant public and private subsidies (the practice was the largest expense in gymnasia)." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.77.211.9 ( talk) 09:55, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. - GTBacchus( talk) 04:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Gymnasium (Ancient Greece) → Gymnasium (ancient Greece) — The "a" should be in lower case, as this isn't part of a proper name. Compare Homosexuality in ancient Greece, Pederasty in ancient Greece --Akhilleus ( talk) 21:42, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Add * '''Support''' or * '''Oppose''' on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.
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A counterexample is Art of Ancient Greece. I did look for a guidline on WP:NC, but didn't see anything helpful. However, outside of Wikipedia, the usually practice is not to capitalize "ancient", and for that matter "classical" and "archaic", since these adjectives aren't derived from proper nouns. --Akhilleus ( talk) 21:42, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for all the trouble! (I will be more careful about checking the status quo next time). Somebody should probably move Art of Ancient Greece as well - that's part of what convinced to make this move (the rest was what seemed at the time like reasonable logic). I'll revert all the pages I pointed to the new name to make things easier. Alsandair 22:18, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I added a reference for the point that gymnasia may have encouraged erotic attachments. If anyone has a better or more general one, please substitute it.
I took out Around 1598, the commonly understood meaning of the term changed from "place to be naked" to "place of exercise". Heaven knows what 1598 has to do with it. Gymnasion already meant that in ancient Greek. "Place to strip" is the etymology, not the meaning. Andrew Dalby 09:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I think this article looks to be in good shape from a grammatical, stylistic, usage, spelling, etc. point of view, so I removed the copyedit tag. If someone disagrees, I wouldn't mind at all if it were put back - there's always room for improvement! (Sorry for the cliché!) Thanks, Alsandair 18:42, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I added unreferenced templates to the sections on organisation and development/legacy, as these have a lot of unsourced statements. I already tagged most of the stuff with the "fact" template though, so I'm not sure if this is redundant, or a bad idea for other reasons. Just hoping somebody might notice it within the huge backlog and give it some attention. Feel free to revert me if anyone disagrees! Thanks, Alsandair 00:09, 30 October 2006 (UTC
Something needs to be done about the picture on this article. It shows a picture of gynasium in Pompeii. This is of course a Roman town. I would suggest that this detracts from the article. Surely it would be better to use a Greek example of gymnasium. If an example cannot be found then I would say that the picture should be kept except with some sort of proviso.
Furthermore that captions needs to be changed drastically. The whole caption is almost completely irrelevant. As well as to my mind being factually suspect. The claim about mock naval battles does not to my mind ring true (although of course I am willing to defer to anyone who knows better. My knowledge being far from encyclopaedic on this matter).
Pausanias 01:47, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Which purpose is that?
"The regulation of the Athenian gymnasium is attributed by Pausanias (i. 39. 3) to Theseus. Solon made several laws on the subject; according to Galen these were reduced to a workable system of management in the time of Cleisthenes (late 6th century and early 5th century BC). While the origins of physical exercise regimes cannot be pinpointed, the practice of exercising in the nude had its beginnings in the 7th century BC. The same purpose is frequently attributed to the tradition of oiling the body, a custom so costly that it required significant public and private subsidies (the practice was the largest expense in gymnasia)." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.77.211.9 ( talk) 09:55, 17 June 2016 (UTC)