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Dilidor, did you intend to restore Darvarich said he was stoking the aircraft's boiler aboard the craft and was badly scalded in the accident, requiring several weeks in a hospital.
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Important details should be added to the article. One important detail that needs to be written about (in the article) is, even if there was 'powered flight' as such by Whitehead, then was it 'controlled' powered flight? KorgBoy ( talk) 02:48, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
As discussed elsewhere (e.g Talk:Whitehead No. 21 and at WP:FTN [1], Wikipedia seems to be giving undue credibility to claims regarding Whitehead's supposed feats in aviation, despite such claims being dismissed by pretty well every academic/aviation historian source which considers them worth mentioning. This article needs considerable work to comply with policy. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 21:08, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
that no one has been able to definitively prove that it did not fly? Do you even have a clue just how utterly ridiculous that statement is? Wikipedia contributors are under absolutely no obligation to 'prove' anything. Instead, we are obliged, per multiple core Wikipedia policies, to reflect the mainstream academic consensus in articles. Such consensus being that Whitehead didn't fly. End of story. If you want to argue with core policy and permit articles to be based on contributors' own vacuous speculation, this isn't the place top do it. And if you want to accuse me of being 'unable to contribute neutrally to this topic' this isn't the place to do so either. Feel free to take it to ANI (or ARBCOM for that matter - we may well end up there if this blatant fringe POV pushing continues), but expect your own behaviour to come under scrutiny too. I've only just stated looking into this topic, but seems that this policy-violating Whitehead-boosterism has been going on for years. People may well ask why, and how it was permitted to go on for so long? AndyTheGrump ( talk) 18:59, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
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Dilidor, did you intend to restore Darvarich said he was stoking the aircraft's boiler aboard the craft and was badly scalded in the accident, requiring several weeks in a hospital.
to the article? --
John (
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18:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Important details should be added to the article. One important detail that needs to be written about (in the article) is, even if there was 'powered flight' as such by Whitehead, then was it 'controlled' powered flight? KorgBoy ( talk) 02:48, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
As discussed elsewhere (e.g Talk:Whitehead No. 21 and at WP:FTN [1], Wikipedia seems to be giving undue credibility to claims regarding Whitehead's supposed feats in aviation, despite such claims being dismissed by pretty well every academic/aviation historian source which considers them worth mentioning. This article needs considerable work to comply with policy. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 21:08, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
that no one has been able to definitively prove that it did not fly? Do you even have a clue just how utterly ridiculous that statement is? Wikipedia contributors are under absolutely no obligation to 'prove' anything. Instead, we are obliged, per multiple core Wikipedia policies, to reflect the mainstream academic consensus in articles. Such consensus being that Whitehead didn't fly. End of story. If you want to argue with core policy and permit articles to be based on contributors' own vacuous speculation, this isn't the place top do it. And if you want to accuse me of being 'unable to contribute neutrally to this topic' this isn't the place to do so either. Feel free to take it to ANI (or ARBCOM for that matter - we may well end up there if this blatant fringe POV pushing continues), but expect your own behaviour to come under scrutiny too. I've only just stated looking into this topic, but seems that this policy-violating Whitehead-boosterism has been going on for years. People may well ask why, and how it was permitted to go on for so long? AndyTheGrump ( talk) 18:59, 25 November 2022 (UTC)