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Move to
grip (occupation) as more accurate and consistent with other occupations. Restricting this (filmmaking) is inaccurate given that there are grips employed in television and other video production. --
Netoholic@01:14, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Move to
grip (occupation) per
Netoholic. They make a good point that grips work with TV shows, and commercials as well. It also looks like "grip" is used in theatre productions as well. Blumenfeld's Dictionary of Acting and Show Business says a grip is a "stagehand in a theater, or on a film or television set, assigned to various crews (lighting, sound, camera, construction, etc.) to do any and every general task as necessary." So I'd be okay with "occupation" here. Pinging
Mossypiglet,
blindlynx,
Ortizesp to see if they'd reconsider.
Erik (
talk |
contrib) (
ping me)15:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Looking at the articles for double, music editor, and sound editor, I am seeing more reason to make it "occupation". For music and sound editors, they work in video games as well, so "film and television" would not suffice.
Erik (
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ping me)16:51, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Move to
grip (occupation) As the original nominator I now agree with
Netoholic and
Erik that (occupation) is more appropriate. However it seems that (occupation) is more appropriate for all of the pages I gave as examples as all four are used in some television and other productions. So if anyone knows the reason why all of these articles were named (filmmaking) in the first place, if there is a reason, we should consider that but otherwise it would be logical to move/propose moves on all of them.
mossypiglet (
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contribs) 14:22, October 11, 2022 (UTC)
I agree, we should look at those others in future RMs because there may be some nuances that need to be examined (for example, I think
Music editor (filmmaking) should be moved to primary), but suggest waiting for this one to conclude. --
Netoholic@19:56, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Considering most of us here seem to agree on moving it to
grip (occupation) rather than the originally proposed title maybe we should proceduraly close this and reopen it as a batch move request of all of these to whatever 'whatever (occupation)'—
blindlynx00:43, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
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Move to
grip (occupation) as more accurate and consistent with other occupations. Restricting this (filmmaking) is inaccurate given that there are grips employed in television and other video production. --
Netoholic@01:14, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Move to
grip (occupation) per
Netoholic. They make a good point that grips work with TV shows, and commercials as well. It also looks like "grip" is used in theatre productions as well. Blumenfeld's Dictionary of Acting and Show Business says a grip is a "stagehand in a theater, or on a film or television set, assigned to various crews (lighting, sound, camera, construction, etc.) to do any and every general task as necessary." So I'd be okay with "occupation" here. Pinging
Mossypiglet,
blindlynx,
Ortizesp to see if they'd reconsider.
Erik (
talk |
contrib) (
ping me)15:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Looking at the articles for double, music editor, and sound editor, I am seeing more reason to make it "occupation". For music and sound editors, they work in video games as well, so "film and television" would not suffice.
Erik (
talk |
contrib) (
ping me)16:51, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Move to
grip (occupation) As the original nominator I now agree with
Netoholic and
Erik that (occupation) is more appropriate. However it seems that (occupation) is more appropriate for all of the pages I gave as examples as all four are used in some television and other productions. So if anyone knows the reason why all of these articles were named (filmmaking) in the first place, if there is a reason, we should consider that but otherwise it would be logical to move/propose moves on all of them.
mossypiglet (
talk •
contribs) 14:22, October 11, 2022 (UTC)
I agree, we should look at those others in future RMs because there may be some nuances that need to be examined (for example, I think
Music editor (filmmaking) should be moved to primary), but suggest waiting for this one to conclude. --
Netoholic@19:56, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Considering most of us here seem to agree on moving it to
grip (occupation) rather than the originally proposed title maybe we should proceduraly close this and reopen it as a batch move request of all of these to whatever 'whatever (occupation)'—
blindlynx00:43, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.