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Nearly all the anecdotes related of him by Helbig, in the biography contributed by him to the journal Minerva (1797-1800), and freely utilized by later biographers, are absolutely worthless. Well I'm not a historian, but I would assume that it would be necessary to provide some corroboration for such sweeping statements? -- rquinn 06:46, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
There have recently been letters found that prove that Catherine Ii and Potemkin were married. I'll try to find a website that supports this.
disagree with this assesment of Potemkin. He was concerned about well-being of his soldiers to the end of his life, and was visibly moved by the masacres that took place, in Ochakov. See Potemkin by Montefiore page 413. He was champion of the Russian and foreigh Jews. They were under his protection during his reign.)
The Romanization of Потёмкин in this article disregards Wikipedia's own policies on the transliteration of Russian. If I understand correctly, the name should be transliterated as "Potyomkin". If an exception should be made for this proper name, in consideration of the widespread use in existing literature of the form "Potemkin", I would respectfully suggest the placement of a diaeresis on top of the "e", as in "Potëmkin".
Hey all. I just thought I'd make a note that this article is one of my WP:Wikicup targets for this year. I have, in my possession, the Montefiore biography, which I am first going to go through meticulously to expand the article to a decent length. Montefiore himself regards Potyomkin in a positive light, but his factual analysis seems sound and he often distinguishes between corroborated fact and possible myth. The next stage will be to layer in another book in my possession (a biography of Catherine the Great). After that, I will finish off with what I can glean from Google-Books sources, before putting it through a GA.
That much is certain. In later rounds, when I have more time, it would also be nice to get the article to featured status. But that's a little way off. In the meantime and beyond, any help with the article - if only copyediting and flagging up dubious/misleading sentences - would be much appreciated. Regards and a Happy New Year, - Jarry1250 Who? Discuss. 12:13, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Upon reflection, my outstanding concern about this article is subheadings. They identify important elements of his life in general rather than summarizing their contents. There are also no subheadings, which would help.
I'm interested in this, though I have a few other things on at the moment. I'll pop back when I have more time, and if it's still untaken, then I'll do the review. SilkTork * YES! 01:32, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
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Please mark {{done}} if fixed, or explain why it doesn't need fixing;
I've fixed a number of NPOV issues in the article, and I think it passes by this criterion in the present state. The issues mostly included the statement of fictional character of the Potemkin Village story, and the usage of dubious claims by Polish underground opposition historian Jerzy Łojek, contradicting both Montefiore and Russian sources. GreyHood Talk 17:12, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
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This article has passed the GA review process, and I will promote it to GA status Chzz ► 23:47, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
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I thought this to be an unusual name and when I googled it, all hits came back to Wikipedia. I do not have access to the printed book to which it is sourced, but to me it looks like possible vandalism. It's use can be found in the Courtier and general section. -- SVT Cobra 21:27, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
I have raised a citation need against allegation (under subsection Builder) that British convicts diverted from Australia were among those Potemkin encouraged to be resettled in the Crimea as I see no reference to this currently in the wikipedia article on penal transportation. Cloptonson ( talk) 06:07, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
I would like to replace the references to "The Crimea" with simply "Crimea".
I believe it is considered belittling to refer to a region as "the XXX", as in "the Ukraine" and "the Argentine". It implies that the region is not a political entity, just a geographical place that any true political entity could simply claim as their own.
MrDemeanour ( talk) 06:22, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
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Russian statesman
Grigory Potemkin (pictured), unable to organise dinner for
Catherine the Great and the
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Nearly all the anecdotes related of him by Helbig, in the biography contributed by him to the journal Minerva (1797-1800), and freely utilized by later biographers, are absolutely worthless. Well I'm not a historian, but I would assume that it would be necessary to provide some corroboration for such sweeping statements? -- rquinn 06:46, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
There have recently been letters found that prove that Catherine Ii and Potemkin were married. I'll try to find a website that supports this.
disagree with this assesment of Potemkin. He was concerned about well-being of his soldiers to the end of his life, and was visibly moved by the masacres that took place, in Ochakov. See Potemkin by Montefiore page 413. He was champion of the Russian and foreigh Jews. They were under his protection during his reign.)
The Romanization of Потёмкин in this article disregards Wikipedia's own policies on the transliteration of Russian. If I understand correctly, the name should be transliterated as "Potyomkin". If an exception should be made for this proper name, in consideration of the widespread use in existing literature of the form "Potemkin", I would respectfully suggest the placement of a diaeresis on top of the "e", as in "Potëmkin".
Hey all. I just thought I'd make a note that this article is one of my WP:Wikicup targets for this year. I have, in my possession, the Montefiore biography, which I am first going to go through meticulously to expand the article to a decent length. Montefiore himself regards Potyomkin in a positive light, but his factual analysis seems sound and he often distinguishes between corroborated fact and possible myth. The next stage will be to layer in another book in my possession (a biography of Catherine the Great). After that, I will finish off with what I can glean from Google-Books sources, before putting it through a GA.
That much is certain. In later rounds, when I have more time, it would also be nice to get the article to featured status. But that's a little way off. In the meantime and beyond, any help with the article - if only copyediting and flagging up dubious/misleading sentences - would be much appreciated. Regards and a Happy New Year, - Jarry1250 Who? Discuss. 12:13, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Upon reflection, my outstanding concern about this article is subheadings. They identify important elements of his life in general rather than summarizing their contents. There are also no subheadings, which would help.
I'm interested in this, though I have a few other things on at the moment. I'll pop back when I have more time, and if it's still untaken, then I'll do the review. SilkTork * YES! 01:32, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
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Note to Jarry: Before you look at other things, please review the edits made by Greyhood ( talk · contribs) today - I think they reviewed it for Wikipedia:WikiProject Russia/History of Russia task force, and xe made some edits.
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Please mark {{done}} if fixed, or explain why it doesn't need fixing;
I've fixed a number of NPOV issues in the article, and I think it passes by this criterion in the present state. The issues mostly included the statement of fictional character of the Potemkin Village story, and the usage of dubious claims by Polish underground opposition historian Jerzy Łojek, contradicting both Montefiore and Russian sources. GreyHood Talk 17:12, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
1. Well-written:
2. Factually accurate and verifiable:
(c) it contains no original research.
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4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without bias.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day-to-day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by images:
This article has passed the GA review process, and I will promote it to GA status Chzz ► 23:47, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
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I thought this to be an unusual name and when I googled it, all hits came back to Wikipedia. I do not have access to the printed book to which it is sourced, but to me it looks like possible vandalism. It's use can be found in the Courtier and general section. -- SVT Cobra 21:27, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
I have raised a citation need against allegation (under subsection Builder) that British convicts diverted from Australia were among those Potemkin encouraged to be resettled in the Crimea as I see no reference to this currently in the wikipedia article on penal transportation. Cloptonson ( talk) 06:07, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
I would like to replace the references to "The Crimea" with simply "Crimea".
I believe it is considered belittling to refer to a region as "the XXX", as in "the Ukraine" and "the Argentine". It implies that the region is not a political entity, just a geographical place that any true political entity could simply claim as their own.
MrDemeanour ( talk) 06:22, 4 April 2023 (UTC)