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I put the below "citations needed" markers into the article. If the below really are discussed and are criticisms, then let's see the references: who made those criticisms, and where. Is the editor elso implying that changes in hair colour are a critism? Not sure about why that is in there. Same goes for the second paragraph... who made those criticisms, and where were they made. If no references appear by tomorrow I will evict those paragraphs from the article. Asa01 02:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Since Big Brother started, there has been critisism that Gretel's wardrobe is not appropriate to her age. citation needed Along with this, her hair colour has changed from season to season. citation needed There has been discussion in the media for many years about how she contradicts herself being a "family" orientated person where there has been rumors of bi-sexuality or lesbian tendancies in the past. citation needed However, it is unclear how this has any relevance to the idea that she is a "family" orientated person.
This was formerly in the article.
I say this is a point of view unless someone can provide some verification of this as per WP:VERIFY and WP:CITE. She may well be bisexual but failing suitable evidence I just don't see why it belongs here on WP. — Donama 04:50, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
In case it is useful later, putting a link to a recent article on poverty by Killeen:
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help)I have removed the following from the article, and by the looks of this talk page, this isn't the first time it has been removed:
If anyone wants to insert claims about Gretel's sexuality, please provide citations when re-inserting text to this effect. "Citation needed" is not sufficient. As a starting point, it might be useful to mention that she was asked to host the 2002 Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras (according to the Courier-Mail on 28 February 2002 in an article on page 7 by Jennifer Dudley entitled "Party Gal"). - Mark 12:10, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
In fact, after a decent search on Factiva I haven't been able to find any newspaper articles which talk about Gretel Killeen being bisexual or lesbian. Posting information to this effect without any legitimate sources can constitute defamation. Defamed parties can apply for court orders to get server records from web content providers, and identify who the defaming contributor was. I highly recommend the author not to re-add this stuff without first citing sources. - Mark 12:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Gretel Killeen is not the station announcement voice for CityRail; that is the popular Ms Taylor Owynns. Killeen has done voiceover work, however, including a TVC for Nurofen pain-relief medication in the late-90s/early-00s (no citation available, just personal identification of her voice). Seo75 15:07, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
It makes her look like she's primarliy known as an author. And could mislead people into thinking she’s some kind of acclaimed author. Must people just know her as that woman from Big Brother.-- Steven X 14:19, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't how to lock articles from un-registered users but this article is clearly been vandalized by an unknown individual(s). Can somebody lock this article from being edited by un-registered users?
StevenT1 12:06, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't see why we need to go on and on about her "passive aggressive" attitude towards male evictees, this is something that perhaps should be documented on the actual Big Brother Australia article, this article is her biography, Big Brother is not her life, so therefore I will consider merging the criticism section in the BB article. It's silly to make such a big reference about how she "grilled" male housemates. Also nothing is mentioned, that Killeen does not purposefully attack the males, she has said before she does this for the show and that she does apologize afterwards off camera, particularly with Jamie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by StevenT1 ( talk • contribs) 08:46, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, she's no longer hosting BB. (Thank goodness) Not that the current hosts are an improvement on her. Is there a section of how much of an annoying so-and-so she is? I quit watching BB because of her. Katana Geldar 09:29, 6 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katana Geldar ( talk • contribs)
According to what appears to be a fan site (gretel-killeen.com) Killeen married in April 1987 and divorced in 1993, her ex now living in the US. I'd say this is notable enough for the article and likely to be true, but didn't find a reputable source. Anyone? Donama ( talk) 01:32, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
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I put the below "citations needed" markers into the article. If the below really are discussed and are criticisms, then let's see the references: who made those criticisms, and where. Is the editor elso implying that changes in hair colour are a critism? Not sure about why that is in there. Same goes for the second paragraph... who made those criticisms, and where were they made. If no references appear by tomorrow I will evict those paragraphs from the article. Asa01 02:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Since Big Brother started, there has been critisism that Gretel's wardrobe is not appropriate to her age. citation needed Along with this, her hair colour has changed from season to season. citation needed There has been discussion in the media for many years about how she contradicts herself being a "family" orientated person where there has been rumors of bi-sexuality or lesbian tendancies in the past. citation needed However, it is unclear how this has any relevance to the idea that she is a "family" orientated person.
This was formerly in the article.
I say this is a point of view unless someone can provide some verification of this as per WP:VERIFY and WP:CITE. She may well be bisexual but failing suitable evidence I just don't see why it belongs here on WP. — Donama 04:50, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
In case it is useful later, putting a link to a recent article on poverty by Killeen:
{{
cite journal}}
: Unknown parameter |month=
ignored (
help)I have removed the following from the article, and by the looks of this talk page, this isn't the first time it has been removed:
If anyone wants to insert claims about Gretel's sexuality, please provide citations when re-inserting text to this effect. "Citation needed" is not sufficient. As a starting point, it might be useful to mention that she was asked to host the 2002 Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras (according to the Courier-Mail on 28 February 2002 in an article on page 7 by Jennifer Dudley entitled "Party Gal"). - Mark 12:10, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
In fact, after a decent search on Factiva I haven't been able to find any newspaper articles which talk about Gretel Killeen being bisexual or lesbian. Posting information to this effect without any legitimate sources can constitute defamation. Defamed parties can apply for court orders to get server records from web content providers, and identify who the defaming contributor was. I highly recommend the author not to re-add this stuff without first citing sources. - Mark 12:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Gretel Killeen is not the station announcement voice for CityRail; that is the popular Ms Taylor Owynns. Killeen has done voiceover work, however, including a TVC for Nurofen pain-relief medication in the late-90s/early-00s (no citation available, just personal identification of her voice). Seo75 15:07, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
It makes her look like she's primarliy known as an author. And could mislead people into thinking she’s some kind of acclaimed author. Must people just know her as that woman from Big Brother.-- Steven X 14:19, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't how to lock articles from un-registered users but this article is clearly been vandalized by an unknown individual(s). Can somebody lock this article from being edited by un-registered users?
StevenT1 12:06, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't see why we need to go on and on about her "passive aggressive" attitude towards male evictees, this is something that perhaps should be documented on the actual Big Brother Australia article, this article is her biography, Big Brother is not her life, so therefore I will consider merging the criticism section in the BB article. It's silly to make such a big reference about how she "grilled" male housemates. Also nothing is mentioned, that Killeen does not purposefully attack the males, she has said before she does this for the show and that she does apologize afterwards off camera, particularly with Jamie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by StevenT1 ( talk • contribs) 08:46, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, she's no longer hosting BB. (Thank goodness) Not that the current hosts are an improvement on her. Is there a section of how much of an annoying so-and-so she is? I quit watching BB because of her. Katana Geldar 09:29, 6 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katana Geldar ( talk • contribs)
According to what appears to be a fan site (gretel-killeen.com) Killeen married in April 1987 and divorced in 1993, her ex now living in the US. I'd say this is notable enough for the article and likely to be true, but didn't find a reputable source. Anyone? Donama ( talk) 01:32, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
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