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I'm trying to say that house is a sex fiend but I can;t find the proper language for it. He's addicted to porn. He is always oogling beautiful women. He sees hookers. He flirted with an underage patient. He put Carmen Elektra in a story because she is hot. IT'S A CHARACTERISTIC... just like the vicoden addiction. it's not original research. It's all in the show. Somebody help put it in the right language because people ( who either apparentl;y don;t want this article to be thorough or they have no eye for subtext) keep removing it.-- Dr who1975 05:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- Series creator David Shore has said that House's character is partly inspired by Sherlock Holmes. The name "House" is a play on "Holmes" (with English pronunciation, a homophone for "homes"). [1] [2] -- Dr who1975 03:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Why was the Sherlock Holmes Connection section removed?
70.75.46.80 ( talk) 13:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC) Their are other hints, like Houses Secret Santa gift... Which got deleted from the page when I noted it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.75.46.80 ( talk) 13:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
In the latest episode "Joy to the World" Wilson tells a story to Taub and Kutner about Irene Adler being "the one that got away". He then tells them he is kidding but I think the story and the fact that it is about an Irene Adler is definately a Holmes parallel that should be added. 98.112.54.21 ( talk) 08:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)HJ
The article states that Holmes is addicted to opium, but in the original stories it is cocaine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.1.19 ( talk) 05:45, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Should something be added to this section to discuss the fact that House, like Holmes in "The Final Problem", fakes his death (in the series finale) only to reappear to Wilson after his own funeral (as Holmes did to Watson in "The Adventure of The Adventure of the Empty House"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.204.85.218 ( talk) 08:18, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Katie Jacobs says the gay references to House and Wilson are intentional. Should I add it to the article? See [3] in which she says "What I love is that the audience feels, and I feel, that there’s potential for House and Cameron. I think there’s potential for House and Cuddy. There have been a lot of gay references to House and Wilson. [laughs] And I think we’re going to play with all of that." mirageinred 13:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I think its worth a mention as long as its objective. BethEnd 05:25, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
On this edit, I meant to say that although there is a "gay subtext," House's "I love you" to Wilson could have been said in a different context. mirageinred 15:59, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm not really a huge fan of the show but in many of the episodes that I have seen, House is portrayed as an outspoken atheist. His beliefs are even the premise for a few episodes. Should this be added to the article? 72.79.98.201 01:44, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Hey fellas, been a while since I looked at this discussion, I won't repeat my thoughts here you can look in the archive if your intrested but I would like to bring up what somone else sourced in the previous discussions.
This link: http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2006/12/15/01 has a interview with one of the producers of the show that states him as an atheist. Quote by David Shore: "Atheists, to me, fall in the same category, to some extent, as lawyers, in the sense that people hate them, in general but like their own. They know House. They like House. They don't care he's an atheist – I don't think." Hope this refresher helps. TheSittingDuck ( talk) 02:13, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm watching Season 4, Episode 7, and Wilson claims that House is a practicing Wiccan. I also heard House mention it in a previous episode (but I didn't make a note of it.) However, the belief system of Wicca seems a bit incongruent with House to me. I guess if the producers say that he's an Atheist, then it should stay in the article, but perhaps it should be noted that there is some question about whether or not that is accurate. 87.209.13.176 ( talk) 00:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
He's certainly an atheist, but why does the article say he's a nihilist? I don't see much evidence of that. MazeMaster ( talk) 22:28, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
The problem is, it's inconsistent. This is really to do with there being a number of different writers, each bringing their own interpretation of House to the table. Sure, House readily hurls abuse at any religious adherent, but being irreligious doesn't make you an atheist. Also, look at this quote:
"You took a chance, you did something great. You were wrong, but it was still great. You should feel great that it was great. You should feel like crap that it was wrong. That’s the difference between him and me. He thinks you do your job, and what will be, will be. I think that what I do and what you do matters. He sleeps better at night. He shouldn’t."
There is no atheistic precedent for that standpoint. If you're an atheist and only believe in the natural world, you're tied to the idea of Laplace's Demon (with a little quantum randomness thrown in if you like), and the other doctor (sorry, I forget his name) has got it right, whatever will be WILL be. So if he is an atheist, he's not a very good one (not a very good nihilist either for that matter). Also, it's worth noting that if he were a real person, he wouldn't make the list of atheists here on wikipedia, having never stated this position himself. I think all we can say for sure is that he doesn't believe in an interventionist god, but that doesn't make him an atheist.-- 86.128.33.162 ( talk) 19:54, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
First to the IP, I want to say that there can be no argument that House is an atheist. Atheism is ipso facto, a belief in no God. House doesn't believe in one, it is obvious from watching the show, and sources agree. There is nothing further that can be explicitly worked out about a person if you know they are an atheist. Atheists can take meaning from life, and they can't. It is up to the individual atheist.
"if one takes a materialist standpoint (as any rational atheist would have to)" An immaterialist standpoint is completely compatable with a belief in no God.
"Given enough knowledge of the system, a third party could hypothetically predict how a person will react in any given situation." Only if determinism holds. Determinism doesn't hold in most interpretations of Quantum Mechanics, although there are some interpretations that keep determinism (as someone about to study Physics at uni from October, I hope determinism does stick around!).
"So whatever will be will be, and ultimately nothing we do matters, and for House to suggest otherwise is illogical." It might be your personal view that House's beliefs are illogical, but since the sources say otherwise, that would be original research on your part.
To Methulah:
"Nietzsche was by no means a nihilist" Well yes it's true that Nietzsche is a lot more complicated than just "Nietzsche is a nihilist", but he is very much intimately linked to nihilism, and certainly modern nihilism is based on a lot of his views.
"House does indeed find meaning in "solving the puzzle." But no-one has ever suggested that House gets meaning from solving the puzzle, only that he likes solving them. Liking something and getting meaning from something are no the same thing. In fact, his liking is pretty damn strong i.e. kind of like an addiction of his. This does not disqualify him from being a nihilist.
"As for atheism, I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of atheists would believe in free will." This is quite an interesting situation: we have Methulah here saying that atheists are mostly believers in free will, and the IP saying that atheists are determinists. The only way you can both be right is if we say that Atheism = Compatibilism. But this is not the case. The vast majority of people see determinism and free will as mutually exclusive, and of those that do, I would say that most atheists (but certainly not all) are determinists. I really can't see most atheists believing in free will as you conjecture. Some will, but not all, so the IP is slightly closer to the truth with that one imo.
Incidentally, I just found a source for his nihilism which is what I wanted, so I shall add that, but would like to find specific bits of episodes that mention/suggest it as well, though I haven't got time at the moment, but if anyone can find any quotes from episodes that would be great! Deamon138 ( talk) 17:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, enough already. This discussion has gone on for far too long. Here's a simple compromise. We change, "He is an atheist and a nihilist," to "He is seen as an atheist and nihilist." Regardless of the exact metaphysics of atheism and nihilism and House's worldview and what-not, it is clear that the popular perception of House is as an atheist and a nihilist, a fact that we can cite using the the Entertainment Weekly article that we cite. Can we please bring this discussion to an end now? -- Hnsampat ( talk) 23:35, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
No, I'll have the last word here, and it'll be this: congratulations Dr. Deamon138 and Dr. 86.128.33.162, your doctoral dissertation on the subject of atheism, nihilism, and House, M.D. has been accepted. :) -- Hnsampat ( talk) 02:04, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
"I don't see how any thinking atheist can believe in the supernatural, yet deny the possibility of any sort of god."
But House doesn't believe in the supernatural. —Preceding
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72.229.184.96 (
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Season 6, May 17, 2010, "Help Me", House states, "I don't believe in God." Atheist: Person who does not believe in God/s. I guess the case is closed on this one. If this long talk page discussion has proven anything it's that whether dealing with fictional or real-life examples, when you look for divine inspiration, you're bound to find it; even if none exists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexanderCahan ( talk • contribs) 02:30, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Couple of points. First, just like it's possible to believe in a religion but not live perfectly by its rules, it is also possible to be an athiest but pray when in a dangerous situation or even have one or two moments where you raise your hands up to god. There's nothing more annoying than religious people who think everyone is secretly religious. It doesn't mean you believe in god -- it only means you have one or two moments where you don't live perfectly to your own standards, and if it happens to religious people it happens to atheists too. There is nothing "apparent" about House's atheism and apparent is a weasel word and should be removed. Second, Season 7 Episode 8 Small Sacrifices closes the book on whether House believes in Christianity in any form. Even if you think he's agnostic, you cannot reconcile the episode with others. Saying that House is "secretly expressing and extolling virtues and traditions of various religions, particularly Christianity" is clear original research. Even if you can source principles of Christianity which House professes to or believes in, there is nothing "particular" about many of the beliefs of Christianity -- they are not special and shared by many religions. For example even Muslims have a version of the ten commandments and House reads the Koran. However, nobody would ever think of saying House "secretly expresses the traditions of Islam." So at the very least the weasel words "apparent" and "particular" should be removed, and perhaps the reference to Christianity entirely. 206.248.158.190 ( talk) 04:41, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Just to add to this discussion and bring it to an ultimate close: House outright states "I'm an Atheist" in season 7 episode 9, aired January 17th. 86.28.150.115 ( talk) 11:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Is there a specific quote that backs this up? Most of the second season seems to suggest she left him, after being pushed away by his (unspoken?) resentment that she went behind his back while he was in a coma. Vice versa, isn`t there a quote somewhere that specifically says she left him? Calling all micro-fans here... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.52.171.29 ( talk) 10:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Wilson mentions having to take care of House after she left, implying that she took off on him, not the other way around BethEnd 14:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Also Mark Warner says in the last ep Season 1 (to Stacy): "You left him and he just had a limp!" I assume her husband would know the story of who left who. —Preceding
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89.52.156.191 (
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I like the idea so much that if it is an opinion, I don't realize it, but I see House's meeting with the buraku doctor as the defining moment of his life.
"They hated him. But they listened to him. Because he was right."
He must have realized at that moment that if he followed in that doctor's footsteps, he'd have unbelievable power. No one would deny him anything as long as he was right. And if his father was as abusive as he claimed, he would find that kind of power irresistible. That's why he was just the same before the infarction, because he could be. His leg and the pills are just excuses that others make for his behavior. He's a Randian "aristocrat of talent", and he milks it for all it's worth.
And, though I admit it makes me a jerk, I'd be House if I could. I've been abused, and I'd love to share the wealth while living as I wished. User:Kalaong 23:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
In tonight's (November 27, 2007) Episode, he mentions getting an A on the MCAS, which is a standardized test in Massachusettes. This could be a joke, but it could also be a refrence as to where he spent his early childhood. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.247.23.58 ( talk) 02:27, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
"Oma" is also german for Grannie. So do we really know if he has dutch ancestors? —Preceding
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87.79.238.31 (
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Based on what I know about House, I would guess that he left her, but I don't know for sure. Does anybody have a source? mirageinred 00:30, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
After a thorough review of this article, I feel that its promotion to Good Article status is acceptable for the following reasons: 1. Prose is quite engaging and lucid 2. Substantial reliable sources (although some sources should be amended such that they don't reference episode descriptions on Wikipedia. 3. Article is quite stable with no visible edit warring 4. No Original research that I can see Wisdom89 ( talk) 08:31, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Please stop removing this statement "Dr. James Wilson and Dr. John Watson have the same initials, and the same honorifics" from to article.
Your edit comment was: "Wikipedia is not based on truth, but WP:V. The article is already chock full of OR - we don't need more..find a source."
If you insisted on a source for ever statement that was obviously true (and included all those with even less certainty) in Wikipedia, then the dictionary would have to be mostly deleted.
You referred me to WP:V. I point out to you what it says at the top of that page: "This page in a nutshell: Material challenged or likely to be challenged, and all quotations, must be attributed to a reliable, published source."
The article refers to the importance of citing "surprising or apparently important claims that are not widely known". I don't need a source for such a basic statement of fact (which is not OR), and as a basic fact, it is immediately "know:" to the reader. A basic relevant statement of fact is not OR, and is not something that is likely to be "challenged". -- David Broadfoot ( talk) 15:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I think the statement should be removed, because I do believe it is OR. Yes, Watson and Wilson have the same initials but adding the sentence makes it seem as the same initials were an intentional effect by the writers to emphasize the similarity. The paragraph about parallels to Sherlock Holmes is not to list every similarities Wilson or House share with Holmes or Watson that the viewers may see; it is about listing how the parallels influenced House/Wilson as a character. mirageinred ( talk) 21:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
The fact that they both do almost the exact same job is not just a similarity, it is definitely a direct paralell: the exact nature of their jobs is to solve complex cases that others in their fields cannot. I agree that my source for House's job was the wrong choice, but considering it is an established fact of the show it surprisingly isn't really specifically cited anywhere. I think that is more of a parallel than the fact that both of them are drug users, although that is still perfectly acceptable. ( Independentwoman ( talk) 04:50, 6 January 2008 (UTC))
It would be interesting with a section about how far from reality the cases in the series go. I guess at least some of the cases to some extent are based on medical facts, but how much is pure fiction? Mlewan ( talk) 21:12, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
About 19 of the 43 references in the article are internal wikipedia sources. If most of those 19 references would be siwtched to real ones, than this article has a good potential to become a featured article. Nergaal ( talk) 07:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Why isn't there ANY discussion about Cameron? Their "relationship" lasted almost 3 seasons. Nergaal ( talk) 07:44, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
House has several interesting customs/nervous ticks that should be presented in this article. Some examples: playing the big ball and the cane; with PSP; etc. Nergaal ( talk) 07:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed the recently added images as they are out of place and really didn't add anything to the article. They simply do not convey any more information than the text already does. Wisdom89 ( T / C) 07:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I am thinking af adding some more little bits of information to give a more detailed reason for why their is a similarity, more specifically, I am planning to research subtle signs that show up in only one episode of the show -- Ilikemangos ( talk) 07:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
There are several episodes (e.g. Daddy's Boy episode 5 season 2, and The Socratic Method season 1 episode 6) where others suggest that Gregory House enjoys reuben sandwiches. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.36.204 ( talk) 17:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
House holds his cane on the same side as his leg injury - which as any doctor could tell you, is the wrong way to use a cane (it should be in the opposite hand). Is this a relevant point to put in the article (maybe under a plot hole/error section)? 132.203.169.198 ( talk) 00:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
No, a person can hold a cane however they want. Just because you are 'meant' to hold a cane one way doesn't mean you have to. I've seen, heard of etc. plenty of people who hold their cane in the 'wrong' hand, and most of them would probably punch in the face you for saying this. People do whatever feels comfortable, we are all individuals and don't have to live how the medical books tell us to. If you have to use a cane for the rest of your life you will use it however you like to, not the way the physics teacher tells you is most efficient. 86.149.31.67 ( talk) 19:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Just FYI everyone, there is reference to this in the show. In the episode "Whac-a-Mole", House goes to see a physical therapist, and she says "Have you considered using your cane on the correct side." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stuck in sanity ( talk • contribs) 21:32, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I would have to perceive that perhaps House's knowledge of his "misuse" of his cane adds to his character as not wanting to follow custom, and such, and unwilling to do what other tell him to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fleapwns ( talk • contribs) 22:50, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
given his symptoms, does he suffer from complex regional pain syndrome or is it neuropathic? or something completely different. I'm not a doc, so maybe someone has an answer given the symptoms he suffers from. 67.184.99.68 ( talk) 01:22, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
or neither of those? just trying to contribute to this article and make it more detailed. 67.184.99.68 ( talk) 03:23, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
The article claims that House has a level of understanding of a great many specifically mentioned languages. However, the only three languages that the references provided seem to indicate to me that he understands are Spanish, Portuguese and Hindi. Can somebody explain where it is established that he understands the other languages mentioned? -- Susurrus ( talk) 03:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
An IP has added Yiddish as a language that House speaks. Is this right? I don't remember it. Does he actually speak it, or is this just based on pop culture references that House makes to people (in this case his Jewish friend Wilson, or that Jewish couple in an episode of season 4)? In fact what's the difference between Yiddish and Hebrew anyways? At the moment the article says he speaks "Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese, Hebrew, Latin, Yiddish and Hindi." Hindi: yes I agree he is fluent as judged when he read Von whatchamacallits article in the Indian journal (season 2). Mandarin yes also. Although House says something in effect that he can only speak a couple fo phrases to the Chinese girl, those phrases are kinda hard I imagine so he must be pretty adept at it. I don't particularly remember him speaking Spanish or Portuguese, but that could be true. But Japanese? When? And Latin? When? Surely not all the medical names for things in Latin, that doesn't count, they are now part of the English vernacular, even if they are technical terms. However, whether we need all these languages or not, it is clear that House is adept at picking up languages quickly, and I'm sure there's a word for that kind of thing. If anyone thinks of such a word that fits that definition, maybe it needs adding to the article? Deamon138 ( talk) 19:37, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
If no editors can find reliable second party publications/sources that establish House's level of foreign language comprehension, I am going to remove the information. Watching DVDs of the show is insufficient. Wisdom89 ( T / C) 01:12, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Okay, here are my thoughts now:
By the way, Washout89 (or anyone else) do we really need to have a secondary source for this, and not use the episode? It seems a lot of cites (although I haven't checked so I'm not certain) on here are for specific episodes. What policy/guideline is it that says we can't do this? I'm just confused, because we can use the written word for a cite (eg a book) , but can't use video? Okay, here's an example: in the last episode so far, Amber died. Would we have needed a cite for that to specifically come from a second source, or if there was none (thankfully there is), could we have used that episode as a source? Or is there no cutoff point? I hope you can help me understand this. Deamon138 ( talk) 21:27, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
A definite no on the Hebrew and the Yiddish (for the record, Yiddish is a dialect of German, pretty much the only Hebrew it contains are loan words.) House only knows common phrases that are widely known among non-speakers (at least among Americans that watch a wide variety of shows, such as The Daily Show.) As an analogy; lots of Americans can tell you what Salaam Aleikum means, but very few can actually claim any significant "level of understanding" of Arabic; they don't even know basic Arabic grammar. Smw543 ( talk) 09:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
I notice that the "polyglotism" claims are still in the article although they are ill supported. All doctors
know a set of standard words and phrases in Latin and very few could translate Virgil, for instance. 1Z ( talk) 00:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
In the Season 1 Episode "The Socratic Method" (1-06) House goes through a birthday. The airing date is December 21st, 2004. The previous episode two weeks prior "Maternity" (1-04, Air Date Dec.7 2004) House gives the date of an autopsy performed during the episode as taking place on December 2nd, 2004, 5 days earlier than the air date. This can be explained by the shooting date or just the final cut date of the episode.
This should put House's birthday at anywhere around December 16th to December 21st. I think it's simplistic to assume Laurie and House share the same birthday, let alone age. The social security card could be a props mix-up or just a mash-up of Laurie's own data on a fake card, but being British he doesn't have a SS card.
Thoughts? I just don't think the referencing for the Birthday is legit
And now I'm going to go hurt myself for posting about the biographical data of a fictional character. —Preceding
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209.131.94.7 (
talk) 19:44, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
In "No Meaning" the close-up on House's hospital bracelet shows his DOB as June ?? (too lazy to look it up now) and Shore says in the commented DVD version of this episode that they decided to use Laurie's DOB for this. They simply ignored that an earlier episode had it in December. —Preceding
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89.52.171.186 (
talk) 11:57, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
In the episode "The Jerk" (penultimate one of season 3), he is shown to be a good (at least) chess player. Any ideas where this should be added on the page? Deamon138 ( talk) 21:00, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
I was vandalizing the Nephrology article to include Gregory House, and I noticed an uncanny similarity in the spelling of Gregory House and Georg Haas, a notable nephrologist who did something involving hemodialysis. Possible relation? 74.56.236.39 ( talk) 03:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
I noticed this sentence, "However, the chronic pain in his leg comes back and House starts taking Vicodin once again." which is the first mention of Vicodin in the article. It is not until later on that it is mentioned that he has an addiction to Vicodin. Either this first instance of Vicodin needs to be edited, or we need to mention Vicodin even earlier than this. Any suggestions? Deamon138 ( talk) 01:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
The article say he received his undergrad degree from Hopkins. Later it mentions that while doing his undergrad he was caught cheating and was expelled, finishing his studies from Michigan. So which one is it? Wikihonduras ( talk) 17:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
The cheerleading picture in question is actually fake, as House admits to being decent in Photo editing, and thus creating the picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fleapwns ( talk • contribs) 22:48, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
In tonight's episode, Wilson makes reference to a prior case, a woman named Irene Adler, with whom House was obsessed. It's a fairly clear nod to Holmes, who was also obsessed with a woman named Irene Adler. Anyone know if it's been confirmed by anyone involved with the show? -- BRPierce ( talk) 04:26, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
The intro contained the statement "House is also often portrayed as lacking empathy and sympathy for his patients," which is untrue (actually only half true.) Although he rarely sympathizes with his patients (making the rare exceptions all the more significant), he nearly always is able to empathize, using the most common definition of empathy as being able to understand a persons thoughts and feelings. While this usually results in sympathy, House is clearly an exception. House, in fact, constantly demonstrates a capacity for empathy, such as in when he breaks down the motives behind peoples actions. A great example of this is in "Half-Wit," the episode where everyone thinks he has brain cancer: as each member of his team comes into his office to comfort him, he "cheapens it" by explaining why they came (culminating in Chase being there because it was "[his] turn.") Really, though, you could find ten to twenty examples in any given episode.
Basically, sympathy and empathy are like two sides of the same coin; sympathy is the emotional side, and empathy is the intellectual side. House is hardly lacking in intellectual capacity but rarely exhibits (sympathetic) emotions. It seems there was an error at the mint when printing House's coin. Smw543 ( talk) 09:59, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
I think this would be a good example of what you mean Smw543: In the episode The Socratic Method, House shows a rare display compassion when he lies to the kid about the Mother turning the kid in to Child Services. This spares the kid the knowledge that his Mother did so. Usually, House would have told the kid the truth, as he usually only lies to get a diagnosis and has little or no care for the feelings of others. As is typical for House, he also hides his act under a pretense of wanting to see no more of the child. This wouldn't be possible without empathy and sympathy. 66.41.44.102 ( talk) 09:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
What did House get a degree in? This is sort of important - the other characters in the show have specialties - plastic surgeon, immunologist, neurologist, etc. What kind of doctor was House originally? I don't see this in the article - if the show has ever mentioned his original field, it should be added to the article. Some guy ( talk) 23:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
There is an anon who is quite insistent that House be listed as a fictional murderer because of the events and dialogue from the episode " Informed Consent". I do not think that we should for a couple of reasons:
Those are my opinions. Let the discussion begin. kingdom2 ( talk) 03:38, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Where was it ever stated that House is Dutch-American? 189.4.250.18 ( talk) 01:05, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Im wandering if there is any symbolism in the name House —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.182.30.6 ( talk) 01:12, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
In the first season, there are 2 or 3 episodes where Dr. House has a black Nintendo Game Boy Advance, and he's playing one of the Metroid games. In episode 14, a Nintendo DS is possibly seen, although it might be a PDA or something. In episode 15 it's revealed to be a DS for sure, and he's playing Metroid: Prime Hunters on it. So... 1) Does Nintendo have an advertising contract with Fox? 2) Can it be inferred that Dr. House is a fan of the series, or possibly inferred that there's a reason for that (e.g. strong female lead, or pure escapism)? NathanJ1979 ( talk) 08:32, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, in the paragraph "Character history" it states "The season finale shows this to have been a hallucination; House is still on pain medication and it is revealed that he has been taking Oxycodone". However, he was using hydrocodone, which is vicodine. One can see the "o" in front of "codone" in the close-ups of the prescription bottle. Bye —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.55.69.138 ( talk) 01:05, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Gee, thanks for the spoiler on the dad DNA test. The rest of the world may not have seen the latest season. Is it really necessary to add these kinds of details immediately, when they constitute spoilers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.52.171.186 ( talk) 11:49, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
What about his habbit of stealing food,money for food or not paying for it in the Princeton canteen or how it is called in the hospital.Almost in half of episodes he does it and everybody knows.It shows that he is treated as special in the hospital(he also never wears medical coat).I think it should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.124.0.7 ( talk) 04:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
The article mentions that in the episode "Lines in the sand", Wilson suggests to Cuddy that House may have Aspergers, and then says to House that he does not believe this. I think it should make clear that his choice of words indicates that House put him up to this. Gazok ( talk) 05:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't Wikipedia section http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes#Use_of_drugs be better than reference #7? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.159.142.158 ( talk) 00:50, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
"House then attended the University of Michigan for the remainder of his study and met Lisa Cuddy (Lisa Edelstein), his future boss,[23] with whom he shared a one night stand.[24]" I think that's wrong, nothing like this happens in that episode that is quoted in [23] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.131.242.172 ( talk) 08:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
House says something like "because one night I gave you everything" to which Cuddy replies "This is exactly why I never mentioned our one date a couple of years back" 85.181.150.58 ( talk) 20:56, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
In episode "Known Unknowns", House tells Cuddy that he never got back in touch with her after the one-night stand, see where things were going to go from there. "That was the morning I got the call from the dean, and I was expelled from my first med school, and there didn't seem any point." That would have happened at the University of Michigan, which is where Cuddy attended. If he got kicked out of Michigan, and kicked out of Johns Hopkins (the episode "Distractions"), where did he get his degree? 72.72.131.169 ( talk) 09:50, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
By the way I watch this series... Gregory House doesn't act as Gemini [4]. Really he acts as Sagittarius [5]. His fanatic addiction... Always runs, can't sit at one place. Always thinks.
So may be we can discuss it...
I Just apologize... Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pabraxas ( talk • contribs) 06:25, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Должен признатса очень очень класный сериал.Я целую неделью не выходил из дома. Будетли 5-сезон? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.238.106.117 ( talk) 13:59, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
The article says that "More famous actors such as Denis Leary, Rob Morrow and Patrick Dempsey were also considered". Surely Hugh Laurie was a well known actor, even for insular Americans. I have never heard of Denis Leary or Rob Morrow. 124.197.15.138 ( talk) 07:38, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Nobody feels like commenting on the heavy promotion of the use of Vicodin for pain relief ? The Vicodin contains an opioid (hydrocodone) that generates a large number of adverse effects among which dependence. Nevertheless, "Due to its opiate-related side effects such as euphoria, sedation and somnolence, hydrocodone is now one of the most common recreational prescription drugs in America ...... Recreational hydrocodone use is particularly prevalent among teenagers and young adults because of the drug's widespread availability" (Citation from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocodone)
In addition it is easily available on the internet at costs that, when accounting for contained compounds, go largely beyond a reasonable production cost.
As many other trademarks are available on the market (Hydrococet, Symtan, Anexsia, Dicodid, Hycodan (or generically Hydromet), Hycomine, Hycet, Lorcet, Lortab, Norco, Novahistex, Hydrovo, Duodin, Kolikodol, Orthoxycol, Mercodinone, Synkonin, Norgan, and Hydrokon) but only Vicodin is (heavily) cited in the Dr. House series, a financial deal or sponsorship among the Dr. House series producers and the Abbott Laboratories can be suspected.
This is borderline with both medical and cinema ethics, and merit discussion or at least a citation in a "controversy" headline.
Originbob ( talk) 23:43, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
If Gregory House were to be tested for his personality type under the Meyers-Briggs system, he would be INTJ: (Introverted-Intuitive-Thinking-Judging) he's arrogant, lacks social graces, a problem solver, and has to have everything make sense. As Wilson put it, not a messiah complex but a "Rubrik" complex.
I will add this if no one disagrees. Hvacrmaster ( talk) 19:16, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
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House does not display Ni as a dominant, Te as an auxiliary, Fi as his tertiary, or Se as his inferior cognitive functions. He displays a massive amount of introverted thinking and extraverted intuition, which would likely make him an INTP. This kind of discussion is better left in type forums. — Preceding
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Article talk pages are for discussing improvement to their associated articles, not for general discussion of the subject. Without reliable sources discussing what would happen if we gave the test to this fictional character, there is nothing to discuss here. - SummerPhD ( talk) 13:07, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I removed "Lisa Cuddy" as being listed as "Girlfriend" under "Significant Other"; while the two characters did kiss at the end of episode 22 of the sixth season, episode 132 overall, it is not stated in the episode that they are in a relationship. People can kiss without being in a relationship. Whether the kiss is an implication that the two are in a relationship is irrelevant. This is an encyclopedia; it is based on facts, not presumptions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.57.67.148 ( talk) 11:02, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Actually, it's an open-sourced encyclopedic information site. Also, it is not based directly on fact. It is based on sources. 98.215.120.42 ( talk) 00:19, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
If anyone wants to use it: http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/television/1165208,CST-FTR-house16.article
Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ( Otters want attention) 17:59, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
It says in the article: "He then attended the University of Michigan in order to finish his medical study. In Michigan, while working at the bookstore, he met his future boss and love interest – Lisa Cuddy" except in season 6x06 the episode Known Unknown, he says he was going to call Cuddy and come see her but that was the day he got kicked out of his first medschool so it seemed like there wasn't any point. Which directly contradicts the article in cannon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.78.51.0 ( talk) 07:33, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
In the article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_House_characters#John_and_Blythe_House discussing the funeral of House's father (#504 Birthmarks), it is noted in the text: "His father John is a retired Marine Corps aviator" and "pointing out his father's lack of compassion by referring to the fact that no officers of inferior rank (John House was a Colonel) attended his funeral."
The photo which accompanies the article is of a Marine Gunnery Sergeant (E-6), with 2 'lifer' stripes (service stripes, each representing 4 years of service. An officer does not wear service stripes; 'retiree' usually refers to 20+ wyears of service (and correspondingly, 5 or more service stripes); . Officers wear their rank on the collar or shoulder straps of the uniform. As a retired Marine Corps aviator, the Aviation Insignia would be worn over the row of ribbons on the left breast of the uniform, (and proudly, I might add.)
I guess I'm confused that these inconsistencies exist. I do not know the true rank of House's father, and consequently cannot 'fix' the text of the article. If anyone is aware of the correct rank/photo, could they correct this? Thanx! (p.s. no actual research occurred in the construction of this essay; I am a former Marine (Sgt, USMC) and this information is common knowledge to any member of the Corps.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.207.225.55 ( talk) 03:22, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Having just seen "Alone" (& still laughing ;p ), where Wilson kidnaps the Flying Vee guitar, can we add the model & year? (The soundtrack "bleeps" the year by closing a door... Shades of "GAH". 8o ) Hannibal Starling dinner's ready, Clarice 01:22, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
The use of the term antihero is not properly applied to House. An antihero has no heroic qualities -- quite the opposite. The correct term is tragic hero -- a heroic figure with a (character) flaw. It is not correct for an encyclopedia to perpetuate incorrect definitions merely because some blog makes the error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.53.79.39 ( talk) 00:00, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Um, once again, no. An antihero doesn't fit the mold of a standard hero, i.e. being 100% or mostly morally pure. An antiheor can do and have some heroic qualities. The whole point is that he is not your typical hero and while he does do heroic things, he is not your average hero. Stopp adding it, everyone but you sees you're wrong. Stop
Given House's passion for truth, while at the same time he casually lies about anything & everything, has there ever been an examination of the dichotomy? Can we mention it? Nathan R. Jessup call a code 17:36, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
I don't know who keeps changing it, haven't paid attention.. Stacy is houses ex-WIFE, not ex-girlfriend as someone has changed back to at least 3 times thus far. If you haven't picked up they were married thus far you shouldn't be editing his wiki page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djphrost ( talk • contribs) 05:39, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
[6]Cameron: You ever been married?
House: [quietly] Well now, let’s not ruin a lovely night out by getting personal.
[They walk along in silence for a few seconds]
House: I lived with someone for a while. [Looks down at his empty cotton candy cone, then at Cameron’s] You gonna finish that?
Late to the party, but should it be noticied that House couldn't possibly be at US military base on Egypt as a kid, as mentioned on the series, given his age? Egypt was a strong USSR ally until at least 1973, and wasn't until Camp David that they started to have serious military relations with US, AFAIK. Minor detail, of course, maybe it's not even worthwhile, just mentioning because I am a huge fan of the series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.209.62.165 ( talk) 02:56, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
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"Atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby." -- Penn Jillette
"Atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sex position." -- Bill Maher
There are many reasons for not saying "Religion = Atheist" or "Religion = None (atheist)" in Wikipedia infoboxes. They include:
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It violates the principle of least astonishment.
In many cases, it technically correct, but incomplete to the point of being misleading.
In my opinion, "Religion = None" is the best choice for representing the data accurately and without bias. I also have no objection to removing the religion entry entirely. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 11:09, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
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I'm trying to say that house is a sex fiend but I can;t find the proper language for it. He's addicted to porn. He is always oogling beautiful women. He sees hookers. He flirted with an underage patient. He put Carmen Elektra in a story because she is hot. IT'S A CHARACTERISTIC... just like the vicoden addiction. it's not original research. It's all in the show. Somebody help put it in the right language because people ( who either apparentl;y don;t want this article to be thorough or they have no eye for subtext) keep removing it.-- Dr who1975 05:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- Series creator David Shore has said that House's character is partly inspired by Sherlock Holmes. The name "House" is a play on "Holmes" (with English pronunciation, a homophone for "homes"). [1] [2] -- Dr who1975 03:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Why was the Sherlock Holmes Connection section removed?
70.75.46.80 ( talk) 13:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC) Their are other hints, like Houses Secret Santa gift... Which got deleted from the page when I noted it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.75.46.80 ( talk) 13:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
In the latest episode "Joy to the World" Wilson tells a story to Taub and Kutner about Irene Adler being "the one that got away". He then tells them he is kidding but I think the story and the fact that it is about an Irene Adler is definately a Holmes parallel that should be added. 98.112.54.21 ( talk) 08:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)HJ
The article states that Holmes is addicted to opium, but in the original stories it is cocaine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.1.19 ( talk) 05:45, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Should something be added to this section to discuss the fact that House, like Holmes in "The Final Problem", fakes his death (in the series finale) only to reappear to Wilson after his own funeral (as Holmes did to Watson in "The Adventure of The Adventure of the Empty House"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.204.85.218 ( talk) 08:18, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Katie Jacobs says the gay references to House and Wilson are intentional. Should I add it to the article? See [3] in which she says "What I love is that the audience feels, and I feel, that there’s potential for House and Cameron. I think there’s potential for House and Cuddy. There have been a lot of gay references to House and Wilson. [laughs] And I think we’re going to play with all of that." mirageinred 13:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I think its worth a mention as long as its objective. BethEnd 05:25, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
On this edit, I meant to say that although there is a "gay subtext," House's "I love you" to Wilson could have been said in a different context. mirageinred 15:59, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm not really a huge fan of the show but in many of the episodes that I have seen, House is portrayed as an outspoken atheist. His beliefs are even the premise for a few episodes. Should this be added to the article? 72.79.98.201 01:44, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Hey fellas, been a while since I looked at this discussion, I won't repeat my thoughts here you can look in the archive if your intrested but I would like to bring up what somone else sourced in the previous discussions.
This link: http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2006/12/15/01 has a interview with one of the producers of the show that states him as an atheist. Quote by David Shore: "Atheists, to me, fall in the same category, to some extent, as lawyers, in the sense that people hate them, in general but like their own. They know House. They like House. They don't care he's an atheist – I don't think." Hope this refresher helps. TheSittingDuck ( talk) 02:13, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm watching Season 4, Episode 7, and Wilson claims that House is a practicing Wiccan. I also heard House mention it in a previous episode (but I didn't make a note of it.) However, the belief system of Wicca seems a bit incongruent with House to me. I guess if the producers say that he's an Atheist, then it should stay in the article, but perhaps it should be noted that there is some question about whether or not that is accurate. 87.209.13.176 ( talk) 00:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
He's certainly an atheist, but why does the article say he's a nihilist? I don't see much evidence of that. MazeMaster ( talk) 22:28, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
The problem is, it's inconsistent. This is really to do with there being a number of different writers, each bringing their own interpretation of House to the table. Sure, House readily hurls abuse at any religious adherent, but being irreligious doesn't make you an atheist. Also, look at this quote:
"You took a chance, you did something great. You were wrong, but it was still great. You should feel great that it was great. You should feel like crap that it was wrong. That’s the difference between him and me. He thinks you do your job, and what will be, will be. I think that what I do and what you do matters. He sleeps better at night. He shouldn’t."
There is no atheistic precedent for that standpoint. If you're an atheist and only believe in the natural world, you're tied to the idea of Laplace's Demon (with a little quantum randomness thrown in if you like), and the other doctor (sorry, I forget his name) has got it right, whatever will be WILL be. So if he is an atheist, he's not a very good one (not a very good nihilist either for that matter). Also, it's worth noting that if he were a real person, he wouldn't make the list of atheists here on wikipedia, having never stated this position himself. I think all we can say for sure is that he doesn't believe in an interventionist god, but that doesn't make him an atheist.-- 86.128.33.162 ( talk) 19:54, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
First to the IP, I want to say that there can be no argument that House is an atheist. Atheism is ipso facto, a belief in no God. House doesn't believe in one, it is obvious from watching the show, and sources agree. There is nothing further that can be explicitly worked out about a person if you know they are an atheist. Atheists can take meaning from life, and they can't. It is up to the individual atheist.
"if one takes a materialist standpoint (as any rational atheist would have to)" An immaterialist standpoint is completely compatable with a belief in no God.
"Given enough knowledge of the system, a third party could hypothetically predict how a person will react in any given situation." Only if determinism holds. Determinism doesn't hold in most interpretations of Quantum Mechanics, although there are some interpretations that keep determinism (as someone about to study Physics at uni from October, I hope determinism does stick around!).
"So whatever will be will be, and ultimately nothing we do matters, and for House to suggest otherwise is illogical." It might be your personal view that House's beliefs are illogical, but since the sources say otherwise, that would be original research on your part.
To Methulah:
"Nietzsche was by no means a nihilist" Well yes it's true that Nietzsche is a lot more complicated than just "Nietzsche is a nihilist", but he is very much intimately linked to nihilism, and certainly modern nihilism is based on a lot of his views.
"House does indeed find meaning in "solving the puzzle." But no-one has ever suggested that House gets meaning from solving the puzzle, only that he likes solving them. Liking something and getting meaning from something are no the same thing. In fact, his liking is pretty damn strong i.e. kind of like an addiction of his. This does not disqualify him from being a nihilist.
"As for atheism, I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of atheists would believe in free will." This is quite an interesting situation: we have Methulah here saying that atheists are mostly believers in free will, and the IP saying that atheists are determinists. The only way you can both be right is if we say that Atheism = Compatibilism. But this is not the case. The vast majority of people see determinism and free will as mutually exclusive, and of those that do, I would say that most atheists (but certainly not all) are determinists. I really can't see most atheists believing in free will as you conjecture. Some will, but not all, so the IP is slightly closer to the truth with that one imo.
Incidentally, I just found a source for his nihilism which is what I wanted, so I shall add that, but would like to find specific bits of episodes that mention/suggest it as well, though I haven't got time at the moment, but if anyone can find any quotes from episodes that would be great! Deamon138 ( talk) 17:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, enough already. This discussion has gone on for far too long. Here's a simple compromise. We change, "He is an atheist and a nihilist," to "He is seen as an atheist and nihilist." Regardless of the exact metaphysics of atheism and nihilism and House's worldview and what-not, it is clear that the popular perception of House is as an atheist and a nihilist, a fact that we can cite using the the Entertainment Weekly article that we cite. Can we please bring this discussion to an end now? -- Hnsampat ( talk) 23:35, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
No, I'll have the last word here, and it'll be this: congratulations Dr. Deamon138 and Dr. 86.128.33.162, your doctoral dissertation on the subject of atheism, nihilism, and House, M.D. has been accepted. :) -- Hnsampat ( talk) 02:04, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
"I don't see how any thinking atheist can believe in the supernatural, yet deny the possibility of any sort of god."
But House doesn't believe in the supernatural. —Preceding
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Season 6, May 17, 2010, "Help Me", House states, "I don't believe in God." Atheist: Person who does not believe in God/s. I guess the case is closed on this one. If this long talk page discussion has proven anything it's that whether dealing with fictional or real-life examples, when you look for divine inspiration, you're bound to find it; even if none exists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexanderCahan ( talk • contribs) 02:30, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Couple of points. First, just like it's possible to believe in a religion but not live perfectly by its rules, it is also possible to be an athiest but pray when in a dangerous situation or even have one or two moments where you raise your hands up to god. There's nothing more annoying than religious people who think everyone is secretly religious. It doesn't mean you believe in god -- it only means you have one or two moments where you don't live perfectly to your own standards, and if it happens to religious people it happens to atheists too. There is nothing "apparent" about House's atheism and apparent is a weasel word and should be removed. Second, Season 7 Episode 8 Small Sacrifices closes the book on whether House believes in Christianity in any form. Even if you think he's agnostic, you cannot reconcile the episode with others. Saying that House is "secretly expressing and extolling virtues and traditions of various religions, particularly Christianity" is clear original research. Even if you can source principles of Christianity which House professes to or believes in, there is nothing "particular" about many of the beliefs of Christianity -- they are not special and shared by many religions. For example even Muslims have a version of the ten commandments and House reads the Koran. However, nobody would ever think of saying House "secretly expresses the traditions of Islam." So at the very least the weasel words "apparent" and "particular" should be removed, and perhaps the reference to Christianity entirely. 206.248.158.190 ( talk) 04:41, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Just to add to this discussion and bring it to an ultimate close: House outright states "I'm an Atheist" in season 7 episode 9, aired January 17th. 86.28.150.115 ( talk) 11:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Is there a specific quote that backs this up? Most of the second season seems to suggest she left him, after being pushed away by his (unspoken?) resentment that she went behind his back while he was in a coma. Vice versa, isn`t there a quote somewhere that specifically says she left him? Calling all micro-fans here... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.52.171.29 ( talk) 10:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Wilson mentions having to take care of House after she left, implying that she took off on him, not the other way around BethEnd 14:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Also Mark Warner says in the last ep Season 1 (to Stacy): "You left him and he just had a limp!" I assume her husband would know the story of who left who. —Preceding
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I like the idea so much that if it is an opinion, I don't realize it, but I see House's meeting with the buraku doctor as the defining moment of his life.
"They hated him. But they listened to him. Because he was right."
He must have realized at that moment that if he followed in that doctor's footsteps, he'd have unbelievable power. No one would deny him anything as long as he was right. And if his father was as abusive as he claimed, he would find that kind of power irresistible. That's why he was just the same before the infarction, because he could be. His leg and the pills are just excuses that others make for his behavior. He's a Randian "aristocrat of talent", and he milks it for all it's worth.
And, though I admit it makes me a jerk, I'd be House if I could. I've been abused, and I'd love to share the wealth while living as I wished. User:Kalaong 23:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
In tonight's (November 27, 2007) Episode, he mentions getting an A on the MCAS, which is a standardized test in Massachusettes. This could be a joke, but it could also be a refrence as to where he spent his early childhood. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.247.23.58 ( talk) 02:27, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
"Oma" is also german for Grannie. So do we really know if he has dutch ancestors? —Preceding
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Based on what I know about House, I would guess that he left her, but I don't know for sure. Does anybody have a source? mirageinred 00:30, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
After a thorough review of this article, I feel that its promotion to Good Article status is acceptable for the following reasons: 1. Prose is quite engaging and lucid 2. Substantial reliable sources (although some sources should be amended such that they don't reference episode descriptions on Wikipedia. 3. Article is quite stable with no visible edit warring 4. No Original research that I can see Wisdom89 ( talk) 08:31, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Please stop removing this statement "Dr. James Wilson and Dr. John Watson have the same initials, and the same honorifics" from to article.
Your edit comment was: "Wikipedia is not based on truth, but WP:V. The article is already chock full of OR - we don't need more..find a source."
If you insisted on a source for ever statement that was obviously true (and included all those with even less certainty) in Wikipedia, then the dictionary would have to be mostly deleted.
You referred me to WP:V. I point out to you what it says at the top of that page: "This page in a nutshell: Material challenged or likely to be challenged, and all quotations, must be attributed to a reliable, published source."
The article refers to the importance of citing "surprising or apparently important claims that are not widely known". I don't need a source for such a basic statement of fact (which is not OR), and as a basic fact, it is immediately "know:" to the reader. A basic relevant statement of fact is not OR, and is not something that is likely to be "challenged". -- David Broadfoot ( talk) 15:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I think the statement should be removed, because I do believe it is OR. Yes, Watson and Wilson have the same initials but adding the sentence makes it seem as the same initials were an intentional effect by the writers to emphasize the similarity. The paragraph about parallels to Sherlock Holmes is not to list every similarities Wilson or House share with Holmes or Watson that the viewers may see; it is about listing how the parallels influenced House/Wilson as a character. mirageinred ( talk) 21:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
The fact that they both do almost the exact same job is not just a similarity, it is definitely a direct paralell: the exact nature of their jobs is to solve complex cases that others in their fields cannot. I agree that my source for House's job was the wrong choice, but considering it is an established fact of the show it surprisingly isn't really specifically cited anywhere. I think that is more of a parallel than the fact that both of them are drug users, although that is still perfectly acceptable. ( Independentwoman ( talk) 04:50, 6 January 2008 (UTC))
It would be interesting with a section about how far from reality the cases in the series go. I guess at least some of the cases to some extent are based on medical facts, but how much is pure fiction? Mlewan ( talk) 21:12, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
About 19 of the 43 references in the article are internal wikipedia sources. If most of those 19 references would be siwtched to real ones, than this article has a good potential to become a featured article. Nergaal ( talk) 07:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Why isn't there ANY discussion about Cameron? Their "relationship" lasted almost 3 seasons. Nergaal ( talk) 07:44, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
House has several interesting customs/nervous ticks that should be presented in this article. Some examples: playing the big ball and the cane; with PSP; etc. Nergaal ( talk) 07:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed the recently added images as they are out of place and really didn't add anything to the article. They simply do not convey any more information than the text already does. Wisdom89 ( T / C) 07:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I am thinking af adding some more little bits of information to give a more detailed reason for why their is a similarity, more specifically, I am planning to research subtle signs that show up in only one episode of the show -- Ilikemangos ( talk) 07:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
There are several episodes (e.g. Daddy's Boy episode 5 season 2, and The Socratic Method season 1 episode 6) where others suggest that Gregory House enjoys reuben sandwiches. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.36.204 ( talk) 17:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
House holds his cane on the same side as his leg injury - which as any doctor could tell you, is the wrong way to use a cane (it should be in the opposite hand). Is this a relevant point to put in the article (maybe under a plot hole/error section)? 132.203.169.198 ( talk) 00:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
No, a person can hold a cane however they want. Just because you are 'meant' to hold a cane one way doesn't mean you have to. I've seen, heard of etc. plenty of people who hold their cane in the 'wrong' hand, and most of them would probably punch in the face you for saying this. People do whatever feels comfortable, we are all individuals and don't have to live how the medical books tell us to. If you have to use a cane for the rest of your life you will use it however you like to, not the way the physics teacher tells you is most efficient. 86.149.31.67 ( talk) 19:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Just FYI everyone, there is reference to this in the show. In the episode "Whac-a-Mole", House goes to see a physical therapist, and she says "Have you considered using your cane on the correct side." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stuck in sanity ( talk • contribs) 21:32, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I would have to perceive that perhaps House's knowledge of his "misuse" of his cane adds to his character as not wanting to follow custom, and such, and unwilling to do what other tell him to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fleapwns ( talk • contribs) 22:50, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
given his symptoms, does he suffer from complex regional pain syndrome or is it neuropathic? or something completely different. I'm not a doc, so maybe someone has an answer given the symptoms he suffers from. 67.184.99.68 ( talk) 01:22, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
or neither of those? just trying to contribute to this article and make it more detailed. 67.184.99.68 ( talk) 03:23, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
The article claims that House has a level of understanding of a great many specifically mentioned languages. However, the only three languages that the references provided seem to indicate to me that he understands are Spanish, Portuguese and Hindi. Can somebody explain where it is established that he understands the other languages mentioned? -- Susurrus ( talk) 03:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
An IP has added Yiddish as a language that House speaks. Is this right? I don't remember it. Does he actually speak it, or is this just based on pop culture references that House makes to people (in this case his Jewish friend Wilson, or that Jewish couple in an episode of season 4)? In fact what's the difference between Yiddish and Hebrew anyways? At the moment the article says he speaks "Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese, Hebrew, Latin, Yiddish and Hindi." Hindi: yes I agree he is fluent as judged when he read Von whatchamacallits article in the Indian journal (season 2). Mandarin yes also. Although House says something in effect that he can only speak a couple fo phrases to the Chinese girl, those phrases are kinda hard I imagine so he must be pretty adept at it. I don't particularly remember him speaking Spanish or Portuguese, but that could be true. But Japanese? When? And Latin? When? Surely not all the medical names for things in Latin, that doesn't count, they are now part of the English vernacular, even if they are technical terms. However, whether we need all these languages or not, it is clear that House is adept at picking up languages quickly, and I'm sure there's a word for that kind of thing. If anyone thinks of such a word that fits that definition, maybe it needs adding to the article? Deamon138 ( talk) 19:37, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
If no editors can find reliable second party publications/sources that establish House's level of foreign language comprehension, I am going to remove the information. Watching DVDs of the show is insufficient. Wisdom89 ( T / C) 01:12, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Okay, here are my thoughts now:
By the way, Washout89 (or anyone else) do we really need to have a secondary source for this, and not use the episode? It seems a lot of cites (although I haven't checked so I'm not certain) on here are for specific episodes. What policy/guideline is it that says we can't do this? I'm just confused, because we can use the written word for a cite (eg a book) , but can't use video? Okay, here's an example: in the last episode so far, Amber died. Would we have needed a cite for that to specifically come from a second source, or if there was none (thankfully there is), could we have used that episode as a source? Or is there no cutoff point? I hope you can help me understand this. Deamon138 ( talk) 21:27, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
A definite no on the Hebrew and the Yiddish (for the record, Yiddish is a dialect of German, pretty much the only Hebrew it contains are loan words.) House only knows common phrases that are widely known among non-speakers (at least among Americans that watch a wide variety of shows, such as The Daily Show.) As an analogy; lots of Americans can tell you what Salaam Aleikum means, but very few can actually claim any significant "level of understanding" of Arabic; they don't even know basic Arabic grammar. Smw543 ( talk) 09:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
I notice that the "polyglotism" claims are still in the article although they are ill supported. All doctors
know a set of standard words and phrases in Latin and very few could translate Virgil, for instance. 1Z ( talk) 00:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
In the Season 1 Episode "The Socratic Method" (1-06) House goes through a birthday. The airing date is December 21st, 2004. The previous episode two weeks prior "Maternity" (1-04, Air Date Dec.7 2004) House gives the date of an autopsy performed during the episode as taking place on December 2nd, 2004, 5 days earlier than the air date. This can be explained by the shooting date or just the final cut date of the episode.
This should put House's birthday at anywhere around December 16th to December 21st. I think it's simplistic to assume Laurie and House share the same birthday, let alone age. The social security card could be a props mix-up or just a mash-up of Laurie's own data on a fake card, but being British he doesn't have a SS card.
Thoughts? I just don't think the referencing for the Birthday is legit
And now I'm going to go hurt myself for posting about the biographical data of a fictional character. —Preceding
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In "No Meaning" the close-up on House's hospital bracelet shows his DOB as June ?? (too lazy to look it up now) and Shore says in the commented DVD version of this episode that they decided to use Laurie's DOB for this. They simply ignored that an earlier episode had it in December. —Preceding
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In the episode "The Jerk" (penultimate one of season 3), he is shown to be a good (at least) chess player. Any ideas where this should be added on the page? Deamon138 ( talk) 21:00, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
I was vandalizing the Nephrology article to include Gregory House, and I noticed an uncanny similarity in the spelling of Gregory House and Georg Haas, a notable nephrologist who did something involving hemodialysis. Possible relation? 74.56.236.39 ( talk) 03:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
I noticed this sentence, "However, the chronic pain in his leg comes back and House starts taking Vicodin once again." which is the first mention of Vicodin in the article. It is not until later on that it is mentioned that he has an addiction to Vicodin. Either this first instance of Vicodin needs to be edited, or we need to mention Vicodin even earlier than this. Any suggestions? Deamon138 ( talk) 01:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
The article say he received his undergrad degree from Hopkins. Later it mentions that while doing his undergrad he was caught cheating and was expelled, finishing his studies from Michigan. So which one is it? Wikihonduras ( talk) 17:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
The cheerleading picture in question is actually fake, as House admits to being decent in Photo editing, and thus creating the picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fleapwns ( talk • contribs) 22:48, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
In tonight's episode, Wilson makes reference to a prior case, a woman named Irene Adler, with whom House was obsessed. It's a fairly clear nod to Holmes, who was also obsessed with a woman named Irene Adler. Anyone know if it's been confirmed by anyone involved with the show? -- BRPierce ( talk) 04:26, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
The intro contained the statement "House is also often portrayed as lacking empathy and sympathy for his patients," which is untrue (actually only half true.) Although he rarely sympathizes with his patients (making the rare exceptions all the more significant), he nearly always is able to empathize, using the most common definition of empathy as being able to understand a persons thoughts and feelings. While this usually results in sympathy, House is clearly an exception. House, in fact, constantly demonstrates a capacity for empathy, such as in when he breaks down the motives behind peoples actions. A great example of this is in "Half-Wit," the episode where everyone thinks he has brain cancer: as each member of his team comes into his office to comfort him, he "cheapens it" by explaining why they came (culminating in Chase being there because it was "[his] turn.") Really, though, you could find ten to twenty examples in any given episode.
Basically, sympathy and empathy are like two sides of the same coin; sympathy is the emotional side, and empathy is the intellectual side. House is hardly lacking in intellectual capacity but rarely exhibits (sympathetic) emotions. It seems there was an error at the mint when printing House's coin. Smw543 ( talk) 09:59, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
I think this would be a good example of what you mean Smw543: In the episode The Socratic Method, House shows a rare display compassion when he lies to the kid about the Mother turning the kid in to Child Services. This spares the kid the knowledge that his Mother did so. Usually, House would have told the kid the truth, as he usually only lies to get a diagnosis and has little or no care for the feelings of others. As is typical for House, he also hides his act under a pretense of wanting to see no more of the child. This wouldn't be possible without empathy and sympathy. 66.41.44.102 ( talk) 09:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
What did House get a degree in? This is sort of important - the other characters in the show have specialties - plastic surgeon, immunologist, neurologist, etc. What kind of doctor was House originally? I don't see this in the article - if the show has ever mentioned his original field, it should be added to the article. Some guy ( talk) 23:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
There is an anon who is quite insistent that House be listed as a fictional murderer because of the events and dialogue from the episode " Informed Consent". I do not think that we should for a couple of reasons:
Those are my opinions. Let the discussion begin. kingdom2 ( talk) 03:38, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Where was it ever stated that House is Dutch-American? 189.4.250.18 ( talk) 01:05, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Im wandering if there is any symbolism in the name House —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.182.30.6 ( talk) 01:12, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
In the first season, there are 2 or 3 episodes where Dr. House has a black Nintendo Game Boy Advance, and he's playing one of the Metroid games. In episode 14, a Nintendo DS is possibly seen, although it might be a PDA or something. In episode 15 it's revealed to be a DS for sure, and he's playing Metroid: Prime Hunters on it. So... 1) Does Nintendo have an advertising contract with Fox? 2) Can it be inferred that Dr. House is a fan of the series, or possibly inferred that there's a reason for that (e.g. strong female lead, or pure escapism)? NathanJ1979 ( talk) 08:32, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, in the paragraph "Character history" it states "The season finale shows this to have been a hallucination; House is still on pain medication and it is revealed that he has been taking Oxycodone". However, he was using hydrocodone, which is vicodine. One can see the "o" in front of "codone" in the close-ups of the prescription bottle. Bye —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.55.69.138 ( talk) 01:05, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Gee, thanks for the spoiler on the dad DNA test. The rest of the world may not have seen the latest season. Is it really necessary to add these kinds of details immediately, when they constitute spoilers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.52.171.186 ( talk) 11:49, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
What about his habbit of stealing food,money for food or not paying for it in the Princeton canteen or how it is called in the hospital.Almost in half of episodes he does it and everybody knows.It shows that he is treated as special in the hospital(he also never wears medical coat).I think it should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.124.0.7 ( talk) 04:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
The article mentions that in the episode "Lines in the sand", Wilson suggests to Cuddy that House may have Aspergers, and then says to House that he does not believe this. I think it should make clear that his choice of words indicates that House put him up to this. Gazok ( talk) 05:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't Wikipedia section http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes#Use_of_drugs be better than reference #7? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.159.142.158 ( talk) 00:50, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
"House then attended the University of Michigan for the remainder of his study and met Lisa Cuddy (Lisa Edelstein), his future boss,[23] with whom he shared a one night stand.[24]" I think that's wrong, nothing like this happens in that episode that is quoted in [23] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.131.242.172 ( talk) 08:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
House says something like "because one night I gave you everything" to which Cuddy replies "This is exactly why I never mentioned our one date a couple of years back" 85.181.150.58 ( talk) 20:56, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
In episode "Known Unknowns", House tells Cuddy that he never got back in touch with her after the one-night stand, see where things were going to go from there. "That was the morning I got the call from the dean, and I was expelled from my first med school, and there didn't seem any point." That would have happened at the University of Michigan, which is where Cuddy attended. If he got kicked out of Michigan, and kicked out of Johns Hopkins (the episode "Distractions"), where did he get his degree? 72.72.131.169 ( talk) 09:50, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
By the way I watch this series... Gregory House doesn't act as Gemini [4]. Really he acts as Sagittarius [5]. His fanatic addiction... Always runs, can't sit at one place. Always thinks.
So may be we can discuss it...
I Just apologize... Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pabraxas ( talk • contribs) 06:25, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Должен признатса очень очень класный сериал.Я целую неделью не выходил из дома. Будетли 5-сезон? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.238.106.117 ( talk) 13:59, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
The article says that "More famous actors such as Denis Leary, Rob Morrow and Patrick Dempsey were also considered". Surely Hugh Laurie was a well known actor, even for insular Americans. I have never heard of Denis Leary or Rob Morrow. 124.197.15.138 ( talk) 07:38, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Nobody feels like commenting on the heavy promotion of the use of Vicodin for pain relief ? The Vicodin contains an opioid (hydrocodone) that generates a large number of adverse effects among which dependence. Nevertheless, "Due to its opiate-related side effects such as euphoria, sedation and somnolence, hydrocodone is now one of the most common recreational prescription drugs in America ...... Recreational hydrocodone use is particularly prevalent among teenagers and young adults because of the drug's widespread availability" (Citation from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocodone)
In addition it is easily available on the internet at costs that, when accounting for contained compounds, go largely beyond a reasonable production cost.
As many other trademarks are available on the market (Hydrococet, Symtan, Anexsia, Dicodid, Hycodan (or generically Hydromet), Hycomine, Hycet, Lorcet, Lortab, Norco, Novahistex, Hydrovo, Duodin, Kolikodol, Orthoxycol, Mercodinone, Synkonin, Norgan, and Hydrokon) but only Vicodin is (heavily) cited in the Dr. House series, a financial deal or sponsorship among the Dr. House series producers and the Abbott Laboratories can be suspected.
This is borderline with both medical and cinema ethics, and merit discussion or at least a citation in a "controversy" headline.
Originbob ( talk) 23:43, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
If Gregory House were to be tested for his personality type under the Meyers-Briggs system, he would be INTJ: (Introverted-Intuitive-Thinking-Judging) he's arrogant, lacks social graces, a problem solver, and has to have everything make sense. As Wilson put it, not a messiah complex but a "Rubrik" complex.
I will add this if no one disagrees. Hvacrmaster ( talk) 19:16, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
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House does not display Ni as a dominant, Te as an auxiliary, Fi as his tertiary, or Se as his inferior cognitive functions. He displays a massive amount of introverted thinking and extraverted intuition, which would likely make him an INTP. This kind of discussion is better left in type forums. — Preceding
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Article talk pages are for discussing improvement to their associated articles, not for general discussion of the subject. Without reliable sources discussing what would happen if we gave the test to this fictional character, there is nothing to discuss here. - SummerPhD ( talk) 13:07, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I removed "Lisa Cuddy" as being listed as "Girlfriend" under "Significant Other"; while the two characters did kiss at the end of episode 22 of the sixth season, episode 132 overall, it is not stated in the episode that they are in a relationship. People can kiss without being in a relationship. Whether the kiss is an implication that the two are in a relationship is irrelevant. This is an encyclopedia; it is based on facts, not presumptions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.57.67.148 ( talk) 11:02, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Actually, it's an open-sourced encyclopedic information site. Also, it is not based directly on fact. It is based on sources. 98.215.120.42 ( talk) 00:19, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
If anyone wants to use it: http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/television/1165208,CST-FTR-house16.article
Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ( Otters want attention) 17:59, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
It says in the article: "He then attended the University of Michigan in order to finish his medical study. In Michigan, while working at the bookstore, he met his future boss and love interest – Lisa Cuddy" except in season 6x06 the episode Known Unknown, he says he was going to call Cuddy and come see her but that was the day he got kicked out of his first medschool so it seemed like there wasn't any point. Which directly contradicts the article in cannon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.78.51.0 ( talk) 07:33, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
In the article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_House_characters#John_and_Blythe_House discussing the funeral of House's father (#504 Birthmarks), it is noted in the text: "His father John is a retired Marine Corps aviator" and "pointing out his father's lack of compassion by referring to the fact that no officers of inferior rank (John House was a Colonel) attended his funeral."
The photo which accompanies the article is of a Marine Gunnery Sergeant (E-6), with 2 'lifer' stripes (service stripes, each representing 4 years of service. An officer does not wear service stripes; 'retiree' usually refers to 20+ wyears of service (and correspondingly, 5 or more service stripes); . Officers wear their rank on the collar or shoulder straps of the uniform. As a retired Marine Corps aviator, the Aviation Insignia would be worn over the row of ribbons on the left breast of the uniform, (and proudly, I might add.)
I guess I'm confused that these inconsistencies exist. I do not know the true rank of House's father, and consequently cannot 'fix' the text of the article. If anyone is aware of the correct rank/photo, could they correct this? Thanx! (p.s. no actual research occurred in the construction of this essay; I am a former Marine (Sgt, USMC) and this information is common knowledge to any member of the Corps.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.207.225.55 ( talk) 03:22, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Having just seen "Alone" (& still laughing ;p ), where Wilson kidnaps the Flying Vee guitar, can we add the model & year? (The soundtrack "bleeps" the year by closing a door... Shades of "GAH". 8o ) Hannibal Starling dinner's ready, Clarice 01:22, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
The use of the term antihero is not properly applied to House. An antihero has no heroic qualities -- quite the opposite. The correct term is tragic hero -- a heroic figure with a (character) flaw. It is not correct for an encyclopedia to perpetuate incorrect definitions merely because some blog makes the error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.53.79.39 ( talk) 00:00, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Um, once again, no. An antihero doesn't fit the mold of a standard hero, i.e. being 100% or mostly morally pure. An antiheor can do and have some heroic qualities. The whole point is that he is not your typical hero and while he does do heroic things, he is not your average hero. Stopp adding it, everyone but you sees you're wrong. Stop
Given House's passion for truth, while at the same time he casually lies about anything & everything, has there ever been an examination of the dichotomy? Can we mention it? Nathan R. Jessup call a code 17:36, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
I don't know who keeps changing it, haven't paid attention.. Stacy is houses ex-WIFE, not ex-girlfriend as someone has changed back to at least 3 times thus far. If you haven't picked up they were married thus far you shouldn't be editing his wiki page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djphrost ( talk • contribs) 05:39, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
[6]Cameron: You ever been married?
House: [quietly] Well now, let’s not ruin a lovely night out by getting personal.
[They walk along in silence for a few seconds]
House: I lived with someone for a while. [Looks down at his empty cotton candy cone, then at Cameron’s] You gonna finish that?
Late to the party, but should it be noticied that House couldn't possibly be at US military base on Egypt as a kid, as mentioned on the series, given his age? Egypt was a strong USSR ally until at least 1973, and wasn't until Camp David that they started to have serious military relations with US, AFAIK. Minor detail, of course, maybe it's not even worthwhile, just mentioning because I am a huge fan of the series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.209.62.165 ( talk) 02:56, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
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