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In the interest of promoting uniformity, I find it would be beneficial to turn the list of Green Line stations around so as to list them from south to north. This would harmonize with the existing sections for the Blue Line, Orange Line, and Red Line, which all list their stations south-to-north and west-to-east.
The Yellow Line is also listed north-to-south, and I am also separately proposing changing that line's station list around to list south-to-north.
I'd like to see an article or sub-article on the Green Line Shortcut. I had always heard of it, but living in NoVA and staying mainly on the Orange Line, I never rode it. I'd like to know more about it... -- Phil Kirlin 22:09, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Wehwalt ( talk) 13:11, 11 June 2011 (UTC) I will be doing this review. I've given it a glance and will settle down to read it later in the day. Initial thoughts.
This should start you. A good effort but a fair number of prose glitches. I'm probably going a bit above GA standards, hope you don't mind. I see nothing unfixable.
with this one:Plans for rapid transit prior to the creation of WMATA in February 1967 focused on the needs of commuters while neglecting some of the District's less affluent neighborhoods. [1] However, by late 1966, some plans started to include a line along 7th Street in the District of Columbia. [2] The new line was included in WMATA's master plan for its proposed then-101-mile system in 1968. [3] At that time, a Green Line was planned to pass through some of the area's poorest and most transit-dependent neighborhoods and provide them with subway service. [3] The southern part of the Green Line was originally to pass over the 11th Street Bridges to the intersection of Good Hope Road SE and Martin Luther King, Jr. Avenue SE, [4] follow Martin Luther King, Jr. Avenue SE to Suitland Parkway, down Suitland Parkway to Branch Avenue SE, and down Branch Avenue to a terminus at the intersection of Branch Avenue and the Capital Beltway. [3] [5] [6] Public hearings on whether to build a Green Line and the route it should take were completed in 1973, [7] and the Green Line was originally scheduled to open in 1976. [8] The original 1969 plan called for a line under 13th Street NW with just two stations. However, in 1970, the District of Columbia Council agreed to pay an additional $3 million to add a third station and reroute the Green Line under U Street, and then 14th Street NW. [9] Instead of opening in 1976, the first Green Line stations opened in 1991. [10]
If this language is acceptable to you and you don't see any copyright problems with the change, please approve it.Plans for rapid transit prior to the creation of WMATA in February 1967 focused on the needs of commuters while neglecting some of the District's less affluent neighborhoods.<ref>Schrag at p. 106.</ref> However, by late 1966, some plans started to include a line along 7th Street in the District of Columbia.<ref>Schrag at p. 106.</ref> The new line was included in WMATA's master plan for its proposed then-101-mile system in 1968.<ref name="BurgessHaltStart">Burgess, John. "Metro to Halt Start of Leg To Rosecroft." ''Washington Post.'' March 18, 1982.</ref> At that time, a Green Line was planned to pass through some of the area's poorest and most transit-dependent neighborhoods and provide them with subway service.<ref name="BurgessHaltStart" /> Riots following the death of [[Martin Luther King]] in 1968 destroyed much of the commercial district around 14th and U Streets and planners hoped that adding a subway stop in that area would stimulate redevelopment.<ref>Schrag at p. 211-12.</ref> The original 1969 plan called for a line under 13th Street NW with just two stations. However, in 1970, the District of Columbia Council agreed to pay an additional $3 million to add a third station and reroute the Green Line under U Street, and then 14th Street NW.<ref>Schrag at p. 213.</ref> Instead of opening in 1976, the first Green Line stations opened in 1991.<ref>Schrag at p. 213.</ref> The southern part of the Green Line was originally to pass over the [[11th Street Bridges]] to the intersection of Good Hope Road SE and Martin Luther King, Jr. Avenue SE,<ref name="DecadesFrustrating">Sisler, Peter F. "Decades of Frustrating Debate Kept Green Line Sidetracked." ''Washington Times.'' December 27, 1991.</ref> follow Martin Luther King, Jr. Avenue SE to [[Suitland Parkway]], down Suitland Parkway to Branch Avenue SE, and down Branch Avenue to a terminus at the intersection of Branch Avenue and the [[Interstate 495 (Capital Beltway)|Capital Beltway]].<ref name="BurgessHaltStart" /><ref name="Feaver">Feaver, Douglas. "Metro Choices Detailed." ''Washington Post.'' October 18, 1977.</ref><ref name="Vesey">Vesey, Tom. "Green Line War Heats Up Again." ''Washington Post.'' June 23, 1982.</ref> Public hearings on whether to build a Green Line and the route it should take were completed in 1973,<ref name="WilliamsThreaten" /> and the Green Line was originally scheduled to open in 1976.<ref name="Branching">"Metrorail, Now 7, Branching Out." ''[[The New York Times|New York Times]].'' December 17, 1983.</ref>
Currently, we have three stations — Georgia Avenue – Petworth, Columbia Heights, and U Street / Cardozo — on the Mid-City segment that is further west on 14th Street. The original plan would have only two stations and they would be on 13th Street. This should be made more clear. As late as 1981, DC was still fighting internally over the route alignment (Schrag at 215.) Racepacket ( talk) 15:23, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
More later.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 00:26, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Resuming:
I will try to find a cite to the 4th Circuit opinion. Racepacket ( talk) 15:23, 16 June 2011 (UTC)The court ruled in February 1981 that the 1977 hearings were invalid, as insufficient public notice had been given, and issued an injunction halting construction below the Waterfront station. New hearings were held in June 1982, but the court again ruled against WMATA in October 1983. A third set of hearings in July 1984 selected the present route, allowing constructon to commence. Service to the station began on December 28, 1991, with the extension of the Green Line to Anacostia.
And that's it! I see you busily at work. Drop me a note on my talk when you're done, please.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 20:58, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
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WilliamsThreaten
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).This little bit bothered me enough to try and find something online that can back the word "the" being used before the acronym WMATA.
I came across this link quickly that noted as follows:
Thus being, isn't "the WMATA" correct?
I welcome anothers spin on this. I was converted regarding the "composed/comprised" argument way back...with proper references why not to.
-- Allamericanbear ( talk) 17:37, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
-- Allamericanbear ( talk) 19:25, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Personally, I would say, absent a video or source of a WMATA official saying "W-ma-tah", we should go with the avenue of least confusion, which in this case appears to be "the WMATA". They might do it that way, but we can only report on verifiable things, and it does appear that omitting "the" without a sourced reason is confusing to readers. -- Golbez ( talk) 15:25, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
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I'm curious if others think having a dedicated crime section on this page is warranted, given that none of the other WMATA line pages have a similar section. There have been acts of violence throughout the system, so it would seem better to have this information on the Metro page itself, rather than called out here. Shouldn't there be some consistency among the pages for the different lines? As noted by the "needs updating" tag, the data also is stale, and the section frequently mentions stations served by lines other than the Green, and in some cases, are not Green line stations at all.-- RCSpengler ( talk) 03:30, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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Green Line (Washington Metro) → Green line (Washington Metro) – Lowercase the word “line” per WP:NCCAPS. The word “line is a generic descriptor. 2600:1700:1960:F100:A882:B52C:C11A:62E9 ( talk) 02:14, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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In the interest of promoting uniformity, I find it would be beneficial to turn the list of Green Line stations around so as to list them from south to north. This would harmonize with the existing sections for the Blue Line, Orange Line, and Red Line, which all list their stations south-to-north and west-to-east.
The Yellow Line is also listed north-to-south, and I am also separately proposing changing that line's station list around to list south-to-north.
I'd like to see an article or sub-article on the Green Line Shortcut. I had always heard of it, but living in NoVA and staying mainly on the Orange Line, I never rode it. I'd like to know more about it... -- Phil Kirlin 22:09, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Wehwalt ( talk) 13:11, 11 June 2011 (UTC) I will be doing this review. I've given it a glance and will settle down to read it later in the day. Initial thoughts.
This should start you. A good effort but a fair number of prose glitches. I'm probably going a bit above GA standards, hope you don't mind. I see nothing unfixable.
with this one:Plans for rapid transit prior to the creation of WMATA in February 1967 focused on the needs of commuters while neglecting some of the District's less affluent neighborhoods. [1] However, by late 1966, some plans started to include a line along 7th Street in the District of Columbia. [2] The new line was included in WMATA's master plan for its proposed then-101-mile system in 1968. [3] At that time, a Green Line was planned to pass through some of the area's poorest and most transit-dependent neighborhoods and provide them with subway service. [3] The southern part of the Green Line was originally to pass over the 11th Street Bridges to the intersection of Good Hope Road SE and Martin Luther King, Jr. Avenue SE, [4] follow Martin Luther King, Jr. Avenue SE to Suitland Parkway, down Suitland Parkway to Branch Avenue SE, and down Branch Avenue to a terminus at the intersection of Branch Avenue and the Capital Beltway. [3] [5] [6] Public hearings on whether to build a Green Line and the route it should take were completed in 1973, [7] and the Green Line was originally scheduled to open in 1976. [8] The original 1969 plan called for a line under 13th Street NW with just two stations. However, in 1970, the District of Columbia Council agreed to pay an additional $3 million to add a third station and reroute the Green Line under U Street, and then 14th Street NW. [9] Instead of opening in 1976, the first Green Line stations opened in 1991. [10]
If this language is acceptable to you and you don't see any copyright problems with the change, please approve it.Plans for rapid transit prior to the creation of WMATA in February 1967 focused on the needs of commuters while neglecting some of the District's less affluent neighborhoods.<ref>Schrag at p. 106.</ref> However, by late 1966, some plans started to include a line along 7th Street in the District of Columbia.<ref>Schrag at p. 106.</ref> The new line was included in WMATA's master plan for its proposed then-101-mile system in 1968.<ref name="BurgessHaltStart">Burgess, John. "Metro to Halt Start of Leg To Rosecroft." ''Washington Post.'' March 18, 1982.</ref> At that time, a Green Line was planned to pass through some of the area's poorest and most transit-dependent neighborhoods and provide them with subway service.<ref name="BurgessHaltStart" /> Riots following the death of [[Martin Luther King]] in 1968 destroyed much of the commercial district around 14th and U Streets and planners hoped that adding a subway stop in that area would stimulate redevelopment.<ref>Schrag at p. 211-12.</ref> The original 1969 plan called for a line under 13th Street NW with just two stations. However, in 1970, the District of Columbia Council agreed to pay an additional $3 million to add a third station and reroute the Green Line under U Street, and then 14th Street NW.<ref>Schrag at p. 213.</ref> Instead of opening in 1976, the first Green Line stations opened in 1991.<ref>Schrag at p. 213.</ref> The southern part of the Green Line was originally to pass over the [[11th Street Bridges]] to the intersection of Good Hope Road SE and Martin Luther King, Jr. Avenue SE,<ref name="DecadesFrustrating">Sisler, Peter F. "Decades of Frustrating Debate Kept Green Line Sidetracked." ''Washington Times.'' December 27, 1991.</ref> follow Martin Luther King, Jr. Avenue SE to [[Suitland Parkway]], down Suitland Parkway to Branch Avenue SE, and down Branch Avenue to a terminus at the intersection of Branch Avenue and the [[Interstate 495 (Capital Beltway)|Capital Beltway]].<ref name="BurgessHaltStart" /><ref name="Feaver">Feaver, Douglas. "Metro Choices Detailed." ''Washington Post.'' October 18, 1977.</ref><ref name="Vesey">Vesey, Tom. "Green Line War Heats Up Again." ''Washington Post.'' June 23, 1982.</ref> Public hearings on whether to build a Green Line and the route it should take were completed in 1973,<ref name="WilliamsThreaten" /> and the Green Line was originally scheduled to open in 1976.<ref name="Branching">"Metrorail, Now 7, Branching Out." ''[[The New York Times|New York Times]].'' December 17, 1983.</ref>
Currently, we have three stations — Georgia Avenue – Petworth, Columbia Heights, and U Street / Cardozo — on the Mid-City segment that is further west on 14th Street. The original plan would have only two stations and they would be on 13th Street. This should be made more clear. As late as 1981, DC was still fighting internally over the route alignment (Schrag at 215.) Racepacket ( talk) 15:23, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
More later.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 00:26, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Resuming:
I will try to find a cite to the 4th Circuit opinion. Racepacket ( talk) 15:23, 16 June 2011 (UTC)The court ruled in February 1981 that the 1977 hearings were invalid, as insufficient public notice had been given, and issued an injunction halting construction below the Waterfront station. New hearings were held in June 1982, but the court again ruled against WMATA in October 1983. A third set of hearings in July 1984 selected the present route, allowing constructon to commence. Service to the station began on December 28, 1991, with the extension of the Green Line to Anacostia.
And that's it! I see you busily at work. Drop me a note on my talk when you're done, please.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 20:58, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
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WilliamsThreaten
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).This little bit bothered me enough to try and find something online that can back the word "the" being used before the acronym WMATA.
I came across this link quickly that noted as follows:
Thus being, isn't "the WMATA" correct?
I welcome anothers spin on this. I was converted regarding the "composed/comprised" argument way back...with proper references why not to.
-- Allamericanbear ( talk) 17:37, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
-- Allamericanbear ( talk) 19:25, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Personally, I would say, absent a video or source of a WMATA official saying "W-ma-tah", we should go with the avenue of least confusion, which in this case appears to be "the WMATA". They might do it that way, but we can only report on verifiable things, and it does appear that omitting "the" without a sourced reason is confusing to readers. -- Golbez ( talk) 15:25, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
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I'm curious if others think having a dedicated crime section on this page is warranted, given that none of the other WMATA line pages have a similar section. There have been acts of violence throughout the system, so it would seem better to have this information on the Metro page itself, rather than called out here. Shouldn't there be some consistency among the pages for the different lines? As noted by the "needs updating" tag, the data also is stale, and the section frequently mentions stations served by lines other than the Green, and in some cases, are not Green line stations at all.-- RCSpengler ( talk) 03:30, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Procedural close. Interested editors should comment in the consolidated discussion at Talk:Red Line (Washington Metro)#Requested move 22 January 2024. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Adumbrativus ( talk) 02:54, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Green Line (Washington Metro) → Green line (Washington Metro) – Lowercase the word “line” per WP:NCCAPS. The word “line is a generic descriptor. 2600:1700:1960:F100:A882:B52C:C11A:62E9 ( talk) 02:14, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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