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An unrelated deleted Wikipedia page doesn't set a precedent. We are talking about a cultural icon recognized by multiple media and news organizations. You have violated
WP:3RR and
Wikipedia:Ownership of content. I recommend you stop the gatekeeping and move on from being a watch dog over such a small page.
Valkyrie Red (
talk) 19:27, 5 August 2022 (UTC)reply
The last time Bagumba edited this article was in June 2021, i wouldn't call that gatekeeping --
FMSky (
talk) 22:21, 5 August 2022 (UTC)reply
sorry, got him confused with you. Same thing applies. You have violated two Wikipedia ordinances. You revert my edit one more time and you get reported. Consider this a final warning.
Valkyrie Red (
talk) 22:20, 6 August 2022 (UTC)reply
The purpose of this page is to disambiguate titles that might fall under the umbrella of "Greatest of All Time", so for example the albums with that acronym as the name, or the program with a near exact name. It is not a catch all for any individual who might be described as such, and disambiguation pages that can be described as descriptors do not list the individuals that would fall under the definition of the term unless it's part of their name in some way. -
Aoidh (
talk) 23:53, 6 August 2022 (UTC)reply
There is nothing indicating that that is the purpose of this page. Nothing. Not a single rule. Until you bring that up for citation you are violating
WP:OWN.
Valkyrie Red (
talk) 00:00, 7 August 2022 (UTC)reply
First, you need to actually read
WP:OWN. Reverting an edit is not evidence of that. Second, I think you should take the time to read
Wikipedia:Disambiguation, which explains the purpose of such pages. In particular,
WP:DABRELATED would apply here. -
Aoidh (
talk) 00:10, 7 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Reverting edits on the basis of overseeing a page to one's subjective specifications =
WP:OWN. Secondly,
WP:DABRELATED gives leeway for entries not verbatim to the policy in place as long as they relate to it ("if the term being disambiguated is actually described in the target article") which numerous secondhand sources will affirm for Jordan.
Valkyrie Red (
talk) 02:35, 7 August 2022 (UTC)reply
I'm done explaining to you the very simple reason why
WP:OWN doesn't apply and
you're not listening anyways, so we'll move past that unfounded accusation. You can't just say "
WP:DABRELATED gives leeway for entries..." when no, it doesn't. Nothing you said is reflected in that guideline in any way. The term Greatest of All Time is not described in any way in the Jordan article. This is not
List of basketball players considered the greatest of all time and is not a catchall for all (or any) individuals who happen to have been described as such, that is not the purpose of a disambiguation page. -
Aoidh (
talk) 02:42, 7 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Can we just lock this page?
This page has suffered multiple abuses of vandalism, should we not just lock this thread?
86.17.57.59 (
talk) 19:12, 18 December 2022 (UTC)reply
Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2023
@
Bolide154:Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a
"change X to Y" format and provide a
reliable source if appropriate.
For reference,
this was your orginal request.—
Bagumba (
talk) 12:42, 5 January 2023 (UTC)reply
This disambiguation page is within the scope of WikiProject Disambiguation, an attempt to structure and organize all
disambiguation pages on Wikipedia. If you wish to help, you can edit the page attached to this talk page, or visit the
project page, where you can join the project or contribute to the
discussion.DisambiguationWikipedia:WikiProject DisambiguationTemplate:WikiProject DisambiguationDisambiguation articles
An unrelated deleted Wikipedia page doesn't set a precedent. We are talking about a cultural icon recognized by multiple media and news organizations. You have violated
WP:3RR and
Wikipedia:Ownership of content. I recommend you stop the gatekeeping and move on from being a watch dog over such a small page.
Valkyrie Red (
talk) 19:27, 5 August 2022 (UTC)reply
The last time Bagumba edited this article was in June 2021, i wouldn't call that gatekeeping --
FMSky (
talk) 22:21, 5 August 2022 (UTC)reply
sorry, got him confused with you. Same thing applies. You have violated two Wikipedia ordinances. You revert my edit one more time and you get reported. Consider this a final warning.
Valkyrie Red (
talk) 22:20, 6 August 2022 (UTC)reply
The purpose of this page is to disambiguate titles that might fall under the umbrella of "Greatest of All Time", so for example the albums with that acronym as the name, or the program with a near exact name. It is not a catch all for any individual who might be described as such, and disambiguation pages that can be described as descriptors do not list the individuals that would fall under the definition of the term unless it's part of their name in some way. -
Aoidh (
talk) 23:53, 6 August 2022 (UTC)reply
There is nothing indicating that that is the purpose of this page. Nothing. Not a single rule. Until you bring that up for citation you are violating
WP:OWN.
Valkyrie Red (
talk) 00:00, 7 August 2022 (UTC)reply
First, you need to actually read
WP:OWN. Reverting an edit is not evidence of that. Second, I think you should take the time to read
Wikipedia:Disambiguation, which explains the purpose of such pages. In particular,
WP:DABRELATED would apply here. -
Aoidh (
talk) 00:10, 7 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Reverting edits on the basis of overseeing a page to one's subjective specifications =
WP:OWN. Secondly,
WP:DABRELATED gives leeway for entries not verbatim to the policy in place as long as they relate to it ("if the term being disambiguated is actually described in the target article") which numerous secondhand sources will affirm for Jordan.
Valkyrie Red (
talk) 02:35, 7 August 2022 (UTC)reply
I'm done explaining to you the very simple reason why
WP:OWN doesn't apply and
you're not listening anyways, so we'll move past that unfounded accusation. You can't just say "
WP:DABRELATED gives leeway for entries..." when no, it doesn't. Nothing you said is reflected in that guideline in any way. The term Greatest of All Time is not described in any way in the Jordan article. This is not
List of basketball players considered the greatest of all time and is not a catchall for all (or any) individuals who happen to have been described as such, that is not the purpose of a disambiguation page. -
Aoidh (
talk) 02:42, 7 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Can we just lock this page?
This page has suffered multiple abuses of vandalism, should we not just lock this thread?
86.17.57.59 (
talk) 19:12, 18 December 2022 (UTC)reply
Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2023
@
Bolide154:Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a
"change X to Y" format and provide a
reliable source if appropriate.
For reference,
this was your orginal request.—
Bagumba (
talk) 12:42, 5 January 2023 (UTC)reply