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When did the Great Pyramid of Giza cease to be the tallest building in the world? According to the infobox on this page, it was surpassed by Lincoln Cathedral in 1311. But where does this idea come from? On the Lincoln Cathedral page, any existing sources are weak, typically either coming from news articles (leading me to fears of WP:CITOGENESIS) or crappy trade books. I previously raised this issue in a talk page thread back in November 2020, to no resolution. I added a dubious tag in December 2020 that Maruf Hossain removed the following April, though that editor offered no source or resolution. I have since added it back. Tkbrett (✉) 02:24, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
List_of_tallest_structures_built_before_the_20th_century gives an overview over the tallest buildings in history with their sizes and completion dates. -- Syzygy ( talk) 13:18, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
For those interested in the history of the Pyramids I might recommend this book which was published in 1698. It was written by Dutch traveller Cornelis de Bruyn which visited the Pyramids and wrote a whole chapter about them, describing them in detail. He even takes a guided tour inside the great pyramid carrying a blowtorch and described its central hallway and more.
I also read contrasting information regarding the casting, as at one point he writes:
I will only speak of the greatest, as well as the most remarkable, because the other two – although the boldest of the two does not have to yield much to the one considered the greatest (which indeed she is, although some seem to doubt it) – are enclosed and cannot be climbed upon, so there is not much to say about them.
Which would make one think the casting was largely intact. However in his sketch he draws 2 pyramids which both appear worn and their casting not intact:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by BoschA ( talk • contribs) 08:35, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Research has been undertaken that the Gt pyramid is a ram pump. Well two, one under the ground and one inside the pyramid. Scale mock-ups have been built proving the concept. No mention of this. 143.58.173.57 ( talk) 14:29, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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Theories about construction are that the stones blocks were lifted using canal locks rising up one side one tier of stones at a time. No mention of it. 143.58.173.57 ( talk) 14:32, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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Many of the theories are presented as fact. An example is that the pyramid was a tomb, when no such firm evidence exists. This needs rewriting to emphasize they are only theories (more like POV), not theories presented as fact. 143.58.173.57 ( talk) 10:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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When did the Great Pyramid of Giza cease to be the tallest building in the world? According to the infobox on this page, it was surpassed by Lincoln Cathedral in 1311. But where does this idea come from? On the Lincoln Cathedral page, any existing sources are weak, typically either coming from news articles (leading me to fears of WP:CITOGENESIS) or crappy trade books. I previously raised this issue in a talk page thread back in November 2020, to no resolution. I added a dubious tag in December 2020 that Maruf Hossain removed the following April, though that editor offered no source or resolution. I have since added it back. Tkbrett (✉) 02:24, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
List_of_tallest_structures_built_before_the_20th_century gives an overview over the tallest buildings in history with their sizes and completion dates. -- Syzygy ( talk) 13:18, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
For those interested in the history of the Pyramids I might recommend this book which was published in 1698. It was written by Dutch traveller Cornelis de Bruyn which visited the Pyramids and wrote a whole chapter about them, describing them in detail. He even takes a guided tour inside the great pyramid carrying a blowtorch and described its central hallway and more.
I also read contrasting information regarding the casting, as at one point he writes:
I will only speak of the greatest, as well as the most remarkable, because the other two – although the boldest of the two does not have to yield much to the one considered the greatest (which indeed she is, although some seem to doubt it) – are enclosed and cannot be climbed upon, so there is not much to say about them.
Which would make one think the casting was largely intact. However in his sketch he draws 2 pyramids which both appear worn and their casting not intact:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by BoschA ( talk • contribs) 08:35, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Research has been undertaken that the Gt pyramid is a ram pump. Well two, one under the ground and one inside the pyramid. Scale mock-ups have been built proving the concept. No mention of this. 143.58.173.57 ( talk) 14:29, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
Theories about construction are that the stones blocks were lifted using canal locks rising up one side one tier of stones at a time. No mention of it. 143.58.173.57 ( talk) 14:32, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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Many of the theories are presented as fact. An example is that the pyramid was a tomb, when no such firm evidence exists. This needs rewriting to emphasize they are only theories (more like POV), not theories presented as fact. 143.58.173.57 ( talk) 10:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)