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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 22:39, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
I don't understand the meaning of this hatnote:
According to Golden Shield Project, these terms do in fact refer to the same thing. If the intent is to indicate that we have separate articles for the term "Great Firewall" and for the Great Firewall itself, it would be better to write something like:
(or, better wording to that effect).
— Ruakh TALK 19:04, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
I think this article is questionable. It uses words like "suspicion" and "purportedly". All of its sources seem at least 10 years old.-- Jack Upland ( talk) 08:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
This article currently contains the phrase, "Given the gaps in , the central government of China relies heavily on its administrative body, the State Council, to determine what falls under the definitions... " I'm not 100% sure what was intended to come before that comma, but something seems to be missing.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikaselm ( talk • contribs) 18:16, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
User:Should use email you need to explain your objection to trade protectionism, which is sourced content. Jytdog ( talk) 00:39, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
User:Jytdog, the explanation of the removal was provided in the revision history [1]: "remove description of GFW as trade protectionism since it introduces a bigger topic and related issues. Just keep the facts about the creation of China's internet giants."
The previous version of the statement was: Opponents would describe this as a form of trade protectionism, whereas proponents would assert that this is part of "Internet sovereignty". [2] [3] [4]
But now I see that the "internet sovereignty" concept was moved to the "Origins of Chinese Internet law" section. So, as long as both concepts "trade protectionism" and "internet sovereignty" are included in the article, I'm ok with it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Should use email ( talk • contribs) 06:59, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
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Please add informations regarding this, thx. -- 218.68.229.85 ( talk) 07:07, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Merge everything under blocking methods header into three categorizes. 1. IP blocking (includes proxy distribution) 2. DNS poisoning 3. Deep Packet Inspection (includes active probing, quality of service, URL SNI blocking, and TCP reset)— Preceding unsigned comment added by BitBee555 ( talk • contribs) 02:47, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
I suggest there should be a history sub-header. Reading about the history of the Great Firewall would be pretty interesting and would really contribute to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.158.156.189 ( talk) 19:54, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
In the section Impact on people in China, the last sentence in the last paragraph says:
"She claims that, in the past 10 years, it has been increasingly difficult to access second opinions on events, meaning that students rarely have the opportunity to learn diverging viewpoints — only the correct thought of the Communist Party." [2] (FYI, this is a great source article to read!)
Even though the source material states this, saying "in the past 10 years" is ambiguous because this is dated material. The reference is already almost 2 years old. -- Ubh [ talk... contribs... 08:55, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 27 February 2022 and 5 May 2022. Further details are available
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23:11, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
In this article it says:
"On 26 January 2013, the GitHub SSL certificate was replaced with a self-signed certificate in China by the GFW.[57]"
[57]: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5124784
Looking further into the source, there is nothing conclusively to ascertain this as something done by GFW specifically or Chinese government. I would suggest removing the "by the GFW" or providing a better source.
In the article it says:
"The Tiananmen Square Massacre and other ethnic issues"
The full title of the referred article is "1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre", and other names are "Tiananmen Square protests", "June Fourth Incident", "Tiananmen Square Massacre", "'89 Democracy Movement", "Tiananmen Square Incident".
It seems rather arbitrary to use "Tiananmen Square Massacre" over any other ones. It is possible the referenced article has updated since this was written.
I would suggest rewording the sentence to "events of Tiananmen Square" in order to avoid any need for future updates in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.202.8.229 ( talk • contribs) 04:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 5 October 2018 and 12 December 2018. Further details are available
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 22:39, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
I don't understand the meaning of this hatnote:
According to Golden Shield Project, these terms do in fact refer to the same thing. If the intent is to indicate that we have separate articles for the term "Great Firewall" and for the Great Firewall itself, it would be better to write something like:
(or, better wording to that effect).
— Ruakh TALK 19:04, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
I think this article is questionable. It uses words like "suspicion" and "purportedly". All of its sources seem at least 10 years old.-- Jack Upland ( talk) 08:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
This article currently contains the phrase, "Given the gaps in , the central government of China relies heavily on its administrative body, the State Council, to determine what falls under the definitions... " I'm not 100% sure what was intended to come before that comma, but something seems to be missing.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikaselm ( talk • contribs) 18:16, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
User:Should use email you need to explain your objection to trade protectionism, which is sourced content. Jytdog ( talk) 00:39, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
User:Jytdog, the explanation of the removal was provided in the revision history [1]: "remove description of GFW as trade protectionism since it introduces a bigger topic and related issues. Just keep the facts about the creation of China's internet giants."
The previous version of the statement was: Opponents would describe this as a form of trade protectionism, whereas proponents would assert that this is part of "Internet sovereignty". [2] [3] [4]
But now I see that the "internet sovereignty" concept was moved to the "Origins of Chinese Internet law" section. So, as long as both concepts "trade protectionism" and "internet sovereignty" are included in the article, I'm ok with it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Should use email ( talk • contribs) 06:59, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
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Please add informations regarding this, thx. -- 218.68.229.85 ( talk) 07:07, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Merge everything under blocking methods header into three categorizes. 1. IP blocking (includes proxy distribution) 2. DNS poisoning 3. Deep Packet Inspection (includes active probing, quality of service, URL SNI blocking, and TCP reset)— Preceding unsigned comment added by BitBee555 ( talk • contribs) 02:47, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
I suggest there should be a history sub-header. Reading about the history of the Great Firewall would be pretty interesting and would really contribute to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.158.156.189 ( talk) 19:54, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
In the section Impact on people in China, the last sentence in the last paragraph says:
"She claims that, in the past 10 years, it has been increasingly difficult to access second opinions on events, meaning that students rarely have the opportunity to learn diverging viewpoints — only the correct thought of the Communist Party." [2] (FYI, this is a great source article to read!)
Even though the source material states this, saying "in the past 10 years" is ambiguous because this is dated material. The reference is already almost 2 years old. -- Ubh [ talk... contribs... 08:55, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 27 February 2022 and 5 May 2022. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Garrygan10086 (
article contribs).— Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Garrygan10086 (
talk •
contribs)
23:11, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
In this article it says:
"On 26 January 2013, the GitHub SSL certificate was replaced with a self-signed certificate in China by the GFW.[57]"
[57]: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5124784
Looking further into the source, there is nothing conclusively to ascertain this as something done by GFW specifically or Chinese government. I would suggest removing the "by the GFW" or providing a better source.
In the article it says:
"The Tiananmen Square Massacre and other ethnic issues"
The full title of the referred article is "1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre", and other names are "Tiananmen Square protests", "June Fourth Incident", "Tiananmen Square Massacre", "'89 Democracy Movement", "Tiananmen Square Incident".
It seems rather arbitrary to use "Tiananmen Square Massacre" over any other ones. It is possible the referenced article has updated since this was written.
I would suggest rewording the sentence to "events of Tiananmen Square" in order to avoid any need for future updates in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.202.8.229 ( talk • contribs) 04:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC)