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Heyo. Cleaned up the article to a significant degree. See my edit summary for more detail. Hope that helps you. -- Homfrog Talk 19:38, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
There seems to be some disagreement as to how to classify the characters. The editors 68.228.153.247 and 98.163.121.68 appear to disagree on this issue. To the best of my knowledge, Wikipedia does not have a set standard for character classification. Personally, I do not see the difference between "recurring" and "secondary" characters. Given the unclear criteria for a "secondary" character, I propose we only use "main", "minor", "recurring", and "antagonists". EvergreenFir ( talk) 21:46, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
For note, Waddles is not a main character. He does not appear in every episode, and when he does it's usually a cameo. EvergreenFir ( talk) 04:16, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes, but neither does Wendy and she is considered a main character. In fact, Waddles has appeared in one more episode than Wendy, and that's not even counting episodes where neither of them have lines. I couldn't care less whether Waddles was considered a main character or not, I'm just pointing it out. Although I do realize that Wendy definitely has more lines in her episodes than Waddles typically does. Gagaluv1 ( talk) 20:02, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Well, even though official character scripts and scenes show different production codes. We should list the prod. codes from outr most reliable source cocatalog.loc.gov CHall2002 ( talk) 01:46, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
According to
Template:Infobox television, the network field is for the original channel(s) or network(s) on which the show has appeared. Do not add foreign broadcasters here. Use links if articles are available.
To me, that means that whatever network airs premieres is what should be listed. In that case, Disney stopped airing them in 2014. We can get
WP:TV to weigh in on this if needed.
EvergreenFir
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re}} 20:20, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure "Dipper" actually is his name. It's a stupid name, but I thought it was clarified that he's saddled with it anyway. Someone should check this and edit his character description if so. It currently assumes it is a nickname. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1009:b04b:9838:a5b2:30e9:8d10:b4fc ( talk • contribs) 21:10, November 23, 2014 (UTC)
ImFreakshow is correct. I personally own a journal. BBStoneHobbyArt ( talk) 00:14, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Since the article List of Gravity Falls characters has been created with a copy of content from this article it is no longer necessary to give more than a bare description of the characters in this article. After a split it is expected that only a summary will remain behind and the current level of description is excessive as a summary. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 16:35, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Re: A Tale of Two Stans, ( Gravity Falls (season 2), No. 32 in series and No. 13 in season). Gravity Falls is revealed to be in Rogue Hill County, Oregon. Tjlynnjr ( talk) 18:39, 7 October 2015 (UTC) .
@ ChamithN: this is actually the name on the driver license of Soos. He is called Soos Ramirez on his Laser Tag license, but a driver license is a more legal document. Although his signature itself on the driver license is SOOS, the actual legal forenames is printed on it. In Special:Diff/696745908 you reverted my addition of this information and then gave me a warning for making unconstructive edits.
I think you ought to do more research before assuming bad faith as you did. I take it you did not actually watch (or at least remember) the episode in question, or you would know it was factual. I was correct to cite the episode as evidence of this information. Perhaps you should watch when Mabel and Dipper look through his wallet before surprising him for his birthday. -- 174.92.135.167 ( talk) 18:28, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
I had to remove Category:Gravity Falls from a few BLP articles such as Alex Hirsch as it caused them to be categorized as Disney shows. I'm not sure what's the best category structure to avoid this, if such categories are appropriate for BLPs at all. nyuszika7h ( talk) 18:48, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
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Why isn't this show considered a horror? It's really dark, scary, violent, bloody, disturbing and has loads of evil Satanic imagery. It's a cartoon but cartoons can be horrors can't they? 217.43.250.66 ( talk) 17:05, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Gravity Falls has a strange horror aspect that goes over kids heads. BBStoneHobbyArt ( talk) 00:12, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
To me, it's horror. I despise this show. -- O-M- GOSH! 02:10, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Should this be considered an "LGBT-related animation" in the infobox? Clearly, the series finale revealed two major characters being in a gay relationship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:A000:EAC2:FE00:D817:936C:E3E6:7C77 ( talk) 23:53, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
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As you may know, Gravity Falls aired Weirdmageddon 3 as a 45-minute special, but that episode is divided into two different ones on reruns, with an extra episode "Weirdamgeddon 4: Somewhere the Woods" (according to different EPGs like DirecTV, Dish or Cox, among others) being broadcast as the other half of the original special. However, in the original airing of the series finale, it was shown the episode's first half end credits, along with its own cryptogram, and then skipped into the beginning of the other half left to air. This shows that the 45-min special was in fact two episodes produced separately and joined only for the finale. Shall we change the number of episodes in the "infobox television" template from 40 to 41? There's no need to add the episode on the episodes' list article. -- Bankster ( talk) 20:43, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Hey, thank you for reading! I'll try to make this huge topic quick: assuming Linguistic Prescriptivism to be a social construct and a form of oppression (which is the consensus in Linguistics), I think we can agree that Wiki pages should aspire to language that is most likely to provide the reader with the correct information, whether explicitly (e.g. "Chris Cornell was a singer...") or implicitly (e.g. "Valhalla is the mythological..." - note that here "is" does not confer existence, therefore the argument that "is" vs. "was" is mainly or solely used to infer existence is intuitive but empirically incorrect). I'm aware of the policy on using "is" for fiction but I would like to propose that policy that is implemented blindly is mere bureaucracy and oppression; any policy, like any assertion of authority, must be patently justifiable if we accept Hume. Now, since this show is officially cancelled [1], a regular reader coming across the words "Gravity Falls is..." is extremely likely to infer that the show is still ongoing. I suggest correcting that by using the word that infers it's ended, such as is, which is the relevant information for recent television works. If not, I'm very interested in arguments pro language policing, so feel free to express yourself. Thanks to any reader, Vivaldimort ( talk) 00:19, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
The first two thirds of the Production section reads like a generic description of every writers' room in the history of American television. And it's written as if things like "a room reserved for writers" were unfamiliar concepts that had to be spelled out, which hasn't been true since… maybe the Dick Van Dyke Show in 1961?
I have no doubt that it's accurate, and it has a reliable source (an AV Club interview with the showrunner), but that still doesn't mean it needs to be in the article. (I'm sure I could, e.g., find reliable sources to write two paragraphs of generic text about how Rough Draft animates the show the same as every other animated show on TV, but I doubt anyone would want that.) -- 157.131.170.189 ( talk) 06:14, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
I really think that Bill Cipher should have his own page on Wikipedia. Not only was he the true main antagonist of the show, but he's also grown beyond that and into kind of an icon and spread off into several other shows such as Rick and Morty, Ducktales, The Owl House and probably others that I don't know about.
I really hope that somebody will take note of this and do the right thing.
( 161.65.235.200 ( talk) 01:29, 25 August 2020 (UTC))
I removed those as number of names is too long for the infobox and it is more appropriate to use the actual episode credits for this information. Also the credits listed were wrong as a number of the credited directors and writers were of teams, not individuals, and this was not reflected correctly in the infobox list. Anyone in the episode list credits with two names separated by an "&" is a team and should always be credited as a team including the "&" whenever listed. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 17:53, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
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I noticed on the page that Dipper and Mabel's Current Age isn't shown. If you don't know what I mean, Dipper and Mabel turned 13 at the end of the show after defeating Bill Cipher. Shouldn't that be included? 124.195.222.169 ( talk) 08:08, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
The Cartoon has some pretty disturbing moments but should it be considered a horror series? Hamster Gomez ( talk) 21:12, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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Heyo. Cleaned up the article to a significant degree. See my edit summary for more detail. Hope that helps you. -- Homfrog Talk 19:38, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
There seems to be some disagreement as to how to classify the characters. The editors 68.228.153.247 and 98.163.121.68 appear to disagree on this issue. To the best of my knowledge, Wikipedia does not have a set standard for character classification. Personally, I do not see the difference between "recurring" and "secondary" characters. Given the unclear criteria for a "secondary" character, I propose we only use "main", "minor", "recurring", and "antagonists". EvergreenFir ( talk) 21:46, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
For note, Waddles is not a main character. He does not appear in every episode, and when he does it's usually a cameo. EvergreenFir ( talk) 04:16, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes, but neither does Wendy and she is considered a main character. In fact, Waddles has appeared in one more episode than Wendy, and that's not even counting episodes where neither of them have lines. I couldn't care less whether Waddles was considered a main character or not, I'm just pointing it out. Although I do realize that Wendy definitely has more lines in her episodes than Waddles typically does. Gagaluv1 ( talk) 20:02, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Well, even though official character scripts and scenes show different production codes. We should list the prod. codes from outr most reliable source cocatalog.loc.gov CHall2002 ( talk) 01:46, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
According to
Template:Infobox television, the network field is for the original channel(s) or network(s) on which the show has appeared. Do not add foreign broadcasters here. Use links if articles are available.
To me, that means that whatever network airs premieres is what should be listed. In that case, Disney stopped airing them in 2014. We can get
WP:TV to weigh in on this if needed.
EvergreenFir
(talk) Please {{
re}} 20:20, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure "Dipper" actually is his name. It's a stupid name, but I thought it was clarified that he's saddled with it anyway. Someone should check this and edit his character description if so. It currently assumes it is a nickname. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1009:b04b:9838:a5b2:30e9:8d10:b4fc ( talk • contribs) 21:10, November 23, 2014 (UTC)
ImFreakshow is correct. I personally own a journal. BBStoneHobbyArt ( talk) 00:14, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Since the article List of Gravity Falls characters has been created with a copy of content from this article it is no longer necessary to give more than a bare description of the characters in this article. After a split it is expected that only a summary will remain behind and the current level of description is excessive as a summary. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 16:35, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Re: A Tale of Two Stans, ( Gravity Falls (season 2), No. 32 in series and No. 13 in season). Gravity Falls is revealed to be in Rogue Hill County, Oregon. Tjlynnjr ( talk) 18:39, 7 October 2015 (UTC) .
@ ChamithN: this is actually the name on the driver license of Soos. He is called Soos Ramirez on his Laser Tag license, but a driver license is a more legal document. Although his signature itself on the driver license is SOOS, the actual legal forenames is printed on it. In Special:Diff/696745908 you reverted my addition of this information and then gave me a warning for making unconstructive edits.
I think you ought to do more research before assuming bad faith as you did. I take it you did not actually watch (or at least remember) the episode in question, or you would know it was factual. I was correct to cite the episode as evidence of this information. Perhaps you should watch when Mabel and Dipper look through his wallet before surprising him for his birthday. -- 174.92.135.167 ( talk) 18:28, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
I had to remove Category:Gravity Falls from a few BLP articles such as Alex Hirsch as it caused them to be categorized as Disney shows. I'm not sure what's the best category structure to avoid this, if such categories are appropriate for BLPs at all. nyuszika7h ( talk) 18:48, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
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Why isn't this show considered a horror? It's really dark, scary, violent, bloody, disturbing and has loads of evil Satanic imagery. It's a cartoon but cartoons can be horrors can't they? 217.43.250.66 ( talk) 17:05, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Gravity Falls has a strange horror aspect that goes over kids heads. BBStoneHobbyArt ( talk) 00:12, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
To me, it's horror. I despise this show. -- O-M- GOSH! 02:10, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Should this be considered an "LGBT-related animation" in the infobox? Clearly, the series finale revealed two major characters being in a gay relationship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:A000:EAC2:FE00:D817:936C:E3E6:7C77 ( talk) 23:53, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
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As you may know, Gravity Falls aired Weirdmageddon 3 as a 45-minute special, but that episode is divided into two different ones on reruns, with an extra episode "Weirdamgeddon 4: Somewhere the Woods" (according to different EPGs like DirecTV, Dish or Cox, among others) being broadcast as the other half of the original special. However, in the original airing of the series finale, it was shown the episode's first half end credits, along with its own cryptogram, and then skipped into the beginning of the other half left to air. This shows that the 45-min special was in fact two episodes produced separately and joined only for the finale. Shall we change the number of episodes in the "infobox television" template from 40 to 41? There's no need to add the episode on the episodes' list article. -- Bankster ( talk) 20:43, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Hey, thank you for reading! I'll try to make this huge topic quick: assuming Linguistic Prescriptivism to be a social construct and a form of oppression (which is the consensus in Linguistics), I think we can agree that Wiki pages should aspire to language that is most likely to provide the reader with the correct information, whether explicitly (e.g. "Chris Cornell was a singer...") or implicitly (e.g. "Valhalla is the mythological..." - note that here "is" does not confer existence, therefore the argument that "is" vs. "was" is mainly or solely used to infer existence is intuitive but empirically incorrect). I'm aware of the policy on using "is" for fiction but I would like to propose that policy that is implemented blindly is mere bureaucracy and oppression; any policy, like any assertion of authority, must be patently justifiable if we accept Hume. Now, since this show is officially cancelled [1], a regular reader coming across the words "Gravity Falls is..." is extremely likely to infer that the show is still ongoing. I suggest correcting that by using the word that infers it's ended, such as is, which is the relevant information for recent television works. If not, I'm very interested in arguments pro language policing, so feel free to express yourself. Thanks to any reader, Vivaldimort ( talk) 00:19, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
The first two thirds of the Production section reads like a generic description of every writers' room in the history of American television. And it's written as if things like "a room reserved for writers" were unfamiliar concepts that had to be spelled out, which hasn't been true since… maybe the Dick Van Dyke Show in 1961?
I have no doubt that it's accurate, and it has a reliable source (an AV Club interview with the showrunner), but that still doesn't mean it needs to be in the article. (I'm sure I could, e.g., find reliable sources to write two paragraphs of generic text about how Rough Draft animates the show the same as every other animated show on TV, but I doubt anyone would want that.) -- 157.131.170.189 ( talk) 06:14, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
I really think that Bill Cipher should have his own page on Wikipedia. Not only was he the true main antagonist of the show, but he's also grown beyond that and into kind of an icon and spread off into several other shows such as Rick and Morty, Ducktales, The Owl House and probably others that I don't know about.
I really hope that somebody will take note of this and do the right thing.
( 161.65.235.200 ( talk) 01:29, 25 August 2020 (UTC))
I removed those as number of names is too long for the infobox and it is more appropriate to use the actual episode credits for this information. Also the credits listed were wrong as a number of the credited directors and writers were of teams, not individuals, and this was not reflected correctly in the infobox list. Anyone in the episode list credits with two names separated by an "&" is a team and should always be credited as a team including the "&" whenever listed. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 17:53, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
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I noticed on the page that Dipper and Mabel's Current Age isn't shown. If you don't know what I mean, Dipper and Mabel turned 13 at the end of the show after defeating Bill Cipher. Shouldn't that be included? 124.195.222.169 ( talk) 08:08, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
The Cartoon has some pretty disturbing moments but should it be considered a horror series? Hamster Gomez ( talk) 21:12, 3 August 2023 (UTC)